Unvacinnated family

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My SIL and family (5 kids over 18) and partner have not had the vaccine and have no intention to. My eldest nephew's partner has which caused huge rifts within the family. Anyway it is my MIL's 70th birthday soon and we would like to organise a family get together everyone else in the family is double jabbed and no one is happy inviting 7 unvacinnated people to a gathering. MIL wants to totally exclude them - it is her party so her choice really. They live in an area where it is rife at the moment. You would like to think that everyone else has been double jabbed so we shouldn't get it too badly if we do pick it up. WWYD???

Your MIL doesn't want them there. It's her party, therefore they aren't invited.

Her party her rules.

Bit sad really. Why doesn’t she just have everyone test if she’s so worried about it? Vaccinated people could be carrying it too.

It is her party, her choice. She could always re evaluate if they have all recently recovered from covid and have some natural immunity. As vaccinated people can all catch covid and pass it on you might all consider doing lateral flow tests before the party.

She’s rights.
People unvaccinated by choice have to accept that their actions have consequences.

As others have said, it’s her party so it’s up to her but I find it incredibly sad that she feels the need to divide the family like this. As a mother, I can’t contemplate why she is thinking like that.

@Savannahnanana

As others have said, it’s her party so it’s up to her but I find it incredibly sad that she feels the need to divide the family like this. As a mother, I can’t contemplate why she is thinking like that.

Safety concerns?

Sensible MIL, your idiot family need to realise that decisions have consequences

You can still pass it on and get it when you’re vaccinated.

I think it's quite sad but it's her party.

It's just ridiculous, I'm double jabbed but would never leave someone out because they do not want a jab. I think it's actually shocking behaviour from most.

@PrettyBlunt

I think it's quite sad but it's her party.

It's just ridiculous, I'm double jabbed but would never leave someone out because they do not want a jab. I think it's actually shocking behaviour from most.

That's a really manipulative attitude to have towards people that are scared for their health. They are being "left out" due to their active choice to be more of a risk to others. It's not that sad, if they wanted to go they could get the jab.

It's the organiser who will be blamed for not inviting xyz. If you don't mind falling out with then, go ahead. If you do, tell MIL to plan her own gathering then she can invite and exclude who she likes.

Personally if it was me as host, arranging a party, I wouldn't be willing to exclude close family on the basis of their vaccination status so would politely step back from the organisation.

By I agree with MIL. Imagine how the family will feel if any of the unvaccinated ones get covid from the gathering and die. I know it's their choicest even so I wouldn't want them there.

I don't believe it would make much difference to transmission, would it? Unless they were heavily viral loaded and therefore would be ill and not there? It'll affect them being unvaccinated more than you.

Surely it’s your MIL’s choice.

I'm double jabbed and am on day 18 of feeling like utter crap. Mild includes anything not requiring hospital admission - you can be very poorly with mild covid.

Your MIL sounds like a delight .. any vaccinated person there can give her covid just as much as the unvaccinated!!

Your eldest nephew’s partner had the vaccine and that caused huge rifts? It sounds as if they are willing to have family rifts over vaccination status.

I am not sure what you are asking really. It’s MIL’s party so her choice of who is invited.

I think MIL is being selfish expecting SIL and kids to vaccinate for her benefit, when they have made the decision they don't want the vaccine. If she's scared of contacting covid at the party then the best thing would be to cancel it. All of the vaccinated people there are potentially carriers.

If you exclude part of the family now its probably safe to say you've excluded them forever it would be hard reconnect later. I certainly wouldn't want to reconnect at all if my family cut me off for excerising my right to choose if I had a medical procedure or not

@bumbleymummy

Bit sad really. Why doesn’t she just have everyone test if she’s so worried about it? Vaccinated people could be carrying it too.

Exactly this, get your free test kit from boots.

Your MIL sounds like a delight .. any vaccinated person there can give her covid just as much as the unvaccinated

Well, no.

Vaccinated people are far less likely to get it and far less likely to pass it on.

The risk is greatly reduced.

I dont want to be around unvaccinated people unless they have a good reason for not being vaccinated and it's pretty clear this group dont. If they have fallen done the conspiracy rabbit hole then they'll be determined to bore everyone silly while possibly infecting them with covid. There is a much lower risk of the vaccinated either getting covid or passing it on.

MIL maybe realises that if they are invited others may choose to stay away.

Think your MIL is being very sensible.