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IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

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Kakeandkake · 25/08/2025 11:51

It is so sickening that they continue to act with such impunity. The bombed the hospital killing four journalists and THEN struck a second time killing the rescue workers who were trying to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured.

The genocide continues in plain sight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

An injured emergency worker is led away by two other emergency workers. There is rubble and wreckage behind them. He is badly hurt.

Four journalists among 15 killed in Israeli strike on hospital, Gaza officials say

The strikes on Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis are said to have killed journalists working for international media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

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TooBigForMyBoots · 25/08/2025 20:20

There is no justification for this @Kakeandkake.

The IDF are not defending Israel.
They're exterminating Palestinians.

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 20:21

Israel deeply regrets the tragic accident. Israel appreciates the work of journalists, medical teams and all civilians,” he said. “The army is conducting a thorough investigation.”
Netanyahu

Bullshit.

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/08/2025 20:23

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 20:21

Israel deeply regrets the tragic accident. Israel appreciates the work of journalists, medical teams and all civilians,” he said. “The army is conducting a thorough investigation.”
Netanyahu

Bullshit.

Liars!

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/08/2025 20:43

A couple of things I've learnt about Israeli security forces:

  1. They are top class. They booby trapped Hezbollah pagers in Lebonan. They assassinated scientists and military personnel in Iran. They're really good at what they do.
  2. Israel has been arming jihadis inside Gaza. Including those responsible for 7/10.

This hospital was bombed to kill medics, journalists and other civilians. It was an indiscriminate attack not a targeted one.

It's another Israeli, IDF war crime.
"I was following orders" is not a defence.

PinkBobby · 25/08/2025 21:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/08/2025 20:43

A couple of things I've learnt about Israeli security forces:

  1. They are top class. They booby trapped Hezbollah pagers in Lebonan. They assassinated scientists and military personnel in Iran. They're really good at what they do.
  2. Israel has been arming jihadis inside Gaza. Including those responsible for 7/10.

This hospital was bombed to kill medics, journalists and other civilians. It was an indiscriminate attack not a targeted one.

It's another Israeli, IDF war crime.
"I was following orders" is not a defence.

On your first point, I did have a moment earlier when I questioned how ‘good’ the IDF are because this seemed like such an absolute f up following the journalists being killed a few weeks ago. Then I remembered the pager attacks and the photo of the drone attack through a bedroom wall whilst the target slept and I realised how good they are at targeting specific people when they want to.

On point two, do you have sources for this? Only because Ive seen evidence the Israeli government armed groups in Gaza post 7/10 to challenge Hamas (maybe some of those guys are looting aid trucks and not just Hamas!) but I haven’t seen anything about armed groups pre 7/10.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 25/08/2025 21:14

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 20:21

Israel deeply regrets the tragic accident. Israel appreciates the work of journalists, medical teams and all civilians,” he said. “The army is conducting a thorough investigation.”
Netanyahu

Bullshit.

No doubt they genuinely do deeply regret that it was filmed and broadcast live ...

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 21:19

SomeWomanSomewhere · 25/08/2025 21:14

No doubt they genuinely do deeply regret that it was filmed and broadcast live ...

If you were to track it, I would imagine these "uh oh" statements correspond with incidents being filmed .

Imagine what we are not seeing.

PinkBobby · 25/08/2025 21:41

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 19:08

@PinkBobby
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1959920695351112035

This is the video.

Infiltrate/invade is a very unusual to use with this incident. Seems to be they are walking into empty space waving flags.
I'll leave people make of it what they will. I don't see any date stamps but obviously there must be.

The most frightening video to me was the group of civil defence targeted and killed .

Thank you - I think I’ll wait for better verification. Only because that account has videos of people spitting on Palestinian flags and throwing items at peaceful protesters - not my go to for actual news!

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/08/2025 21:47

PinkBobby · 25/08/2025 21:06

On your first point, I did have a moment earlier when I questioned how ‘good’ the IDF are because this seemed like such an absolute f up following the journalists being killed a few weeks ago. Then I remembered the pager attacks and the photo of the drone attack through a bedroom wall whilst the target slept and I realised how good they are at targeting specific people when they want to.

On point two, do you have sources for this? Only because Ive seen evidence the Israeli government armed groups in Gaza post 7/10 to challenge Hamas (maybe some of those guys are looting aid trucks and not just Hamas!) but I haven’t seen anything about armed groups pre 7/10.

www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-arming-criminal-gangs-in-gaza-former-defense-minister/

GladioliGreen · 25/08/2025 22:12

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 20:21

Israel deeply regrets the tragic accident. Israel appreciates the work of journalists, medical teams and all civilians,” he said. “The army is conducting a thorough investigation.”
Netanyahu

Bullshit.

It reeks of we are really sorry we got caught on camera, again.

SaltAirAndTheRust · 25/08/2025 22:34

It’s just unbelievable at this point.

Journalists. Doctors. Aid workers. Paramedics. They’re killing the people who have a front row seat to the genocide, so that the truth doesn’t come out

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 25/08/2025 22:46

PinkBobby · 25/08/2025 21:06

On your first point, I did have a moment earlier when I questioned how ‘good’ the IDF are because this seemed like such an absolute f up following the journalists being killed a few weeks ago. Then I remembered the pager attacks and the photo of the drone attack through a bedroom wall whilst the target slept and I realised how good they are at targeting specific people when they want to.

On point two, do you have sources for this? Only because Ive seen evidence the Israeli government armed groups in Gaza post 7/10 to challenge Hamas (maybe some of those guys are looting aid trucks and not just Hamas!) but I haven’t seen anything about armed groups pre 7/10.

Yes, Israel propped up Hamas before 7/10.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-reportedly-warned-twice-that-qatari-cash-was-funding-hamas-military-wing

Now he's directly financing and resourcing rival armed gangs. If Gaza survives, in 25 years time, this will likely be the new Hamas, full of angry young men, with nothing to live for, who lost much of their family in this war.

Martymcfly24 · 25/08/2025 22:56

PinkBobby · 25/08/2025 21:41

Thank you - I think I’ll wait for better verification. Only because that account has videos of people spitting on Palestinian flags and throwing items at peaceful protesters - not my go to for actual news!

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Oh I agree completely @PinkBobby . My point was this was the video that a pp used to discredit the journalist based on an account like the one shown. From viewing the video I could see words like invaded etc when it was two men strolling through a silent area were once again completely hyperbolic.

The account is completely and utterly biased.

FalseFlag · 26/08/2025 10:24

The problem is that Israel doesn’t see any journalists being killed, doesn’t see any innocent civilians being targeted, doesn’t see any women and children in hospitals being bombed and doesn’t see 60.000 people left dead because all Israel sees is themselves as victims. Nobody believes you anymore Israel. We see you.

FalseFlag · 26/08/2025 10:31

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SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/08/2025 18:36

Oh, well, seems they are now saying this was necessary because of a camera. Which ... the camera was Hamas, of course (it wasn't; it belonged to a Reuters correspondent from what I understand - but even if: they killed 20 people for ... a camera!):

https://x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545?t=in44EofBk9J-tUFBdQi2TA&s=19

SaltAirAndTheRust · 26/08/2025 19:01

SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/08/2025 18:36

Oh, well, seems they are now saying this was necessary because of a camera. Which ... the camera was Hamas, of course (it wasn't; it belonged to a Reuters correspondent from what I understand - but even if: they killed 20 people for ... a camera!):

https://x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545?t=in44EofBk9J-tUFBdQi2TA&s=19

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It’s actually just embarrassing for them at this point.

Martymcfly24 · 26/08/2025 19:44

SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/08/2025 18:36

Oh, well, seems they are now saying this was necessary because of a camera. Which ... the camera was Hamas, of course (it wasn't; it belonged to a Reuters correspondent from what I understand - but even if: they killed 20 people for ... a camera!):

https://x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545?t=in44EofBk9J-tUFBdQi2TA&s=19

Edited

Bullshit.

Why did they order foreign doctors to leave before the strike?
Why was there a double tap strike (illegal under the Geneva Convention) if it was just to hit a camera surely the first one would have taken it out?
Why was it a tragic mistake yesterday but today there's a reason and the case is closed.

BelleHathor · 26/08/2025 21:39

Martymcfly24 · 26/08/2025 19:44

Bullshit.

Why did they order foreign doctors to leave before the strike?
Why was there a double tap strike (illegal under the Geneva Convention) if it was just to hit a camera surely the first one would have taken it out?
Why was it a tragic mistake yesterday but today there's a reason and the case is closed.

The IDF is spinning (yet another) tale and again! T@hey insult anyone with an ounce of intelligence.

Why? Likely because Trump said he is "not happy about it" during a press conference at the White House on Monday.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-865283

The Israeli government has got to keep Trump on side. Trump is currently losing significant support from his base due to his unfulfilled promises (including unlimited support of Israel). So it's all about self preservation......

Donald Trump 'not happy' about IDF hospital strike in Gaza | The Jerusalem Post

Trump repeated his claim that there are "probably just under 20" hostages left alive in the Gaza Strip during a press conference at the White House on Monday.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-865283

Martymcfly24 · 26/08/2025 21:50

BelleHathor · 26/08/2025 21:39

The IDF is spinning (yet another) tale and again! T@hey insult anyone with an ounce of intelligence.

Why? Likely because Trump said he is "not happy about it" during a press conference at the White House on Monday.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-865283

The Israeli government has got to keep Trump on side. Trump is currently losing significant support from his base due to his unfulfilled promises (including unlimited support of Israel). So it's all about self preservation......

I saw that. Very obvious he didn't know.

Support for Israels military action in the US has fallen to 32% and Trump is all about the numbers.

GladioliGreen · 26/08/2025 22:00

SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/08/2025 18:36

Oh, well, seems they are now saying this was necessary because of a camera. Which ... the camera was Hamas, of course (it wasn't; it belonged to a Reuters correspondent from what I understand - but even if: they killed 20 people for ... a camera!):

https://x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545?t=in44EofBk9J-tUFBdQi2TA&s=19

Edited

You can't be too careful with those Hamas cameras. They might catch you bombing a hospital.

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 08:36

SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/08/2025 18:36

Oh, well, seems they are now saying this was necessary because of a camera. Which ... the camera was Hamas, of course (it wasn't; it belonged to a Reuters correspondent from what I understand - but even if: they killed 20 people for ... a camera!):

https://x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545?t=in44EofBk9J-tUFBdQi2TA&s=19

Edited

It wasn't just "because of a camera" though was it?

From the source you linked, it was a camera that was positioned by Hamas in the hospital that was being used to observe the activity of IDF troops, in order to direct terrorist activity against them.

The statement from the IDF then provides names and photos of 6 Hamas terrorists who were eliminated during the strike on Nasser hospital, including one who took part in the October 7th massacre.

More details given in this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5399464-idf-widens-nasser-hospital-probe-amid-questions-over-who-approved-tank-fire

Gloriia · 27/08/2025 08:44

'It wasn't just "because of a camera" though was it? From the source you linked, it was a camera that was positioned by Hamas in the hospital that was being used to observe the activity of IDF troops, in order to direct terrorist activity against them.'

Exactly. Nothing to see here just some 'journalists' <not hamas collaborators> taking scenic snaps or fun selfies maybe? 'Just a camera' indeed.

Hospitals need to tell these people to set up their surveillance units away from civilians.

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 08:45

Martymcfly24 · 26/08/2025 19:44

Bullshit.

Why did they order foreign doctors to leave before the strike?
Why was there a double tap strike (illegal under the Geneva Convention) if it was just to hit a camera surely the first one would have taken it out?
Why was it a tragic mistake yesterday but today there's a reason and the case is closed.

I think it's very likely that the foreign doctors were asked to leave because the IDF were planning a drone strike on the Hamas surveillance camera.

According to the IDF statement, the "double tap" happened because shortly after the drone strike, troops spotted what they thought was a rifle scope, assessed it as an immediate threat, and urgently sought approval to fire.

This is currently the subject of a wider investigation because Hebrew media later reported that IDF Southern Command had only authorized a drone strike on the Hamas surveillance camera but did not approve the use of tank shells that ultimately caused the deaths, including those of several journalists.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5399464-idf-widens-nasser-hospital-probe-amid-questions-over-who-approved-tank-fire

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 08:49

Gloriia · 27/08/2025 08:44

'It wasn't just "because of a camera" though was it? From the source you linked, it was a camera that was positioned by Hamas in the hospital that was being used to observe the activity of IDF troops, in order to direct terrorist activity against them.'

Exactly. Nothing to see here just some 'journalists' <not hamas collaborators> taking scenic snaps or fun selfies maybe? 'Just a camera' indeed.

Hospitals need to tell these people to set up their surveillance units away from civilians.

Hamas deliberately use hospitals for their activities though don't they? Blood shed as a result is all good propaganda to them (as evidenced by comments on this thread).

And hospitals have no ability to tell Hamas not to do it because Hamas run the hospitals.