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PM to give 8pm address tonight (Sunday), no new restrictions expected

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bagofconkers · 12/12/2021 17:03

"As pressure from virus rises, PM will give national address at 8pm tonight, updating the booster programme - sounds like this will NOT include new restrictions"

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RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 13:22

That noise you hear is the clown car crashing.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/12/2021 13:34

And they wonder why some people are losing faith in everything ?

The underlying message seems to be if we misunderstand it's our fault, every time.

Was there any need for that address at all?

Political distractions?

I give up.

jgw1 · 13/12/2021 13:35

@RedToothBrush

Oh look. Goal Post Shift. Day 1.

Lewis Goodall @lewis_goodall
The PM’s words last night: “Everyone eligible aged 18 and over in England will have the chance to get their booster before the New Year.”

Vicki Young @BBCVickiYoung
Dept of Health sources clarify that the promise on boosters is to “offer” them by end of December not “deliver” them. Confusion stemmed from PM saying last night that eligible adults in England “will have the chance to get their booster before the New Year” #Booster #vaccine

Red Knight @redknighttrader
He also said in the previous sentence that There was a previous ‘offer’ of a jab by the end of January & he was bringing that forward by one month

Vicki Young @BBCVickiYoung
Yes - the statement was contradictory

Its like the test counting nonsense.

They might have the idea of 300,034 974,000* vaccines a day, but just wishing it isn't the same as jabs in arms.

And yet some posters don't think Boris is laughing at us.

*this is in fact the number of tests done as stated by a Secretary of State.

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2021 13:35

I think just get a booster was the main message

And expect a big wave in terms of numbers

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 13:38

@MarshaBradyo

I think just get a booster was the main message

And expect a big wave in terms of numbers

No it wasn't. It was everyone by 1st Jan. Thats why it was a big deal.

He'd already said everyone should get a booster asap and that this was because of omicron at the last presser.

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2021 13:42

Yes and it’s been brought forward by a month

On a simple level - it’s this is more urgent and we have more capacity

I’m ok with that

Maybe others will find issue but I have reached information level as it is tbh

Simple is good to me as long as it increases number going for it

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2021 13:46

Starmer will likely say same tonight for those who can’t deal with PM

It’s a bit yeh ok but

Fine

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 13:58

@MarshaBradyo

Starmer will likely say same tonight for those who can’t deal with PM

It’s a bit yeh ok but

Fine

You mean, he's doing a party political broadcast cos Johnson did one and since he's doing well in the polls he's opportunitising the chance to also look 'statesmansly'.

The pair of them piss me off.

What Johnson said was either dishonest or incompetent. And Starmer is making a show he doesn't need to, just to score points.

If they were on the same page, do a joint broadcast in the national interest...

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 14:00

@MarshaBradyo

Yes and it’s been brought forward by a month

On a simple level - it’s this is more urgent and we have more capacity

I’m ok with that

Maybe others will find issue but I have reached information level as it is tbh

Simple is good to me as long as it increases number going for it

I give it til Wednesday at the latest before lots of people start getting really pissed off by the size of walk in queues, the website crashing, no bookings available before Jan and there being no lateral flows available cos the NHS have run out.

I think genuine anger is not far off now.

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2021 14:09

I went to a big site last week and it was only just had enough people getting them and no wait.

Seemed a shame to have such a big site at below capacity.

Probably picked up now though

Justcannotbearsed · 13/12/2021 14:26

So Health have had to issue a clarification that everyone booked for booster rather than everyone jabbed by New Year. And GPS didn’t know about it till the announcement last night.

AnyFucker · 13/12/2021 14:40

Gaslighting bullshit

Starmer can fuck off too, though

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 14:41

@MarshaBradyo

I went to a big site last week and it was only just had enough people getting them and no wait.

Seemed a shame to have such a big site at below capacity.

Probably picked up now though

Two hour plus queues at walk in in Manchester today.
Sunflowersinthewind · 13/12/2021 15:06

Oh good, lovely long queues with lots of people with a more transmissible variant. What could go wrong

the80sweregreat · 13/12/2021 15:09

That queue for boosters in Hungerford on bbc rolling news atm looks grim.
It's not moving at all :(

Tabbacus · 13/12/2021 15:11

@Sunflowersinthewind

Oh good, lovely long queues with lots of people with a more transmissible variant. What could go wrong
Quite. The mind boggles that some are queueing for hours in the rain when the website will be updated for bookings when the logistics have been sorted out, probably be appointments released soon.
jgw1 · 13/12/2021 15:15

Quite. The mind boggles that some are queueing for hours in the rain when the website will be updated for bookings when the logistics have been sorted out, probably be appointments released soon.

If I were planning to launch a big event, challenge or whatever I think I might have worked out the logistics beforehand.

DateLoaf · 13/12/2021 15:15

It’s great that the booster programme is being beefed up. I can’t forgive and forget about the PM partying this time last year and the contempt that shows for the rules he made for the rest of the country though.

Tabbacus · 13/12/2021 15:16

@jgw1

Quite. The mind boggles that some are queueing for hours in the rain when the website will be updated for bookings when the logistics have been sorted out, probably be appointments released soon.

If I were planning to launch a big event, challenge or whatever I think I might have worked out the logistics beforehand.

Well yes, most of us would have, but as usual, they didn't.
jgw1 · 13/12/2021 15:18

@DateLoaf

It’s great that the booster programme is being beefed up. I can’t forgive and forget about the PM partying this time last year and the contempt that shows for the rules he made for the rest of the country though.
Would the booster programme had needed boosting if we hadn't have had all that nonsense about freedom day and a Prime Minister more intent on being a quiz master than a Prime Minister?
SickAndTiredAgain · 13/12/2021 15:20

I give it til Wednesday at the latest before lots of people start getting really pissed off by the size of walk in queues, the website crashing, no bookings available before Jan and there being no lateral flows available cos the NHS have run out.

I agree. They announce that everyone should be offered it by Jan, and make ominous statements about cancer appointments being cancelled if we don’t do it. And say vaccinated contacts need to do an LFT every day.

And then say, oh sorry did you misunderstand? You’ll just be able to book it by the 31st of Jan, probably because that’s how long it will take us to get the website back up. And by the way, there are no LFTs left.

It was obvious yesterday it wasn’t achievable by the end of the month, why not give a big but still achievable target and honest statements about the potential effect of not getting it done.

He said there may be cancer appointments cancelled if this isn’t achieved. If what isn’t achieved exactly? If everyone isn’t booked for an appointment by 31st, even if their actual appointment isn’t until February? Just let it ominously hang there as a possibility and then blame us for not getting the boosters fast enough if it happens, while not actually defining “fast enough”.

Am I right in thinking they have no stated goal for a set number of booster vaccinations by a set date? That’s one way to avoid failing to meet a target.
Because the target to offer it to everyone by the end of Dec was met as soon as he said “everyone can now book or go to a walk in.” That surely constitutes the offer, so they can all pat themselves on the back now. Anyone not yet boosted, it’s on you, the government have offered it, they’ve done their part, why haven’t you done yours.

That was a bit of a rant sorry, looks like I don’t need until Wednesday to get pissed off.

Sunflowersinthewind · 13/12/2021 15:23

All he has done is organised a nice nationwide panicked super spreader event, which no doubt we will all get blamed for

Booklover3 · 13/12/2021 15:24

It’s all a load of crap… Boris wants to appear like he’s doing something. That’s what last nights broadcast was about. When the shit hits the fan it’ll be the NHS’s and our fault. Not that fact that his government couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

And starmer doing another broadcast… ffs

All it’s achieved is to panic the public… but panic creates compliance.

Booklover3 · 13/12/2021 15:24

I am going to put my head down, get on with it and wait for the storm to pass.

the80sweregreat · 13/12/2021 15:25

As long as we can buy our loo rolls and pasta , I guess there will always be a glimmer of a silver lining to all the doom and gloom and queuing for a booster :(