The Four Tests are failed aren't they?

[PrincessNutNuts]

1. The vaccine programme continues to go to plan

Is it going to plan?

The plan was that the vaccine was rolled out evenly across the country by descending age groups with a 12 week gap between doses.

Now they're diverting vaccine supplies to do surge vaxxing of everyone over 18 in areas which have a higher prevalence of variant B1.617.2 (Indian) and the 12 week gap has gone.

Things have gone off plan a bit haven't they?

2. Evidence shows vaccines are reducing deaths and numbers requiring hospital treatment.

Does it? What evidence do we have that they do that in cases of variant B1.617.2? (Indian)

How do we know that where cases of variant B1.617.2 rise, hospitalisations and deaths don't?

Maybe there's just a time lag as there always was.

Hospital admissions in Bolton are back to March levels.

3. Infection rates do not risk a surge in hospital admissions.

Infection rates in Bolton have gone up 28% in 48 hours.

Sewage analysis indicates that vaccine surge and testing surge is now needed in Bedford, Burnley, Hounslow, Kirklees, Leicester, and North Tyneside as well as Glasgow and Moray.

4. New variants do not change the risk of lifting restrictions.

B1.617.2 (Indian) has spread to 86 locations in the U.K. in about a month.

Scientists believe it is between 50% and 60% more transmissible than the Kent variant that has kept us in restrictions for 8 months and still killed 80,000 people.

What do you think?

Are the four tests for opening up met?

God I knew it would be princess doom and gloom as well!

@OliveTree75

God I knew it would be princess doom and gloom as well!

Me too. You seriously need to get out more OP. Constantly obsessing about what might happen is far from healthy.

[quote Unsure33]@PrincessNutNuts

Or they are just vaccinating quicker or working more hours or getting more staff ?

Your post does not make sense .[/quote]
A colleague had her second jab today - they are vaccinating 7 times more people a day than when she had her first. (At that particular hub)

@PurpleDaisies

Now they're diverting vaccine supplies to do surge vaxxing of everyone over 18 in areas which have a higher prevalence of variant B1.617.2 (Indian) and the 12 week gap has gone.

They aren’t doing this. They’re accelerating second doses for over fifties and really pushing to get people who are currently eligible to get vaccinated in those areas of concern.

Yep. I'm a volunteer vaccine marshall (not in an area of concern for the Indian variant btw). My shift today was much busier than last week, with lots of people saying they had only rebooked their appointment a day or two ago to bring it forward. We were having to check they hadn't had their first dose less than 8 weeks ago so could see there were lots of people turning up who had their first dose in early or mid March.

@KurtWilde

I agree Bluntness. I've noticed it quite a bit on some of these threads, not just this particular poster but a few others that pop up on every thread like this quoting modelling and speculation almost as fact, as what will definitely come to pass. And they're positively gleeful about it.

I can only think their situation of wfh and comfortable living (or the like) is pushing them to wish for it to be extended, perhaps?

There are a few posters on this board who are extremely politically motivated. I really do think they were terribly disappointed that the vaccine roll-out has been a roaring success, and really missed being able to continue saying how Britain was the 'laughing stock of the world' and how unnamed 'other countries' were doing it so much better.

That's why they're back with a vengeance at the news of this latest scariant. They would actually prefer for lockdown to continue, with all the economic and other distress that would cause, rather than have to admit that the government (and I'm no fan) got something right. They'll deny it, but it's blatantly obvious that it's true.

Endlessly nut nut. Beyond any discussion, just bonkers.

@tedsletterofthelaw

What would you like to see happen OP? What would your plan be?

Princess doom and gloom doesn’t do solutions!

Seriously op, there are books to read and telly to watch, you can even go to the pub now.

Give the doom mongering a rest!

1. The vaccine programme continues to go to plan

YES

1. Evidence shows vaccines are reducing deaths and numbers requiring hospital treatment.

YES

1. Infection rates do not risk a surge in hospital admissions.

YES

1. New variants do not change the risk of lifting restrictions.

MAYBE / MAYBE NOT

Op these are the statistics, you can see everything is on plan and everything is declining.

Oh what a surprise. Another doom and gloom thread. Going well though isn’t it?

As soon as I clicked on this I guessed who the op would be!

I don't think the four tests have failed, but this thread certainly has...

@OliveTree75

I don't think the four tests have failed, but this thread certainly has...

Sorry to ask a dumb question but I’m genuinely intrigued- sewerage testing?? Why? How?

I don’t think the OP comes across as at all anxious on her hundreds of posts. She clearly knows how to press buttons. Maybe it’s a political thing, or she’s just a massive WUM. And must keep a huge database of any negative corona related news so it can be quickly uploaded here ad nauseam.

Not this again. It’s like Groundhog Day. Could it not be continued on the last doom thread of the OPs?
We’re going to need Bingo cards for these threads. 🙄

princessnutnuts threads make me nostalgic for climbdad (remember him?)

Never thought I’d say that in my lifetime 😵

@TheKeatingFive

princessnutnuts threads make me nostalgic for climbdad (remember him?)

Never thought I’d say that in my lifetime 😵

I don’t remember him, what was his terribly hidden agenda?

I see Princess Carrie started another thread linking to an article in The S*n from nearly a month ago.

Somebody really needs a hobby.

He was a regular poster in the early days of Covid. Countless, awful doom laden threads, focused on possible threats to children in particular. There was an obvious agenda around keeping schools closed.

@TheKeatingFive

He was a regular poster in the early days of Covid. Countless, awful doom laden threads, focused on possible threats to children in particular. There was an obvious agenda around keeping schools closed.

Urgh. I had a few months off MN last year because of all the Covid craziness. Who would have thought a year on and it’s still going strong.

Climbdad though had a purpose - he had petitions and facebook groups and all of the information was desgined to make people wary of schools reopening. He wanted masks etc. Whether you agreed with him or not his agenda was clear.

It isnt here there is no clear agenda apart from a clear hatred of the government

FFS some people are so desperate for us to stay locked up forever that they’ll do anything to argue against the restrictions lifting.

@DelBocaVista

Are you quite well OP?

No they clearly are not. There's some mental health issues going on here. It's very sad actually

@UmbilicusProfundus

I don’t think the OP comes across as at all anxious on her hundreds of posts. She clearly knows how to press buttons. Maybe it’s a political thing, or she’s just a massive WUM. And must keep a huge database of any negative corona related news so it can be quickly uploaded here ad nauseam.

Russian bot... Dun dun dunnnn!