Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

[Applenation]

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

You clearly didn't read my response properly

I prefer to wait and see if it's more effective than the US/ Iran talk which were scheduled for today before deciding if it's worth the deaths of innocent civilians

What part of that suggests I want Iran to have nuclear weapons? Because I disagree with the method being used to prevent it doesn't mean I'm not in favour of denuclearisation. You have very black and white thinking on this.

No I don't have very black and white thinking.

It seems that Israel's method is working because Iran is now frantically signalling that it wants to end its escalating conflict with Israel and resume nuclear talks according to the Telegraph and Wall Street Journal.

Before the war with Israel, Iran was being very defiant about failing to comply with its nuclear non-proliferation obligations. It had announced that it had built and would activate a third site to enrich uranium that could produce fissile material used to make a nuclear weapon. The negotiations were not working if Iran felt strong enough to make statements like that.

Now it wants to resume nuclear talks which most people will feel relieved about.

Were they not due in talks with US on Sunday? Before Israel started strikes?

The US-based Arms Control Association, said Israel "did not present any clear or compelling evidence that Iran was on the brink of weaponizing". US intelligence agencies had assessed that Iran was not engaged in key weaponization work. This has been stated.
But Israel finds differently, but will not share its evidence with anyone. Instead it just attacks.

Talking wasn't working:

The global nuclear watchdog's board of governors has formally declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations for the first time in 20 years.
Nineteen of the 35 countries on the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) voted for the motion, which was backed by the US, UK, France and Germany.
It says Iran's "many failures" to provide the IAEA with full answers about its undeclared nuclear material and activities constitutes non-compliance. It also expresses concern about Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium, which can be used to make reactor fuel but also nuclear weapons.
Iran condemned the resolution as "political" and said it would open a new enrichment facility.
It follows a report from the IAEA last week which criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3v6w2qr12o

Talks were supposed to be held this Sunday though. You can't really say talking wasn't working without allowing talks to happen.
Never mind not producing any evidence to justify bombing Iran (not just me saying this, I've quoted in post above).

There had already been 5 rounds of talks - the one on Sunday would have been the sixth (as I expect you know). And the talks were not convincing Iran to stop - they had just announced that they had built and would activate a third site to enrich uranium.

G7 Leaders' statement on recent developments between Israel and Iran

We, the leaders of the G7, reiterate our commitment to peace and stability in the Middle East.
In this context, we affirm that Israel has a right to defend itself. We reiterate our support for the security of Israel.
We also affirm the importance of the protection of civilians.
Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.
We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.
We urge that the resolution of the Iranian crisis leads to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.
We will remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability.

ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_25_1523

The big problem here is Trump. Which way will he sway? Israel listens to no one except him and even then thats not a certainty.
i wonder how Israeli people feel about this? The media can't represent everyone. I imagine for every supporter of these wars there are equal numbers against.

There are many people in both countries who are against both regimes and this action. People will suffer unfortunately, and the poor people in Gaza continue to suffer.

I've repeatedly quoted Nizam Mamode and will do so again
There's no ifs or buts about whether this is a war crime

Professor Mamode's evidence to the International Development Committee was very compelling and there's no doubt that the horrific injuries and operating conditions he described are real.
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However, there are some obvious inconsistencies/confusion in his evidence. He describes drones coming down after a bomb has dropped, picking off civilians and shooting them (something he hasn't witnessed himself) - but also that the bullets fired from these drones are 'small cuboid pellets'. However these cuboid pellets are described elsewhere as fragmentations from a missile or shell which can disperse up to 20 metres away when the missile/shell explodes - which is obviously inconsistent with his description of targeted shots.
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Professor Mamode also claims that 'there is plenty of evidence out there from Israeli soldiers' that these sniper drones are being used in Gaza - 'coming in and shooting civilians'. Is there? There doesn't seem to be any verified video footage of these sniper drones, only speculation, which is odd if they are being used 'day after day after day'.