worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 18

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

Yes @theflushedzebra, my DH London office is closed due to connection with a confirmed case. Just announced this morning. V relieved as he commutes up there from Cornwall once a fortnight or so.

I WFH / self-employed consultant.

And my DS is home as his school is closed (special school / vulnerable kids / connection with a case). just my DD still out there in the wide world.

@Kuponut If I was you I would tell a lecturer. Because of the placements if nothing else.

Interesting that in China, according to a Chinese friend its called the Wuhan Pneumonia. Not Corona virus, not covid 19.

Freiiihhhhtfully racist doncha know?

*PHE NOT Peak

I'm not sure who the guy is from the department of culture is who has been doing the rounds is but he's really getting on my nerves! Definitely from the 'do nothing and wash your hands brigade' 🙄

Agreed. He look dead in the eyes. Slight glint when spoke of being at the rugby with the pm at Twickenham.....Pop along darling.

Wish my husbands employer would do that @theflushedzebra! He's still commuting on the tube every day. International trips for meetings etc were cancelled a few weeks back at least.

Sorry that sounds ridiculously garbled

Private company - financial sector - investments/trading - he does the IT. I'll have to ask him what all the traders are going to do?!

Just had a text from family in France.
Apparently it is recommended on the news there to peel all fruit and vegetables because people with coronavirus might have touched them before you bought them.
I am sceptical that peeling will help, since you'll probably just end up contaminating your hands, knives, peeler etc anyway.

I went a bit ott with dettol wipes last night on the Sainsbury's delivery

Mumbled to driver that they were for work, which to be fair, dh will be taking some in to his office and I will be too as I'm a teacher.

We've not manage to get anything till now. Of course, then dettol will announce they don't work...

@Number12

As I said turnip!!

You can wash veg in milton.

My mum works at Southampton hospital. Shes 5hrs from me so I worry.

That should have been :

My Union (Unison) has advised we should ask our employer (large public organisation) about any steps to take with regard to colleagues travelling to and from northern Italy

Nothing the union can or will do, and they advise against taking any action without management agreement.

The union support the employer position, and say all the employer can do is to follow PHE advice, which is to self isolate if you've been to one of 10 Italian towns.

If employees choose to leave work, including work from home, because the person sat next to them just returned from Northern Italy, they will be seen as at fault Not the colleague who returned from Italy.

Re incubation, there is a schoolboy who has just tested positive after isolating for two weeks, going back into school at the end of last week, and then falling ill. So I am not sure that I believe two weeks is enough.

Helpful @magicrainbowbeans
Thank you for this perspective on colleague position within employment with Unison.

My husband's a postman, no working from home for him.
He has some sanitizer and is using that every 30 mins but apart from that there is nothing he can do.

Can you have your pp deleted?

It does read very differently, having just read the latest one which is really clear.

Very that it's in favour of the traveller to italy!

Sorry that was to @magicrainbowbeans

We have to be in lectures with someone who just got back from northern Italy - no support from uni at all... just suck it up.

Unison are generally a bit useless. No way will they ever back up an employee on this.

If the recommendation is to close schools I imagine the information will be shared when children are at home (so next weekend?) to prevent panicked parents going into school.

I suppose Italy will leap frog South Korea with case numbers today? When did South Korea close their schools?

There is a new medical paper out that estimates that 35-78% of cases in two separate places, Singapore and Tianjin (China), were the result of pre-symptomatic transmission.

www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20031815v1

So the U.K. authorities refusing to test contacts of confirmed cases who were exposed before the case was symptomatic is garbage.

I really don’t understand where they got that info from. China reported very early on that they were seeing symptomatic transmission.

Alone is he wearing gloves? And cleaning his 'sign for' screen with alcohol wipes after each customer use?

That would break the infection touch transmission cycle.