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Anyone not having vaccine , why aren't you?

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LazyDaisy10 · 20/05/2021 09:37

Is anyone not having the vaccine and what are your reasons? Im in my 30s I'm not having the vaccine because I'm worried about the long term effects that might not come to light for a few years. Why are you not having it?
If you think the vaccine is amazing and anyone not having it is selfish you probably don't need to comment.

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Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:03

[quote Dustyboots]www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-disastrous-vaccine-propaganda-1170264/[/quote]
So Eric Clapton does exist?

Dustyboots · 24/05/2021 19:05

Clearly - yes.

But to the vaccine damage deniers it would be very convenient if he didn't.

speckledostrichegg · 24/05/2021 19:06

@Dustyboots

There is no Maddie in the KidCove trial in the US who is now paralysed after vaccination.

I suppose there's also no Eric Clapton.

eh?
Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:07

@Dustyboots

Clearly - yes.

But to the vaccine damage deniers it would be very convenient if he didn't.

Why? He’s entitled to his opinion.

Maddie doesn’t exist, she’s fictional.

speckledostrichegg · 24/05/2021 19:09

@Dustyboots

Clearly - yes.

But to the vaccine damage deniers it would be very convenient if he didn't.

oh i see

I don't think anyone is discounting Eric Clapton's side effects after the jab- it's been reported everywhere.

That kind of proves my point - @Malahaha was claiming a girl had been paralysed in the moderna kidcove trial. There's absolute no verified evidence she exists or this happens - just a video on bitchute and an article in rumble.

Dustyboots · 24/05/2021 19:09

Why is Eric Clapton entitled to his opinion - when posters here on MN with similar opinions aren't?

speckledostrichegg · 24/05/2021 19:12

@Dustyboots

Why is Eric Clapton entitled to his opinion - when posters here on MN with similar opinions aren't?
@dustyboots

what do you mean? claiming a girl was paralysed without any evidence isn't an opinion, it's just anti-vax misinformation

Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:12

@Dustyboots

Why is Eric Clapton entitled to his opinion - when posters here on MN with similar opinions aren't?
Like who? Eric Clapton is well entitled to his opinion but he’s not entitled to have it unchallenged. Especially if what he’s sharing is either completely made up or totally inaccurate.
Roonerspismed · 24/05/2021 19:21

Why doesn’t Maddie exist? If she doesn’t exist, why the desperation to remove her?

Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:23

@Roonerspismed

Why doesn’t Maddie exist? If she doesn’t exist, why the desperation to remove her?
There’s no evidence she exists, it’s a video of a woman talking about a kid being paralysed after taking part in a vaccine trial with no proof. If she exists, where’s the proof?
Roonerspismed · 24/05/2021 19:38

That twitter feed is remarkable. Clearly all those posters are liars

What is amazing is that any death within a month of a covid test is covid but any illness or death following a vaccine is a coincidence

Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:42

@Roonerspismed

That twitter feed is remarkable. Clearly all those posters are liars

What is amazing is that any death within a month of a covid test is covid but any illness or death following a vaccine is a coincidence

Have we moved on from mythical Maddie now?
CantGetNoSleep73 · 24/05/2021 19:45

@Roonerspismed exactly what I've been saying re deaths.

On the Twitter feed are links to the gov website which has all the yellow card notices - the moderna has the least but I suppose that may be because it's not been used as much?

So many and yet I guess so many won't have bothered? My dh hasn't over his hives as he said it's already on there as a side effect so what's the point and no one cares... 🤦‍♀️

Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 19:47

[quote CantGetNoSleep73]@Roonerspismed exactly what I've been saying re deaths.

On the Twitter feed are links to the gov website which has all the yellow card notices - the moderna has the least but I suppose that may be because it's not been used as much?

So many and yet I guess so many won't have bothered? My dh hasn't over his hives as he said it's already on there as a side effect so what's the point and no one cares... 🤦‍♀️
[/quote]
That’s exactly the reason they’re having trouble with the data - your husband should report any side effects, they’re asking him to.

Dustyboots · 24/05/2021 21:14

What is amazing is that any death within a month of a covid test is covid but any illness or death following a vaccine is a coincidence

This exactly. We now have a new set of deniers. Vaccine damage/death deniers.

Pumperthepumper · 24/05/2021 21:22

@Dustyboots

What is amazing is that any death within a month of a covid test is covid but any illness or death following a vaccine is a coincidence

This exactly. We now have a new set of deniers. Vaccine damage/death deniers.

Who’s denying vaccine damage?
greengrass09 · 25/05/2021 02:18

@SqueakyCleanBean

Very good call, *@LazyDaisy10*. Healthy people in their 30s shouldn't be getting this, IMHO. I'm older than you, so the risk-benefit calculations are different. But I think your decision is spot-on.

If this vaccine is as good as they say it is, we oldies will be protected by it. The last thing I'd want is for younger people to gamble their health on a product that's still in trials till 2023.

Stay strong, OP.

Well said
Torvean · 25/05/2021 04:57

@Roonerspismed

That twitter feed is remarkable. Clearly all those posters are liars

What is amazing is that any death within a month of a covid test is covid but any illness or death following a vaccine is a coincidence

This is just not true. If someone was diagnosed with Covid and dies within 28 days of it then it is mentioned on the death certificate. Just like a person's other serious illnesses are put on a death certificate. It does not mean that it is listed as the cause of death.

As for whoever thinks now the over 70s are vaccinated noone else needs to. That idea is totally ludicrous.

We need as many ppl vaccinated as possible. There are ppl who are not able to get the vaccine due to having a suppressed immune system , or due to severe allergies. They deserve to be protected.

The only way for things to get back to normal is to get case numbers down.
Less cases = less risk of a mutation = less chance of restrictions.

There have been only 42 deaths from AZ in the UK. There have been 4.46 million diagnosed cases of Covid and 128 000 deaths in the UK. And who knows exactly how many ppl have long Covid.

Then look again at which option is more risky.

Malahaha · 25/05/2021 05:59

@Roonerspismed

Why doesn’t Maddie exist? If she doesn’t exist, why the desperation to remove her?
Maddie's story was posted on Telegram, with photos of her. The poster said she was her cousin, and that the parents put into the trial. It's pretty clear that if the parents put her into the trial they are a) very much pro-covid-jab and b) must be feeling terrible guilt now, if this is true, and would try to hide the vaccination link. They would not want the story to spread because it reflects badly on them. And no, MSM would never, ever pick it up, just as they didn't pick up the story of Luc Montagnier, the French Nobel Prize winner (for his research on the AIDS virus) who spoke out very strongly against the vaccination rollout. That video was The MSM won't tell you anything negative about the jab. Nothing. They will take down articles and videos that cast any shadow whatsoever on the message that you are supposed to hear, which is "we must all be vaccinated and the unvaxed are your enemy and the unvaxed are now responsible for restrictions and new waves and the unvaxed will kill the vaxed."

That's what's happening in a nutshell.
There are more stories similar to Maddies; miscarriages and stillbirths after jabs, young people dying who would not have died if they'd caught the disease. And I've just seen a DM headline that says that there are "dozens" of reports of heart inflammation in teenagers after the jab, being invesitgated by the CDC.

And in the meantime, the Lancet has published a peer-reviewed article showing that the actual absolute risk reduction (ARR) after a covid vaccine is negligible:

Pfizer .0.8%
J&J 1.2%
Moderna 1.2%
AZ 1.3%
That's how great your protection is.
I'm not going to post a link; it's on Telegram and it's not easy for me to get a link from T which is on my phone on to my laptop. I'm not a tech person.

Look, I don't mind if people get the jab and I've never advised anyone not to do so, except in the case of children; what I object to is being called an idiot, a pro-Trump right wing nutter, a crazy conspiracy theorist, a tin-foil nutcase, and all the other very rude epithets we are being called; above all, and most common, selfish, a word that has been used multiple times on this thread alone.

The bottom line is that NOBODY knows for sure what effect the jabs will have a few years down the line. So it's better to be silent and stop with the insults. It's been predicted here that I will go to hell. Well, it's a good thing, isn't it, that I don't believe in hell, but I do believe in the Christian virtues of loving your neighbour. The prevalent movement is hateful and intolerant to the extreme of those who made the decision not to be jabbed. We are being made into pariahs, with people calling for us to be shut out of life.

Why are you so afraid of us, if your jab works? So many WHYs.

Malahaha · 25/05/2021 06:05

^ sorry, posted too soon, and didn't finish this sentence: "That video (Luc Montagnier) was taken down from YouTube; in it he said that the Covid vaccine is creating the variants" Professor Luc Montagnier and that epidemiologists know but are "silent" about the phenomenon."

Too much silence. We are muzzled, quite literally with our masks.

Backofbeyond50 · 25/05/2021 06:11

Why doesn’t Maddie exist? If she doesn’t exist, why the desperation to remove her?

Well they are obviously going yo want to remove her if she doesn't exist at it would be pure vaccine misinformation and scare mongering.

If she exists they would have surely halted the trial. Did they? Dies anyone know? The details will also be in the trial report. I guess we have to wait for that.
When googling I found the You Tue video zbd a report from the NY Times on terns taking part in the trial written by Maddie Mcgarvey. Coincidence! Maybe!

I have had both vaccines BTW but have reservations about vaccinations for my teens.

Backofbeyond50 · 25/05/2021 06:12

Great. Apologies for typos auto correct

Backofbeyond50 · 25/05/2021 06:12

Bloody hell. Now it changes grr to great.

Backofbeyond50 · 25/05/2021 06:22

Yet on this screenshot it was pfizzer

Anyone not having vaccine , why aren't you?
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