Do You See the Conflict in the Middle East as a Religious War or a Land Grab?

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Is it a religious war, with Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis, &c supporting Hamas aims of destroying the 'Zionist Project', aka the Jewish homeland, and Global Jihad, or is it a land grab by Israel?

Land grab.

Wars are always about land, money and power. This is no different. Only one side have nothing to fight with. It’s like Ukraine without the west helping them but helping Russia instead.

It's most unedifying to hear Israelis bleating about having to use shelters when their forces are literally pureeing thousands of innocent children just a few miles away.

What a disgusting thing to say. Would you say that about anyone else who was under attack from rockets?

It’s just another land grab. They’ve been doing this since 1947.

Take a look at TikTok, there were people blacking out their teeth, wearing pretend hijabs and covering themselves in dust to mock people being bombed.

And that makes it okay to insult and demean Israelis who are scared for their lives does it?

I don't think it's acceptable to insult or demean anyone who is scared for their lives. I'm sure you agree.

Yes I do, so I'm not sure what your statement has to do with what I said.

I'm agreeing with you. It's disgusting to demean people who are being bombed. I can't be any clearer.

I think you mean you can demean Israelis as they are less important to you. That’s what you are insinuating.

I feel for the innocents on both sides.

You're making things up. I meant exactly what I said.

I’m not making things up but maybe I have misinterpreted what has (or hasn’t) been written, and if that is the case then I apologise.

Landgrab, also to do with wider issues, to do with the interests of very rich people, not to do with normal Israelis or Palestinians - except to the extent normal people have been manipulated to believe that this is the only way. It isn't. The more people demanding 2 two state solution and total cessation of violence the better.

No. But NB people who want war will also want hatred between peoples as that makes war easier to justify, and we should all probably individually be responsible for trying to not allow that to happen. Also be aware that some of the scared in Isreal could be those who do not support the actions but are not allowed to say so.

I think we need to think in terms of humanity now rather than people vs people.

Land grab.

Land grab has the majority vote

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/02/fears-grow-israel-plans-seize-land-gaza-siege-netanyahu-war-aims

The original Likud platform states “The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.
b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewishpopulation, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace”
So no surprise that this is happening.
Oops , from the river to the sea! I’ll be on the UK government terrorist watch list now

Yes it’s funny how those who are actually trying to claim land from the river to the sea have successfully claimed anyone wanting to free themselves from the tyranny is a terrorist lover.

Disgusting people