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For all those with friends and family and Israel...hope your safe

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mids2019 · 01/10/2024 17:53

For those that have friends and family in Israel just a quick message to hope all is OK at this worrying time.

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Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 19:27

Centrally · 01/10/2024 19:27

Keep telling yourselves that it's not a genocide

It’s not a genocide.

It’s a war.

ssd · 01/10/2024 19:28

Centrally · 01/10/2024 19:18

For what exactly?

For stating the obvious. That's not allowed now.

Gatehouse77 · 01/10/2024 19:29

Centrally · 01/10/2024 19:27

Keep telling yourselves that it's not a genocide

Keep telling yourself that it is?
I mean, it works both ways...🤷‍♀️

ssd · 01/10/2024 19:29

Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 19:27

It’s not a genocide.

It’s a war.

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It so obviously is. You denying it doesn't change facts.

Centrally · 01/10/2024 19:29

@Gatehouse77 I don't need to tell myself. It's a fact.

Gatehouse77 · 01/10/2024 19:31

Centrally · 01/10/2024 19:29

@Gatehouse77 I don't need to tell myself. It's a fact.

Okay 🤷‍♀️

SanMarzano · 01/10/2024 19:32

Gatehouse77 · 01/10/2024 19:22

Horrific and absolutely unacceptable but not a genocide. Those people are not being targeted. They are not being protected by Hamas or Hezbollah either.

Hospitals, refugee camps and aid points are being targeted.

Fescue · 01/10/2024 19:38

SanMarzano · 01/10/2024 19:32

Hospitals, refugee camps and aid points are being targeted.

I had not read that. I understood the Ayatollahs were only targeting Israeli military bases and an intelligence centre. I suspect we will find out more tomorrow.

SanMarzano · 01/10/2024 19:39

Fescue · 01/10/2024 19:38

I had not read that. I understood the Ayatollahs were only targeting Israeli military bases and an intelligence centre. I suspect we will find out more tomorrow.

Apologies if I wasn’t clear. These civilian targets are being targeted by Israel, not the other way around.

Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 19:42

ssd · 01/10/2024 19:29

It so obviously is. You denying it doesn't change facts.

This really isn’t the thread for this.

Fescue · 01/10/2024 19:42

SanMarzano · 01/10/2024 19:39

Apologies if I wasn’t clear. These civilian targets are being targeted by Israel, not the other way around.

Oh apologies, I thought for a minute you were on a thread about Gaza, the West Bank and Palestinians.

SanMarzano · 01/10/2024 19:44

Fescue · 01/10/2024 19:42

Oh apologies, I thought for a minute you were on a thread about Gaza, the West Bank and Palestinians.

I was replying to an earlier post that stated incorrect information. Is that only allowed on threads about Gaza?

79Helene · 01/10/2024 19:44

@PurpleChrayn I hope your family stay safe, you must be so worried for them.

ssd · 01/10/2024 19:53

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No, an example of the lack of compassion for Israel and the Jews who want to comfort their own.

NumberNotRecognised · 01/10/2024 19:57

drivinmecrazy · 01/10/2024 19:08

Well, I think Israel has played a blinder tonight.

They've goaded Iran into retaliatory action so they can now say that they can use all means at their disposal to defend themselves.

My Dad was involved in the defence business in the Middle East from 1980's through to the 2000's and had many dealings with multiple intelligence forces across the globe.
He always said that Israel was one nation you could never mess with. Their intelligence forces and military have always been considered the most vile outfit operating in that arena.

It's a shame they regard themselves as above other terrorist governments. They are no different.

The innocents are the Israeli people as much as Iranians, Lebanese and Palestinians.

Goaded Iran into taking ‘retaliatory action’ after a year of Hezbollah firing missiles into Northern Israel?

Hezbollah ‘defending’ Hamas after Hamas monstrously and brutally murdered and raped (and took hostage) Israeli civilian men, women, children and babies in their homes and hundreds of youngsters at a PEACE festival.

What fucking planet are you on?

It’s pretty sickening and actually scary how people are so blinded by hate, they defend the indefensible.

Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 19:57

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No.

But you’ve had many posts deleted for antisemitism, so I’m not willing to engage with you or debate your views on Israel on a thread that was created to discuss Israeli civilians following the attack by Iran.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 01/10/2024 20:01

Can there not be one thread expressing concern for Israelis, given that Iran has attacked tonight?

ssd · 01/10/2024 20:03

Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 19:57

No.

But you’ve had many posts deleted for antisemitism, so I’m not willing to engage with you or debate your views on Israel on a thread that was created to discuss Israeli civilians following the attack by Iran.

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Trying to portray me as antisemitic rather than have a meaningful discussion is pitiful.

Vivi0 · 01/10/2024 20:04

ssd · 01/10/2024 20:03

Trying to portray me as antisemitic rather than have a meaningful discussion is pitiful.

Truth hurts?

EasternStandard · 01/10/2024 20:06

ssd · 01/10/2024 20:03

Trying to portray me as antisemitic rather than have a meaningful discussion is pitiful.

Is your ‘truth hurts’ post really that though?

There are so many concerned people atm

anotherlevel · 01/10/2024 20:06

All of you saying this thread is for Israel - that's fine and I can sympathise with the fear that everyone there must be feeling. It's horrible and I'm sorry if anyone has any loved ones who are frightened, I hope they are safe. I hope all the innocent civilians are safe.

But how many of you have shown your empathy and support on all the other threads for the sufferings of the Palestinians and Lebanese and Syrian etc? The answer is not many, if not, none.

Everyday there's a new attack or people being killed in Gaza. They're suffering too. Their lives matter just as much as anyone else's.

Maybe some of you may now appreciate the feelings we have had about the lives of Palestinians and everyone elses as some of us have loved ones too who are terrified for their lives and trying to stay safe as best they can.

79Helene · 01/10/2024 20:08

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 01/10/2024 20:01

Can there not be one thread expressing concern for Israelis, given that Iran has attacked tonight?

Apparently not. A poster on the thread has family hiding in a bunker right now but it would seem some posters just see her as someone to antagonise and attack.

If it wasn't obvious before (it was) what posters are frothing antisemites, it certainly is now. I'm sure the rest will turn up soon.

Fescue · 01/10/2024 20:10

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NumberNotRecognised · 01/10/2024 20:15

TwilightSkies · 01/10/2024 19:14

There isn’t a genocide in Gaza or Lebanon because Israel are targeting specific terrorist groups.

No genocide? Tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children have been murdered. Schools, hospitals, refugee camps, ‘safe’ spaces……carpet bombed.

How can people STILL not understand why the (unverified) civilian death toll is high in a highly populated urban warfare combat zone where, strangely enough, the terrorist government likes to use their own civilians as human shields and needs their blood (says their leader) to further their cause which is why they deliberately started a war.

Although the combatant to civilian death ratio in Gaza is unprecedentedly low at 1:1.5 as opposed to 1:9 globally according to the UN. You do understand that sadly in a WAR people are killed which is why they really shouldn’t be started.

The genocide happened on Oct 7th.

HTHs.

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