Will 21st June go ahead?

[Mrgrinch]

I desperately need to know. Of course we won't until they tell us, but what are your thoughts?

Very mixed opinions in the media. Lots of advice to delay but Boris saying there's nothing he can see that would make us deviate from the roadmap.

The released figures today are bollocks. They are a culmination of the past few days due to bank holiday delays. As of today there are under 800 covid patients in hospital in England and in Bolton the number of admissions has dropped to 39 from 49 last week. As hard as they try to keep the scare tactics going and carry out mass testing at who knows what potentially increased pcr cycle rate, the data just isn’t playing ball. Doesn’t seem to make a difference though, plenty of people still buy their bullshit and on our imprisonment continues

Hospitalisation one to watch and not just numbers but capacity - as stays can be shorter

Well I didn't think Tuesday's 0 deaths meant that's it, no more Covid deaths. One swallow does not a summer make. It goes both ways.

@MarshaBradyo

Hospitalisation one to watch and not just numbers but capacity - as stays can be shorter

Yes, this is what's important.

I take you it you have seen the evidence on delta variant increasing chances of hospitalization.

It appears you actually want to see great swathes of people dying before you believe. Sad state of affairs.

Cases over 5,000 is bad :(

Yes certainly seen it. It's a maybe. See my earlier post re Kent variant.

Or are you seeing information that says it's definite?

@SonnetForSpring

I take you it you have seen the evidence on delta variant increasing chances of hospitalization.

Link to evidence?

Isn’t this what we are waiting to get hence the uncertainty

@SonnetForSpring

It appears you actually want to see great swathes of people dying before you believe. Sad state of affairs.

What a stupid comment

There are links on the other thread to PHE data

How about this?:-

www.reuters.com/world/uk/delta-variant-now-dominant-uk-may-increase-risk-hospitalisation-2021-06-03/

I think this may be blurred.

As I said previously it takes time to work out:-

www.google.com/amp/s/www.cityam.com/kent-covid-variant-no-more-deadly-than-original-coronavirus-strain/amp/

I'm sure people remember the news earlier in the year saying Kent variant was likely to be more deadly?

Why is it a stupid comment? People will still say oh we don't believe that...scientists aren't always right. Let's actually see the hospitalizations increase. Then they will say oh but increased hospitalization doesn't mean increased deaths, let's wait to see. By then it's too bloody late!!! Its exponential.

It doesn't take time. They know. What do you know?

Because you said it appears we want people dead. Not only stupid but beyond offensive.

Link to where it's definite?

I didn't say you wanted people dead. I said some will only believe when large numbers of people are dying.

That says may be increased risk of hospitalisation doesn’t it?

So they are still getting data on this

I just posted the PHE/SAGE summary!

@SonnetForSpring

It appears you actually want to see great swathes of people dying before you believe. Sad state of affairs.

Trying to backtrack?

Sonnet What do you want to do atm anyway?

What level of restrictions?