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EspressoWarrior · 08/09/2026 21:54

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:28

The value of british exports to israel is something like 3.5 billion, something like 17,000 Palestinians work for west bank israelis and they are well paid. This is going to have a negative impact on Palestinians and if the Israelis choose to they can look for alternatives to uk exports which is bad for us.

It’s a bloody stupid thing to do, haven’t even touched on intelligence co-operation.

Exactly. My first thought was to wonder how many Palestinian people’s jobs will be affected by this performative politics.

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 21:56

EspressoWarrior · 08/09/2026 21:54

Exactly. My first thought was to wonder how many Palestinian people’s jobs will be affected by this performative politics.

Maybe if they were left to their own devices and their own land, they could make a living.

Squeezingwildoranges · 08/09/2026 21:57

EspressoWarrior · 08/09/2026 21:54

Exactly. My first thought was to wonder how many Palestinian people’s jobs will be affected by this performative politics.

Wow. Sanction me and I won't feed my slaves so who are you punishing. That's reasonable.

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:04

The "1967 borders" were not borders. They were armistice lines: where the fighting stopped in 1948-49. They were not borders BECAUSE the Arabs refused to recognize Israel, refused to recognize an end to conflict, refused.

Britain was originally 1 of only two nations (the other was Pakistan) that recognized Jordan's illegal occupation and annexation of Judea and Samaria.

Oh what interesting and fun things you find once you look at the facts.

Britain pulling out of the British mandate in a way that would leave the Jews in a possibly deadly position is what stated most this mess. When you factor in all the other stuff British politicians have done that has been a hindrance to peace for both Arabs and Jews it is mind boggling.

DeterminedRat · 08/09/2026 22:04

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 21:41

Ok so consulate is closed, British will expelled from an aid centre, British support in training PA is over and a bunch of MP’s will no longer be able to travel there.

Good work government. Great job.

So we just ignore the 'terrorists'(as Miliband called them) let them continue to kill innocent civillians, let them steal homes and then advertise them for sale across the UK, let them keep ethnically cleansing villages of Palestinian people then selling the fruit of their labour to shops across the UK but it's OK because we can give aid to the beaten and the bereaved and the displaced?

Or do you at least try and stop the terrorists so that Palestinians may finally have self determination of their own and don't need to be picked up off the ground after being beaten to a pulp by an Israeli extremist?

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:06

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 21:56

Maybe if they were left to their own devices and their own land, they could make a living.

That was the part of the idea about Gaza in 2005. That worked out really well I must say.

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:08

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:06

That was the part of the idea about Gaza in 2005. That worked out really well I must say.

Might have. If Israel hadn’t decided to bomb the fuck out of them again.

EspressoWarrior · 08/09/2026 22:09

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 21:56

Maybe if they were left to their own devices and their own land, they could make a living.

During the 2005 disengagement, when Israeli settlers left/were removed, the agricultural infrastructure they left behind (mainly vast acres of commercial greenhouses) was stripped and looted by Palestinians. What makes you think that similar wouldn’t occur again?

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 08/09/2026 22:11

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:28

The value of british exports to israel is something like 3.5 billion, something like 17,000 Palestinians work for west bank israelis and they are well paid. This is going to have a negative impact on Palestinians and if the Israelis choose to they can look for alternatives to uk exports which is bad for us.

It’s a bloody stupid thing to do, haven’t even touched on intelligence co-operation.

This

bigboykitty · 08/09/2026 22:14

A tiny step, long overdue. Starmer has a lot to answer for.

Dexternight · 08/09/2026 22:15

Did the UK a favour by closing. 👋

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:16

Why did Israel decide to bomb their airport and tear up the runway? Only allowing Palestinians to enter and leave their own land through Israel? Do you know any Palestinians who are only allowed to enter their homes through Israel? Do you know the shit they have to go through? I do.

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:20

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:08

Might have. If Israel hadn’t decided to bomb the fuck out of them again.

It fell apart in less than a year once the Jews left and they could have self determination. Apparently they wanted something different. Go figure that.

Nobody randomly decided to bomb gaza. Stuff happened and people didn't like that stuff happening.

Nothing is ever one sided with this conflict. Though social media and various news outlets or politicians will tell you otherwise.

Peace will not happen anytime soon.

The above are just a few basic facts worth recognising if you want to be taken seriously in any debate or conversation regarding this subject.

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:22

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AquamarinePearlGold · 08/09/2026 22:22

DeterminedRat · 08/09/2026 16:50

When you are pissing off illegal occupiers who are facilitating ethnic cleansing you know you are doing something right 👏👏👏

Yup. Well done Ed! 👏👏👏

Squeezingwildoranges · 08/09/2026 22:23

EspressoWarrior · 08/09/2026 22:09

During the 2005 disengagement, when Israeli settlers left/were removed, the agricultural infrastructure they left behind (mainly vast acres of commercial greenhouses) was stripped and looted by Palestinians. What makes you think that similar wouldn’t occur again?

Disengagement? What a joke. An open air prison with a land, sea and air blockade. Israel has wiped out all agriculture in Gaza. Poisoned the ground and even worse, poisoned the ground in Lebanon too.

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:28

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:16

Why did Israel decide to bomb their airport and tear up the runway? Only allowing Palestinians to enter and leave their own land through Israel? Do you know any Palestinians who are only allowed to enter their homes through Israel? Do you know the shit they have to go through? I do.

Actually think you need to read up and learn the answers to those questions if you don't already know.

Israel didn't just one day go I know what lets restrict the movement of Gazens just for a laugh or to be mean.

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:29

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Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:31

Squeezingwildoranges · 08/09/2026 22:23

Disengagement? What a joke. An open air prison with a land, sea and air blockade. Israel has wiped out all agriculture in Gaza. Poisoned the ground and even worse, poisoned the ground in Lebanon too.

What are you talking about? The poster is clearly stating how Gaza was left 20 years ago in the hope of Gazen independence and self determination leading to peace.

50Balesofgrey · 08/09/2026 22:31

freshsunday · 08/09/2026 17:26

A ‘minor local issue’. How cruel. Palestinians have been terrorised by these crazed settlers for decades. Only a few days ago, two children were buried who were murdered by them.
The injustice is beyond belief but as long as you have your safe & settled life all is well I suppose.

You do know what the Hamas terrorists did to Israeli people?

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:33

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DeterminedRat · 08/09/2026 22:34

Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:20

It fell apart in less than a year once the Jews left and they could have self determination. Apparently they wanted something different. Go figure that.

Nobody randomly decided to bomb gaza. Stuff happened and people didn't like that stuff happening.

Nothing is ever one sided with this conflict. Though social media and various news outlets or politicians will tell you otherwise.

Peace will not happen anytime soon.

The above are just a few basic facts worth recognising if you want to be taken seriously in any debate or conversation regarding this subject.

Literally none of this gives Israeli terrorists the right to do what they are doing across the West Bank to innocent people. As Miliband said it's state supported ethnic cleansing of an illegally occupied population, do you think there is ever an excuse for that? What is the 'other side' to beating old ladies as they harvest their olives and burning out homes with families inside?

JadeHare · 08/09/2026 22:40

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Neverstopwondering · 08/09/2026 22:42

DeterminedRat · 08/09/2026 22:34

Literally none of this gives Israeli terrorists the right to do what they are doing across the West Bank to innocent people. As Miliband said it's state supported ethnic cleansing of an illegally occupied population, do you think there is ever an excuse for that? What is the 'other side' to beating old ladies as they harvest their olives and burning out homes with families inside?

I don't agree with settle violence or their behaviour in general. It put back any chance of peace even further than it is now.

Nothing Red Ed says interests me. He has already been undermined quite rightly about this from his department. Reassurances that this is just a hollow gesture and won't affect much have gone out to those concerned.

The whole thing is about trying to win back voters from the Green party and only a little about anyone in the Middle East. Saying that British politicians have been a hindrance to middle Eastern peace for a long time and at some point this has to stop.

likelysuspect · 08/09/2026 22:42

mids2019 · 08/09/2026 17:05

Bloody hell...the British government falling behind Hamas terrorists on this. Absolutely shocking. Well there goes an ally in the middle East all to appease the Palestinian hate mobs.....

Yes this.

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