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Custardcream84 · 22/10/2024 08:22

lionlass · 22/10/2024 07:46

““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”

One of the worst things about this article is it described in detail Palestinians being bulldozed and described as pieces of meat yet the trigger warning at the start of the article originally only states that readers may find details of the suicide upsetting….dehumanisation every day of Palestinians that their horrific deaths aren’t worth of being upsetting but the suicides of their killers are…(it’s been changed after outrage on Twitter)

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)
Lettherebejustice · 22/10/2024 08:39

lionlass · 22/10/2024 07:46

““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”

Is a poster really suggesting we should have sympathy for murderers who have ptsd because of the gruesome way they murdered Palestinians? I hope those murderers never see a day of peace in their lives.

lionlass · 22/10/2024 08:49

Lettherebejustice · 22/10/2024 08:39

Is a poster really suggesting we should have sympathy for murderers who have ptsd because of the gruesome way they murdered Palestinians? I hope those murderers never see a day of peace in their lives.

I was referring to how the article was written. The MSM are a disgrace.

Lettherebejustice · 22/10/2024 08:59

lionlass · 22/10/2024 08:49

I was referring to how the article was written. The MSM are a disgrace.

Yes, I was agreeing with you and it is a disgrace.

Auvergne63 · 22/10/2024 09:01

Lettherebejustice · 22/10/2024 08:39

Is a poster really suggesting we should have sympathy for murderers who have ptsd because of the gruesome way they murdered Palestinians? I hope those murderers never see a day of peace in their lives.

When this is over, these murderers will return to civil life. The mental health service in Israel is lacking. The consequences of this will be huge for Israelis.
I have no sympathy for them. The way you behave is a choice. They chose to carry their acts of barbarity; they will pay the price, not only them but their families too. Did they think of this before becoming monsters?

anotherlevel · 22/10/2024 09:06

Dulra · 21/10/2024 19:42

Did anyone see C4 news report from an illegal settler camp on the border with Gaza this evening? Settlers spouting disgusting hate filled rhetoric. Describing Palestinians as the infection in a cut that needs to be cleaned out. Suggesting Ireland and the UK would be happy to take them, mass deportations, the evil is so bad you have to do something with it.
Yes these can be dismissed as extremist views but they're there with the IDF supporting them and Isreali government ministers visiting and supporting them. It's so blatant what they're planning, literally waiting in the wings to enter Gaza when the time is right and the "evil is removed". None of this is going to help Israel in any way.

No I missed it but by the sounds of what you've posted it sounds shockingly vile. How are they allowed to even say this? If anyone said this about Israelis you bet your arse you'd be called out for it and labelled antisemitic too. Sounds like they're vultures waiting for their prey to die before swooping in and taking it.
Yes they may be extremist views but we can't discount them because they do exist and problematic.

anotherlevel · 22/10/2024 09:09

*““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”*

Then may be he should have thought about that before he made a CHOICE to gruesomely murder innocent civilians. Sorry I have no sympathy for people who are murderous scum and especially if they show zero remorse or regret. I hope it haunts him for the rest of his life.

EasterIssland · 22/10/2024 09:13

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/settler-leader-daniella-weiss-says-palestinians-will-disappear-gaza

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries
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as long as this extremist are in government there won’t be peace in the area.

Israeli settler leader Daniella Weiss says Palestinians will 'disappear' from Gaza

Speaking at Likud-backed conference, Weiss says thousands of settlers are ready to move to Gaza, and Palestinians have 'lost the right' to be there

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/settler-leader-daniella-weiss-says-palestinians-will-disappear-gaza

Dulra · 22/10/2024 09:19

EasterIssland · 22/10/2024 09:13

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/settler-leader-daniella-weiss-says-palestinians-will-disappear-gaza

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries
——

as long as this extremist are in government there won’t be peace in the area.

Yes I think that was what C4 news were reporting from last night

Toomanywars · 22/10/2024 09:21

lionlass · 22/10/2024 07:46

““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”

Actually read the article. The entire article not just the bit you chose for sensation.

Dulra · 22/10/2024 09:24

Have they given any explanation as to how they will "disappear" from Gaza?

EasterIssland · 22/10/2024 09:28

Apologies @Dulra didnt realise it was the same “people” you were reporting about

lionlass · 22/10/2024 10:21

@Toomanywars I read the article and I think it's disgusting that articles are being written about how committing horrific war crimes is affecting the perpetrators as opposed to the victims.

Lettherebejustice · 22/10/2024 10:52

lionlass · 22/10/2024 10:21

@Toomanywars I read the article and I think it's disgusting that articles are being written about how committing horrific war crimes is affecting the perpetrators as opposed to the victims.

Quite right, the details in that article are horrific and people strangely expect us to have sympathy for soldiers who act like terrorists that bulldozed people to death.

anotherlevel · 22/10/2024 11:38

@Lettherebejustice It's probably because one life is worth more to them than the other.

Dulra · 22/10/2024 21:04

God that is depressing 😔

Dulra · 23/10/2024 12:12

US putting more pressure on

Antony Blinken has told Israeli leaders that “much more needs to be done” to get humanitarian aid to civilians in besieged northern Gaza, raising possible consequences in US law if action isn’t taken, a senior Biden administration official says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy898ld3yp8o

People carry their belongings as displaced Palestinians ordered by the Israeli military to evacuate the northern part of Gaza flee amid an Israeli military operation

Antony Blinken issues warning to Israel over Gaza aid

Antony Blinken has told Israel there may be consequences if more aid does not flow to civilians in northern Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy898ld3yp8o

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 13:13

Dulra · 23/10/2024 12:12

US putting more pressure on

Antony Blinken has told Israeli leaders that “much more needs to be done” to get humanitarian aid to civilians in besieged northern Gaza, raising possible consequences in US law if action isn’t taken, a senior Biden administration official says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy898ld3yp8o

Good.

I wonder what Israel will come up with in response this time

Scirocco · 23/10/2024 13:26

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 13:13

Good.

I wonder what Israel will come up with in response this time

"We're looking into it".

"They're all Hamas."

"Most moral army in the world".

"People are just pretending to be hungry and dying".

"Command and control centre".

Etc. Probably with a few more bombings of refugees and hospitals, and some more violence and oppression in the West Bank and Lebanon too.

The US needs to act, not just do the diplomatic equivalent of the ineffectual parent at soft play calling "soft hands please" as their child runs riot.

Dulra · 24/10/2024 13:44

EasterIssland · 23/10/2024 22:04

Very interesting read with a lot of valid points. Voice notes from medical staff in Jabalia was scary.

MissyB1 · 24/10/2024 20:35

I hate that I'm in a Country with such weak leaders that they refuse to condemn this genocide. They make pathetic pretend appeals for a ceasefire whilst still supporting Israel. Shame on them!