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Conflict in the Middle East

Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Applenation · 24/05/2025 23:27

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

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Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 11:22

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 01:40

Why hasn’t Egypt opened its border to allow at least women and children refuge from a war zone?

Have you all written to your MPs about that?

Anyway, just putting this here. No one, on a parenting site, has questioned how a mother of TEN children aged 12 and under manages to hold down a job as a paediatrician (I don’t think there’s much in the way of daycare in Gaza).

Especially when she wears a BURKA so is obviously part of a devout Muslim household and that must make it quite a challenge to do her job.

Are we to assume her husband, also a doctor, who drove her to work while leaving all those children at home alone (having been given notice to evacuate the area), did the childcare and she must have gone back to work quite soon after each successive birth?

I mean come on, put your hate of Israel aside for a second and try to use your logic and critical thinking skills instead of accusing people who DO actually use them of being bots which is slightly the pot calling the kettle black if you think about it (ah but then you’d have to use the skills above so a bit of a challenge).

My faith in humanity has been destroyed by people who are full of such hate for a long persecuted group of people that they will believe evil terrorist propaganda over all sense and logic, despite those terrorists live-streaming horrific atrocities that they gleefully carried out for all to see and sacrificing their own their own children for their fucked up ideology.

https://honestreporting.com/misleading-photos-raise-questions-about-gazan-doctor-who-lost-nine-children-in-israeli-strike/

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1926752553187803181

To McFly.

This is the story posted earlier. I was commenting on this post after reading the link.in this story. I used quotes from this piece. They show some inaccurate pictures and AI generated images shared on social media.

If you scroll back.its there to see. I've just found it again and quoted it here.

Commenting on a link posted earlier, leads to the usual... are you denying children died, my answer is NO, are you saying...etc etc. No, I am commenting on an article shared about some fake images shown, (not all images from all sites (surely that much is obvious for the people at the back waiting to jump).

It's painful on here. Having to carefully explain every single comment, so that people who want to purposely misinterpret everything , understand.

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 11:27

Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 11:22

To McFly.

This is the story posted earlier. I was commenting on this post after reading the link.in this story. I used quotes from this piece. They show some inaccurate pictures and AI generated images shared on social media.

If you scroll back.its there to see. I've just found it again and quoted it here.

Commenting on a link posted earlier, leads to the usual... are you denying children died, my answer is NO, are you saying...etc etc. No, I am commenting on an article shared about some fake images shown, (not all images from all sites (surely that much is obvious for the people at the back waiting to jump).

It's painful on here. Having to carefully explain every single comment, so that people who want to purposely misinterpret everything , understand.

I read that piece of Hasbara drivel earlier.

I was only asking who John was you keep referring to a person called Honest John but I was wondering who it was because there was no John in the article it's Honest Reporting. Is it a nickname for those in the know and believe this.

Only asking because accuracy is so important to you.

Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 11:31

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 11:27

I read that piece of Hasbara drivel earlier.

I was only asking who John was you keep referring to a person called Honest John but I was wondering who it was because there was no John in the article it's Honest Reporting. Is it a nickname for those in the know and believe this.

Only asking because accuracy is so important to you.

I apologise.

It's the article I was referring to. No idea where John came from. Now I understand why you couldn't find it. I was unaware of the nickname and thought it was Honest John. My mistake.

That was the article I was commenting on. I was quoting the fake pictures etc. I never said all images from all sites were fake as someone assumed.

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 11:36

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 11:27

I read that piece of Hasbara drivel earlier.

I was only asking who John was you keep referring to a person called Honest John but I was wondering who it was because there was no John in the article it's Honest Reporting. Is it a nickname for those in the know and believe this.

Only asking because accuracy is so important to you.

The Honest Reporting website was set up specifically to expose false information and anti- Israel propaganda.

Where has it ever been shown to be wrong?

Can you go through the website and point out the lies?

How dare you dismiss it as ‘Hasbara drivel’ when you probably use Al Jazeera and Instagram as your sources.

Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 11:40

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 11:36

The Honest Reporting website was set up specifically to expose false information and anti- Israel propaganda.

Where has it ever been shown to be wrong?

Can you go through the website and point out the lies?

How dare you dismiss it as ‘Hasbara drivel’ when you probably use Al Jazeera and Instagram as your sources.

I was commenting on this article showing fake images about the doctor. I commented on this use of fake images etc that helps no one at all.

Unfortunately, few read the link and so jumped on my commenting with various assumptions.

I'm.sure there have been fake images used and pr runs this conflict and incites people

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 11:47

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Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 11:53

This is just rubbish and another form of deflecting that we see so often by a select few posters on these threads.

Most people can see right through it.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 11:55

Israel bombed the home of this doctor killing her nine children with many of them burnt extremely badly.

There is an uproar over this on main stream media so now some people are trying desperately to deflect and blame everyone and everything else except for Israel who dropped the bombs and killed the children.

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 12:02

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 11:53

This is just rubbish and another form of deflecting that we see so often by a select few posters on these threads.

Most people can see right through it.

Isn't it just.

Do you remember the thread another lovely poster put up about the Palestinian film maker killed and it was derailed with the same crap . Op pulled it then because they were upset by the deflections.

Because if we are talking about their drivel we aren't talking about a woman who lost 9 of her babies.

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 12:05

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Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:05

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 12:02

Isn't it just.

Do you remember the thread another lovely poster put up about the Palestinian film maker killed and it was derailed with the same crap . Op pulled it then because they were upset by the deflections.

Because if we are talking about their drivel we aren't talking about a woman who lost 9 of her babies.

Precisely, it really does them no favours but they persist, as we can guess why.

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 12:23

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:05

Precisely, it really does them no favours but they persist, as we can guess why.

Yep.

Same as the victim blaming post above.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:30

How much islamophobic hate speech will mumsnet allow on here? About a woman who has lost nine of her children?

Some people are so so ignorant and all they are doing is showing themselves up.

Wearing a niqab which is a face covering does NOT symbolise extremist practicing of Islam. The ignorance is astounding. Would you believe if I told you I know teachers who cover their faces with the niqab who work in this country? Very good teachers too. They just don't wear it whilst at work. And NO the entire area had not evacuated. Why are you spreading lies?

4/5 of Gaza has been declared an evacuation zone and many have not evacuated at a moments notice because they have nowhere to go. Your constant attempts to put blame on the parents for the deaths of their children is terrible and dehumanising and on display for all to see.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:32

I am not going to engage with your hate speech any further.

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 12:45

So you are refusing to answer my questions then?

You can just admit it instead of making false allegations.

Kindatired · 28/05/2025 17:07

Posters should listen to Dr Ali, uncle of the children who has just taken part in an in-depth interview with Joe Duffy on RTE Liveline radio programme. His sister asks only 2 things, the return of the last 2 bodies of her children who are buried under the rubble rotting so they can be buried with their siblings and prayers for her family. Her brother, who is a doctor in Sligo for years, has condemned the taking of civilian hostages and called for an end to violence. He does not condemn the Jewish people and calls for a peaceful solution. He has condemned the targeting of children , elderly and healthcare workers, vital infrastructure such as health facilities and water plants.

sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:11

In a searing address to the UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East and Gaza, American trauma surgeon Dr. Feroze Sidhwa delivered a first-hand account of Gaza's collapsing healthcare system, drawing from his two medical missions to Khan Younis. "I am not here as a policymaker, but as a physician bearing witness to the deliberate destruction of healthcare, the targeting of my colleagues, and the erasure of a people," he stated, describing surgeries performed on filthy floors without anaesthesia and children dying from preventable causes due to Israel's blockade of medical supplies. With haunting detail, he recounted treating pregnant women "whose pelvises had been obliterated and their foetuses cut in two," and revealed that 83% of American medics in Gaza reported seeing children shot in the head or chest. "This is not system failure - it has been systematically dismantled through violations of international law," he emphasised, condemning the man-made famine now killing more civilians than bombs. His testimony peaked with the March 18 mass casualty event at Nasser Hospital, where 221 trauma patients arrived in one morning - 90 dead on arrival, nearly half children - an onslaught no besieged health system could withstand. "Parents memorise their children's clothing to identify remains," he said, exposing the war's psychological toll: nearly half of Gaza's children are now suicidal, asking, "Why didn't I die with my family?" Dr. Sidhwa implored the Council to enforce seven measures, including an arms embargo, calling their inaction "a testament to collapsed conscience" as Gaza's last doctors and a generation of Palestinians face annihilation. "You cannot claim ignorance," he concluded, "when children no longer want to live.

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sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:15

Here’s the doctor mentioned above. His life’s work is dedicated to humanitarian efforts, especially in the conflicts we’re so often told we should care about too.

Dr. Feroze Sidhwa is a general, trauma, and critical care surgeon in California. He is also a humanitarian surgeon, having worked most extensively in Palestine, but also in Ukraine, Haiti, Zimbabwe, and Burkina Faso. He most recently volunteered at the European Hospital in Khan Younis, Gaza from March 25-April 8, 2024 with the World Health Organization, and again from March 3-April 1, 2025 with American NGO MedGlobal. Feroze has written and spoken extensively about surgical humanitarian work, the United States’ role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the political consequences of medical relief work. He approaches the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a secular American and as a humanitarian physician.

Municipal · 28/05/2025 18:16

Why are they targeting children and pregnant women?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 28/05/2025 18:29

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Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:23

Municipal · 28/05/2025 18:16

Why are they targeting children and pregnant women?

They are not. What gives you the right to throw such accusations around while screaming bloody blue murder if somebody claims that some of the Palestinians involved may be not innocent (I am not referring to the children). Stop 🛑

Municipal · 28/05/2025 19:26

The Drs treating patients in the hospitals are reporting that. That’s the evidence. They are seeing mainly children and women. Sniped.

Not caught in cross-fire but targeted.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:28

Municipal · 28/05/2025 19:26

The Drs treating patients in the hospitals are reporting that. That’s the evidence. They are seeing mainly children and women. Sniped.

Not caught in cross-fire but targeted.

  1. How do they know targeted? 2. How do they know that the perpetrator wasn't Hamas?
AgingLikeGazpacho · 28/05/2025 21:19

sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:11

In a searing address to the UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East and Gaza, American trauma surgeon Dr. Feroze Sidhwa delivered a first-hand account of Gaza's collapsing healthcare system, drawing from his two medical missions to Khan Younis. "I am not here as a policymaker, but as a physician bearing witness to the deliberate destruction of healthcare, the targeting of my colleagues, and the erasure of a people," he stated, describing surgeries performed on filthy floors without anaesthesia and children dying from preventable causes due to Israel's blockade of medical supplies. With haunting detail, he recounted treating pregnant women "whose pelvises had been obliterated and their foetuses cut in two," and revealed that 83% of American medics in Gaza reported seeing children shot in the head or chest. "This is not system failure - it has been systematically dismantled through violations of international law," he emphasised, condemning the man-made famine now killing more civilians than bombs. His testimony peaked with the March 18 mass casualty event at Nasser Hospital, where 221 trauma patients arrived in one morning - 90 dead on arrival, nearly half children - an onslaught no besieged health system could withstand. "Parents memorise their children's clothing to identify remains," he said, exposing the war's psychological toll: nearly half of Gaza's children are now suicidal, asking, "Why didn't I die with my family?" Dr. Sidhwa implored the Council to enforce seven measures, including an arms embargo, calling their inaction "a testament to collapsed conscience" as Gaza's last doctors and a generation of Palestinians face annihilation. "You cannot claim ignorance," he concluded, "when children no longer want to live.

Children being shot in the head and chest stood out to me here. How can so many be shot if purely in accidental cross fire? If true it sounds like they have been wilfully targeted or injured through a callous machine gunning of anyone within range?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 29/05/2025 01:30

Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:28

  1. How do they know targeted? 2. How do they know that the perpetrator wasn't Hamas?

83% of US medics have encountered kids shot in the head and the chest. there are countless accounts from international medics where they said that the dead children were hit in the heart and the head - witnesses said that it was Israeli snipers - how is it these well trained snipers hit them precisely in the heart and the head by accident. An Irish surgeon who recently returned to Ireland talked about a family that was annihilated by fire from an apache helicopter - again precise shots on children. No one accidentally shoots that many kids.

A few quotes and sources-

"We [were] operating on children who would say: 'I was lying on the ground after a bomb had dropped and this quadcopter came down and hovered over me and shot me.'
"That's clearly a deliberate act and it was a persistent act - persistent targeting of civilians day after day." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7893vpy2gqo.amp

“The Canadian doctor’s heart sank. These were not the first children treated by Alvi who she was told were targeted by Israeli soldiers, and she knew the damage a single high-calibre bullet could do to a fragile young body.
“They were not able to talk, paraplegic. They were literally lying down as vegetables on those beds. They were not the only ones. I saw even small children with direct sniper shot wounds to the head as well as in the chest. They were not combatants, they were small children,” said Alvi.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

“The doctor went on to claim that Israeli snipers are deliberately shooting children in Gaza, citing his observation of two children who were shot twice. "No child gets shot twice by mistake," he said.”

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/t%C3%AAte-%C3%A0-t%C3%AAte/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

“Most of the cases we treated were women and children, and particularly disturbing were the children with a single injury, a bullet to the head, which was clearly the result of deliberate sniper fire. Indeed, 30 UK doctors and nurses who had worked in Gaza last year wrote to Keir Starmer in August stating that they had regularly seen evidence of the deliberate targeting of children (as did 99 US health workers who wrote a similar letter to President Joe Biden in October).”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/02/surgeon-gaza-children-britain-sniper-fire-drones-labour-arms-israel

Prof Nizam Mamode giving evidence to MPs

Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children - BBC News

Children lying injured in Gaza were picked out and shot by quadcopters, a senior doctor tells MPs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7893vpy2gqo.amp