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EasterIssland · 09/11/2024 00:59

My comment from this morning got deleted (I’ve already challenged it to mnhq). However , to me it’s important to keep something in this thread that the Israeli hooligans have done. They’ve not respected the minute of silence for the Spanish (&british) people that have died in the horrible floodings that have happened in the last week.
https://as.com/futbol/videos/los-ultras-del-maccabi-sabotearon-el-minuto-de-silencio-en-honor-a-los-fallecidos-por-la-dana-en-valencia-v/

this shouldn’t be accepted in football. Spain is doing more and more nowadays against those teams that are allowing racism in their grounds (tho in my opinion not enough). They’re closing stadiums for racism. In my opinion Ajax should be accountable for allowing fireworks into the stadium. Maccabi should be penalised for the behaviour of their hooligans not respecting death civilians.

Los ultras del Maccabi sabotearon el minuto de silencio en honor a Valencia

Durante el encuentro de Europa League entre Ajax y Maccabi de Tel-Aviv, los ultras de Israel sabotearon el minuto de silencio.

https://as.com/futbol/videos/los-ultras-del-maccabi-sabotearon-el-minuto-de-silencio-en-honor-a-los-fallecidos-por-la-dana-en-valencia-v

Lalaloveya · 09/11/2024 23:31

44 people killed in 24 hours in Gaza according to RTÉ news. Including a group of children preparing to play football and 2 journalists and a child in another attack. Many tented refugee camps amongst the attacks. I'm just recalling what I saw on TV earlier but there's a written report below. These are massacres of civilians. Undoubtedly illegal. All part of the genocide.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1109/1480021-middle-east/

Children among 44 killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza

A Gaza family sat weeping over children killed by an Israeli airstrike as they were getting ready to play football, amid an intensified Israeli bombardment that Palestinian health authorities said has killed 44 people over the past 24 hours.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1109/1480021-middle-east

Lalaloveya · 10/11/2024 13:55

They've killed approximately 30 people today in Gaza. Including 13 children according to RTÉ news.

MissyB1 · 10/11/2024 17:56

No matter how many war crimes they commit no one calls them out - well certainly not our Government 😡

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2024 18:11

The settlers are attacking their own army now. They've all completely lost it. Lunatics.

Daftasabroom · 10/11/2024 18:23

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2024 18:11

The settlers are attacking their own army now. They've all completely lost it. Lunatics.

Have you got a link please?

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2024 18:26

@Daftasabroom m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-827567

Daftasabroom · 10/11/2024 18:30

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2024 18:26

Nuts.

Daftasabroom · 11/11/2024 15:22

@EasterIssland "My task is to create a cleansed space."

I don't see how anyone can argue against this direct quote from an Israeli officer in the Israeli media.

Dulra · 11/11/2024 15:24

Shocking. From the article

The Israeli military is conducting an ethnic cleansing operation in the northern Gaza Strip. The few Palestinians remaining in the area are being forcibly evacuated, homes and infrastructure have been destroyed, and wide roads in the area are being built and completing the separation of the communities in the northern Strip from the center of Gaza City.
Anyone know what's the purpose of the wide roads?

A senior IDF officer, identified by London's The Guardian newspaper as Brig. Gen. Itzik Cohen, the commander of the 162nd Division, explained to reporters: "There is no intention of allowing the residents of the northern Gaza Strip to return to their homes."
Doesn't bode well does he mean never return?

ScrollingLeaves · 12/11/2024 15:03

Haaretz
Israeli Soldiers Shot an Israeli Bedouin Youth Near the Egypt Border and Did Not Inform Public

The body of Yassin Abu Rois, 18, was found by hikers in southern Israel. It's the second time in two months a young Bedouin has been killed by IDF fire in the area, with no official statements issued in either.

PeasfullPerson · 13/11/2024 21:55

It seems to go on and on and on @EasterIssland I despair.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/11/2024 04:50

Does anyone know if Israel submitted their report to the ICJ about how they're taking measures to prevent genocide? I've heard nothing about that and it's been ages. Israel has been terrible at adhering to the requirements outlined in ruling.

Auvergne63 · 14/11/2024 13:44

Scirocco · 14/11/2024 12:06

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/14/israel-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-over-forced-displacement-in-gaza

I can't find the words just now. How are people ok with this? How can people choose to ignore that these things are legally and morally wrong?

I can't either but Gideon Levy did:
"“Thanks to the media and the politicians—two of the worst agents for dumbing down and blinding Israeli society—we learned that the Arabs were born to kill, the whole world is against us, anti-Semitism determines how Israel is dealt with and there is no connection between our actions and the price we pay.”

Dulra · 14/11/2024 13:51

Scirocco · 14/11/2024 12:06

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/14/israel-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-over-forced-displacement-in-gaza

I can't find the words just now. How are people ok with this? How can people choose to ignore that these things are legally and morally wrong?

Israel is using evacuation orders to pursue the “deliberate and massive forced displacement” of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, according to a report by Human Rights Watch, which says the policy amounts to crimes against humanity.

The US-based group added it had collected evidence that suggested “the war crime of forcible transfer [of the civilian population]”, describing it as “a grave breach of the Geneva conventions and a crime under the Rome statute of the international criminal court”.

The report was published amid mounting evidence that Israel is accelerating its efforts to cut the Gaza Strip in two with a buffer zone and is building new infrastructure to support a prolonged military presence, with an increased pace of demolitions and destruction.

I can understand why you can't find the words. It is horrific enough it is happening but the fact that they are enabled to do it by the lack of any backbone from the international community is inexcusable. This is so far off a resolution that will facilitate a Palestinian state moving further and further away from peace.

MissyB1 · 15/11/2024 11:46

What the fuck is wrong with Israel that they not only want to kill Palestinian kids, but they do their best to block them getting treatment for their wounds when they have severely injured them!! Do Israel get some kind of sadistic thrill from this? 😡😡😡

Lalaloveya · 15/11/2024 12:00

MissyB1 · 15/11/2024 11:46

What the fuck is wrong with Israel that they not only want to kill Palestinian kids, but they do their best to block them getting treatment for their wounds when they have severely injured them!! Do Israel get some kind of sadistic thrill from this? 😡😡😡

I think some must enjoy it. For others it's just part of the genocidal effort to destroy Gaza and Gazans.

It's absolutely deplorable. I can't believe they're openly doing this because it shows that they are absolute psychos.

I'd be interested in how Mumsnet posters who support this would defend it.

Dulra · 15/11/2024 12:44

MissyB1 · 15/11/2024 11:46

What the fuck is wrong with Israel that they not only want to kill Palestinian kids, but they do their best to block them getting treatment for their wounds when they have severely injured them!! Do Israel get some kind of sadistic thrill from this? 😡😡😡

It's control and intimidation. There is no military security risk to allow these children access to medical intervention outside Gaza. So they refuse because they can and want Gazans to know that.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2024 16:25

Today I heard on the radio that Znetanyahu and cronies have tampered with and falsified the time of telephone calls received soon after the Hamas attack on Oct 7. A follow up call was made to appear sooner than it was to make him appear to have made a decision sooner than he had.

I think Israel appears to be ruled by
a lying, criminally minded near dictator.

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