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To be horrified that Israel is slaughtering children at a rate not seen in over 20 years? (thread 2)

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ThisNattyTurtle · 30/03/2025 09:07

Israel has been found to be committing genocide in Gaza by legal teams from the UN, Amnesty and Human Rights Watch. Israel has deliberately attacked MSF ambulances and clinics and the World Central Kitchen killing overseas volunteers including a British army vet.
See Amnesty video explaining below

Jewish-American Dr. Mark Perlmutter on what he saw in Gaza and why he believes it's deliberate genocide (warning - heart breaking)
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ia9sa0iuwHw

On average one child is being killed every 45minutes. Over 100 were killed 18th and 19th March alone. There has been a total blockade preventing entry of food or medicine since the start of March.

Israel is an apartheid state according to the ICJ, UN, B'Tselem, Yesh Din, Amnesty, Human Rights Watch.

The British government is supporting Israel in this genocide with military recon flights and arms. Our government did not stop supporting White Apartheid South Africa until it was forced to by British people's outrage, and by the global boycott. It is time to do the same again to show that we do not accept genocide and that we really do stand by the values of international humanitarian law.

Dr Mark Perlmutter describes finding ‘distinct signs of genocide’ in Gaza

“Genocide was the overwhelming impression that I got.”Orthopaedics surgeon Dr Mark Perlmutter described to Democracy Now on Thursday that he found “distinct ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=116s&v=2QdalGDpCIU

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RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 19:02

GoldLash · 22/05/2025 17:07

I saw a woman being interviewed a few days ago saying they need to kill the children so they don’t pass on their ideologies like their parents have to them. As far as we’ve been told by the hostages the children were just a brutal as everyone else. So to them they’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated with all this violent hate.

Yeah anyone who justifies the murder of kids is a sociopath, pure and simple. Are you quoting people or do you share their ideology?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 19:20

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What about the Israeli’s who spout nonsense about a man in the sky promising them the land so they can justify removing the residents at gun point or in body bags? Is that good parenting?

I saw a video where Daniella Weiss took families on a cruise past Gaza and said to the little kids that God promised them the land and it would be theirs someday. All the little kids, some around 4/5 year olds, were getting so excited about being given the land while looking at the beach that Gazan children have been bombed and shot on. These kids have been indoctrinated and brainwashed to think they are the “chosen people” and it is therefore okay to steal and murder lesser humans to get what was “promised”. Should I say “well they are indoctrinated so we need to clear the nest” (terminology used by various Israeli extremists in interviews) - no, I am not a sociopath, they are children. I do think adults grooming them should stand trial in an international court and serve substantial prison sentences.

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 19:26

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Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 08:55

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 17:04

That it could possibly be antisemitic? He killed two people, at least one of them Jewish, outside of a Jewish museum. So yeah I think it's a possibility.

But you can't prove it. That's the problem with proof and possibility.

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 11:07

Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 08:55

But you can't prove it. That's the problem with proof and possibility.

Doesn't usually stop the speculation on these boards.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 11:30

Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 08:55

But you can't prove it. That's the problem with proof and possibility.

But you also can't prove it definitely wasn't, which is what the poster I was replying to was asserting.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/05/2025 11:55

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onemaybetwo · 23/05/2025 11:59

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 19:02

Yeah anyone who justifies the murder of kids is a sociopath, pure and simple. Are you quoting people or do you share their ideology?

I actually think this is sadly what they are trying to achieve. These poor children aren’t just caught in crossfire or starved due to logistics of aid it’s possible that it’s deliberately done to weed out current hamas plus any future hamas. It’s barbaric

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 13:27

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.....privileged white people...... - was that necessary?

Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 14:11

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 11:30

But you also can't prove it definitely wasn't, which is what the poster I was replying to was asserting.

I don’t need to. It was you who raised the proof issue.

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 14:32

Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 14:11

I don’t need to. It was you who raised the proof issue.

Are we talking about 'beyond reasonable doubt' or 'on the balance of probabilities.'

"Rodriguez bought a ticket to the Young Diplomats event held at the museum just three hours before it kicked off. It had been advertised online as a 'special event' in Washington DC to 'bring together young Jewish professionals' aged between 22 and 45."

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 14:36

Letmecallyouback · 23/05/2025 14:11

I don’t need to. It was you who raised the proof issue.

Yes because someone made an absolute statement...

I wasn't asking you for proof. I was asking them.

Glitchymn1 · 23/05/2025 14:55

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MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 15:25

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Yep, to those who defend what is being done to the Palestinian people, well karma will get you one day....

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 15:58

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 15:25

Yep, to those who defend what is being done to the Palestinian people, well karma will get you one day....

You're a buddhist? Who knew? Bit aggressive for a buddhist.

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 13:27

.....privileged white people...... - was that necessary?

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

andtheworldrollson · 23/05/2025 16:16

Yes but they were named people with faces and lives and family to shout for them

sad but true that to many one name matters whereas 50 nameless don’t

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 16:17

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

Still not relevant to describe them that way, it's a narrative device to appeal to a particular prejudice, a dog whistle if you like. You and I both heard it.
woof.

HellsBalls · 23/05/2025 16:46

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

They are not being bombed in tents, and half of any people reportedly killed will be terrorists.
So to be a tad more accurate, another 25 Gazans died today, along with 25 Hamas terrorists.

Glitchymn1 · 23/05/2025 17:05

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 15:58

You're a buddhist? Who knew? Bit aggressive for a buddhist.

Karma- aggressive? I would say that’s very mild in the circumstances!

BelleHathor · 23/05/2025 17:12

Trigger warning for image.

His name was Khaled Al-Zeinati, a baby burned alive in his tent last week, may he Rest in Peace.

Feel free to search for him, warning that the unblurred picture is triggering. Also look at all the "lovely" people calling it AI or Pallywood or saying FAFO.

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To be horrified that Israel is slaughtering children at a rate not seen in over 20 years? (thread 2)
MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 17:56

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 15:58

You're a buddhist? Who knew? Bit aggressive for a buddhist.

It's not aggressive to point out that what goes around usually comes around. If you wish horrific things on other people, then you had better hope you aren't tempting fate. If people on here are comfortable with kids being starved to death, having their limbs blown off, and losing both parents and their siblings, then they need to ask themselves if they would be comfortable with that happening to their own kids.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

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What exactly have I said that was Islamaphobic? That's a serious accusation.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 17:56

It's not aggressive to point out that what goes around usually comes around. If you wish horrific things on other people, then you had better hope you aren't tempting fate. If people on here are comfortable with kids being starved to death, having their limbs blown off, and losing both parents and their siblings, then they need to ask themselves if they would be comfortable with that happening to their own kids.

So what horrific things are you wishing on people exactly?

smallglassbottle · 23/05/2025 18:08

BelleHathor · 23/05/2025 17:12

Trigger warning for image.

His name was Khaled Al-Zeinati, a baby burned alive in his tent last week, may he Rest in Peace.

Feel free to search for him, warning that the unblurred picture is triggering. Also look at all the "lovely" people calling it AI or Pallywood or saying FAFO.

Nothing, anywhere in the universe, justifies this. Absolutely nothing. You've lost your humanity and are an empty shell with no soul if you honestly think this is okay (to those who think this is a good thing).

Think. About. It.