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Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists

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mids2019 · Yesterday 06:25

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.OrlaNdo memorial

The government's decision to sanction Israel, a democratic ally in the ME, surely is a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate on our city streets. If the government is willing to distance itself from Israel won't this be seen as further motivation for the radical Islmist left to continue their campaigns in the UK. It's a shameful moment and it will take a lot to rebuild relations with Israel.

Chief Rabbi and Tory leader react furiously to Labour sanctions

Britain's Chief Rabbi said a trade ban on Israeli settlements in the West Bank was 'truly a dark day for British Jews'.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.html

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SpottyPyjama · Yesterday 06:33

The government is not siding with islamists, that is a ridiculous statement to make.

It is taking a stance against genocidal maniacs on behalf of innocent children and families. It has taken too long for this government to acknowledge Israel’s brutal wrongdoings and a few sanctions doesn’t go anywhere near far enough.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Yesterday 06:35

The government represent the nation. Most Brits are aghast at the Palestinian genocide. It's over time for the government to take action.

FinchiePink · Yesterday 06:52

Israel hasn't been sanctioned.

Illegal West Bank settlements have been sanctioned.

JohnofWessex · Yesterday 06:53

Ed Milliband believes as I do that Israel has a death wish and is trying to stop the country killing itself.

That and the fact that its behaviour is immoral by any recognised standards.

Smokeywater · Yesterday 06:54

No - I think it’s about time someone said that British Jews are not Netanyahu’s army and leave them alone

LlynTegid · Yesterday 06:57

I do not agree that it is siding with Islamists.

I do recognise that anti-semitism is increasing in the UK, especially it seems in universities. No one should assume that a person is Jewish supports the actions of the Netanyahu government in Israel, any more than presuming a U.S citizen supports Trump. The two should not be conflated.

JadeHare · Yesterday 06:59

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Nesbi · Yesterday 07:05

I disagree, and I think it is dangerous to suggest that the evils of anti-semitism either here or abroad should restrict the government from taking a position on the actions of Israel.

Conflating the two is what leads idiots into believing that the actions of Israel must therefore reflect on, or are somehow the responsibility of British Jews who are not themselves Israeli.

These are two separate things.

it is also a false binary to suggest that condemning the actions of one party means you must support the actions of another.

JohnofWessex · Yesterday 07:23

I suggest that for some it has been 'convenient' to conflate opposition to the actions of the state of Israel with antisemitism and sadly the Jewish community are now suffering as a result.

Is there really anyone who can justify the behaviour of Jewish Settlers in the West Bank as both Moral and Legal, if so please do so.

Boolabus · Yesterday 08:00

@mids2019 could you break down your claim that the government are siding with islamists through their sanctions on the illegal settlements in the West Bank? It's a bold claim to suggest the UK government are siding with extremists so I'm interested in hearing your evidence.

JohnofWessex · Yesterday 11:15

I suggest that supporting the Government of Israel is supporting Extremism.

Babyboomtastic · Yesterday 11:29

I don't care if someone is our closest ally, if they commit crimes against humanity, we should not stand behind them.

Frankly I don't want Israel as an ally any more because I don't want us as a country to be associated with them or their actions as things stand.

My views on this have nothing to do with Judaism. I don't support any extremest regime as an ally, whether that's Afghanistan, North Korea, Israel, Iran. Region is irrelevant.

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 13:24

OP Liz Truss was not Britain (although arguably she did less harm to Britain than Netanyahu has done to Israel) and Netanyahu's government is not Israel, let alone the wider Jewish diaspora.

It's a shameful moment and it will take a lot to rebuild relations with Israel.

What relations? Netanyahu does what he wants whether in Iran or the illegal settlements.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · Yesterday 13:53

What’s your evidence OP that the sanctions are “a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate” and not a legitimate response to Israel’s Illegal actions in line with the views of the majority of the British people?

BerthaPotts · Yesterday 16:12

The Israeli government have brought this on themselves by failing to act against settler terrorism and tacitly aiding and abetting their terrorism. Even the US is starting to have a hard time defending it.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · Yesterday 19:09

Latest YouGov poll - 52% of Britons approve of the government's decision to ban the import of goods from contested Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists
backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

iwishihadaname · Yesterday 19:31

Israel government are telling Argentina that they should get falklands Israel government is not to be trusted and are no longer a friend of the uk

LandLaser · Yesterday 19:44

backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

What, all of them?

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 19:47

I was very pleased to hear Ed Milliband's announcement. It's about time.

StopMeStopMeStopMe · Yesterday 19:51

backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 19:22

it has greatly saddened me that the British Jewish community hasn’t welcomed the government’s stance

I’ve seen quite a few tweets in support of the sanctions from British jews on Twitter, including some Jewish organisations.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/09/senior-uk-rabbis-come-out-in-support-of-sanctions-on-israeli-settlements

Senior UK rabbis come out in support of sanctions on Israeli settlements

Spiritual leaders stress diversity of views within Jewish community and warn against inaction on settler violence

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/09/senior-uk-rabbis-come-out-in-support-of-sanctions-on-israeli-settlements

imanastronaut · Yesterday 19:51

Says who?

You cannot predict this

StopMeStopMeStopMe · Yesterday 19:55

iwishihadaname · Yesterday 19:31

Israel government are telling Argentina that they should get falklands Israel government is not to be trusted and are no longer a friend of the uk

Exactly. It’s absolutely bizarre that at the same time as Israel is trying to provoke a standoff over the Falklands, everyone is telling us the UK won’t survive if the Israeli’s withdraw defence intelligence liaison. It’s all so confused.

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · Yesterday 20:43

Given what the US and allies (including us) did in Afghanistan after a handful of attacks, I can't see how we can criticize Israel for reacting like this to Gaza after not the worst atrocity they committed, but the years of attacks beforehand.

I really don't like Netenyahu. But even he isn't on the same level of evil as Hamas. Not that the leaders of Hamas are in Gaza any more of course - they provoked a predictable reaction then scarpered, leaving the poorer people to suffer the consequences.

I wish Israel would stop now - in fact I wish they'd stopped a long time ago. But the heaviest blame for the suffering in Gaza lies with Hamas.

Our government should be siding with the only country in the region which is a genuine democracy and gives its citizens decent rights, not with a group of people so violent that their Muslim allies and neighbours try to avoid letting them in.

SulkingInTheCatio · Yesterday 20:55

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 19:47

I was very pleased to hear Ed Milliband's announcement. It's about time.

I thought he was very coherent and correct in what he said in a bbc interview this morning. Ultimately the settlements break international law. It wouldn’t be right to sit back and watch that happen.

UK Jews and let’s face it even a lot of Israeli Jews are not responsible for this. But Israel needs to be held accountable for facilitating and encouraging it. There will be no chance of peace and a two state solution if this continues.

Ed Milliband was quite clear that this is nothing to do with U.K. Jewish people and he believes this stance doesn’t increase a threat to them.

Theres a lot of things which the U.K. has done which could be said to increase the general risk to U.K. citizens but it has still been the right thing to do…..supporting Ukraine for one.

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