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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli government, police and IDF treatment and dehumanisation of non-Jewish Israelis and Palestinians outside of Gaza

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Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 21:37

Apologies for the long title! There are so many awful things happening to the Palestinians in the West Bank, the Christians in Israel and others.

I thought there was already a thread detailing this but now can’t find it, apologies if I am missing it. Or it may have already been full.

Here is a clip of Israeli minister of finance, Bezelal Smotrich, vowing to topple Netanyahu’s government and calling for genocidal violence in the West Bank.
https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1797712255154549118?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 21:38

“Israel killed Adam Farraj in #Nablus today. Adam was supposed to celebrate his sister's marriage soon, but Israel killed him in cold blood.”

Warning - lots of blood in image - https://x.com/aselmousa/status/1797678499022717296?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 21:48

“In the occupied West Bank city of Nablus, Israeli forces drag the body of a Palestinian man they shot in the Balata refugee camp.

According to Red Crescent, at least six other Palestinians—one of whom is critically injured—have been hurt, including a child.”

https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1797710043846185154?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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malengring · 03/06/2024 22:01

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BelleHathor · 03/06/2024 22:10

Thanks @Finallyloggedin , the situation in the West Bank is just as dire. Settler violence, setting markets on fire, night raids etc.

LastTrainEast · 03/06/2024 22:17

Those sympathetic to the Germans in WWII were equally as upset when the UK (and others) bombed them, but we gave medals to those who did a good job of killing Germans.

#tip don't attack a well armed nation and take hostages to rape and murder later.

Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 22:17

“Israel detained journalist Rasha Hirzallah yesterday. Over 50 Palestinian journalists in the West Bank remain detained. Total number detained since the beginning of the genocide is over 80.”

https://x.com/nour_odeh/status/1797519412825915732?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 22:28

https://x.com/ajplus/status/1797493416676196859?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

A group of Israeli settlers wants to take this Palestinian family’s home in occupied East Jerusalem.

Israel’s Supreme Court ruled in the family’s favor in 2022 – but they’re now facing another “eviction” order.

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Kindatired · 03/06/2024 22:30

@malengring You’re right- no need to assume that twitter posts are verified.
Have a look at this though- confirms Smotrich happy to destabilise the West Bank and escalate there as well:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-urges-gaza-like-military-operation-in-west-banks-tulkarem-after-gun-attack/

And the shoot to kill of a suspect is reported by France 24 as well.Why not disable and arrest and send for trial I wonder? You have to ask how demolishing the local supermarket is going to improve Israel’s security situation.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240603-palestinians-say-israeli-forces-kill-two-in-west-bank
And I suppose the Red Crescent is agin you as well.
The Balata incident is reported in the Irish Examiner if 22 May. The age of the victims is not listed
But what I can’t understand is that only the Nee York times is reporting how settlers have been let take over 37,000 acres of Oaledtinian land since 7/10.

malengring · 03/06/2024 22:59

Kindatired · 03/06/2024 22:30

@malengring You’re right- no need to assume that twitter posts are verified.
Have a look at this though- confirms Smotrich happy to destabilise the West Bank and escalate there as well:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-urges-gaza-like-military-operation-in-west-banks-tulkarem-after-gun-attack/

And the shoot to kill of a suspect is reported by France 24 as well.Why not disable and arrest and send for trial I wonder? You have to ask how demolishing the local supermarket is going to improve Israel’s security situation.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240603-palestinians-say-israeli-forces-kill-two-in-west-bank
And I suppose the Red Crescent is agin you as well.
The Balata incident is reported in the Irish Examiner if 22 May. The age of the victims is not listed
But what I can’t understand is that only the Nee York times is reporting how settlers have been let take over 37,000 acres of Oaledtinian land since 7/10.

OP didn't post post a link to France 24 or the Irish examiner though. They posted a link to yet another pro-Hamas, pro-Assad, pro-Putin twitter account.

Finallyloggedin · 04/06/2024 09:54

Thank you@Kindatired , you have made the point that the news I shared was all correct and can also be found elsewhere.

I’m not sure why some posters have a problem with news about the atrocities being committed being shared. I wonder if one day they will regret trying to stop the truth being told.

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malengring · 04/06/2024 10:13

Finallyloggedin · 04/06/2024 09:54

Thank you@Kindatired , you have made the point that the news I shared was all correct and can also be found elsewhere.

I’m not sure why some posters have a problem with news about the atrocities being committed being shared. I wonder if one day they will regret trying to stop the truth being told.

I have no issue with news being shared. I have an issue with pro-terrorist twitter accounts being shared.

Rocknrollstar · 04/06/2024 10:44

And no mention in the media of Northern Israel being on fire because of th incendiaries fired by Hezbollah. Not everything one reads is ‘news’ or ‘true’. Hamas make a lot of it up. For example, they had to admit that Israel hadn’t bombed the hospital and also had to admit that the figures of fatalities was way below 35000

BelleHathor · 04/06/2024 10:51

Why did Hezbollah fire at Northern Israel? It was in response to the IDF using phosphorus to trigger fires in South Lebanon.

https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1797738617294721208

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Kindatired · 04/06/2024 13:47

@Finallyloggedin and @malengring
The problem is the suppression of the international press and the probable targeting of journalists by IDF in Gaza.@malengring . Twitter/x is the guy standing on a box on Hyde corner. He has his own agenda. Only the most naïve would not take this into account and assume that certain amount of spin has not been put on the account of the incident. But it doesn’t mean that that the events did not happen.
There is very little in the English language Israeli press about the events above apart from a feeble defence in the Times of Israel.
It is not in the Israeli government interests for Americans to see what suffering it is inflicting on Palestinian civilians.

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2024 14:04

A poster on another thread posted an Australian TV political question and answer show. On this, the Australian journalist Maher Mugrabi explained how misleading it was on one level to say there had been peace before Oct 7, because in the West Bank 2023 had been the most violent year since 2005. 80 children were killed alone!
https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1796452404822704352/mediaviewer

This link is thanks to @AhNowTed if I have remembered correctly.

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2024 14:07

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2024 14:04

A poster on another thread posted an Australian TV political question and answer show. On this, the Australian journalist Maher Mugrabi explained how misleading it was on one level to say there had been peace before Oct 7, because in the West Bank 2023 had been the most violent year since 2005. 80 children were killed alone!
https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1796452404822704352/mediaviewer

This link is thanks to @AhNowTed if I have remembered correctly.

The first link did not work. Try this:

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1796452404822704352?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

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ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2024 20:20

How corrupt this U.S. funding system is.
This is from Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)
The whole article can be found by putting the headline into archive ph.

Trump Is Desperate for Miriam Adelson's Cash. Her Condition: West Bank Annexation

The former president and convicted felon is holding a fire sale on future presidential authority. Miriam Adelson wants to be his biggest donor, but in return she wants Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank

She is an extremely rich donor.

Trump formerly ordered the US Embassy to be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to fulfil the bribe from her (now deceased) husband.

The New York Times broke the story that in 2016, after Trump won the Republican primary but was left without donors to face Hillary Clinton, Adelson offered him a deal: $20 million in exchange for moving the US embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. This was the beginning of a fruitful and rewarding relationship for both men. All in all, Adelson heaped over $90 million on Trump, the embassy moved to Jerusalem (against the advice of Trump's aides), and Adelson became Trump's most influential donor.

Finallyloggedin · 04/06/2024 20:35

@ScrollingLeaves oh my goodness, it’s just awful and never ending, isn’t it?

i saw a video of Trump greeting a famous boxer the other day. The boxer (sorry, I have no idea of the name but I will try to check) said to Trump “I know you will end the war on Gaza” and Trump replied “it’s over, it will end”. Which I imagine he has zero intention of actually doing, but the lies just roll off his tongue.

Not that Biden has been any better. They are just both awful and seem completely dead to the suffering they are causing, don’t they?

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ScrollingLeaves · 05/06/2024 14:19

From Haaretz (an Israeli newspaper)

National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir is bound and determined to escalate security tensions in the Middle East and is using every tool in his arsenal to foment war on additional fronts. As if the existing fronts and the existing military and diplomatic challenges Israel faces weren't enough, Ben-Gvir insisted – now of all times – on holding Jerusalem's annual Flag March along its usual combustible route, through the Old City's Damascus Gate and the Muslim Quarter. He himself is expected to participate, along with his activists, to ensure that provocations happen.

He is dragging Israel down.

Jerusalem Day: Haaretz Reporter Attacked by Right-wing Jewish Youth in Rampage Through Old City

Tens of thousands of people are expected to participate in the annual flag march, which will pass through Damascus Gate and the streets of the Old City's Muslim Quarter

Haaretz journalist Nir Hasson was attacked by youth taking part in Jerusalem's Flag Parade. Several assailants knocked Hasson to the ground and kicked him, until Border Police officers intervened.

Finallyloggedin · 05/06/2024 17:53

Alon-Lee Green: “We were beaten by settlers, the police detained us, there is no end to curses and threats - but we do not give up. Our presence here, Jews and Palestinians, in the humanitarian guard is important not only to protect the Palestinian residents of Old Jerusalem, but because it also shows the struggle for our society: a society of hatred and death, or of life and hope.”

https://x.com/alonleegreen/status/1798344641177432409?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“More and more violence from the settlers' march”

https://x.com/alonleegreen/status/1798348705176993838?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

”This is a video that can be difficult to watch, contains violence” -

https://x.com/alonleegreen/status/1798349151543202099?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Scirocco · 05/06/2024 18:17

@Finallyloggedin and that's the experience of people with an actual escort at points. The two hijabi ladies walking into that have no protection at all.

People are shouting genocidal references there.

TrickyRibbon · 05/06/2024 18:23

Not entirely sure why posting links to Hamas supporters accounts is fine, but pointing out that the links are to Hamas supporters accounts is not.

Finallyloggedin · 05/06/2024 18:46

“Haaretz journalist @nirhasson protects a Palestinian journalist from a mob during the religious right-wing "flag parade" in Jerusalem today.

Photo credit: Maya Levin @NPR

https://x.com/etanetan23/status/1798375359228100879?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 05/06/2024 19:16

https://x.com/orenziv_/status/1798354469195076077?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“Now in Damascus gate Jerusalem: right wing youth shout “may your village burn” towards media crews during the Flag March” Oren Ziv, 972 magazine

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ScrollingLeaves · 05/06/2024 21:13

Finallyloggedin · 05/06/2024 19:16

https://x.com/orenziv_/status/1798354469195076077?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“Now in Damascus gate Jerusalem: right wing youth shout “may your village burn” towards media crews during the Flag March” Oren Ziv, 972 magazine

In these videos of the flag parade
there seem to be a lot of very , very young men. A lot look almost like school boys. Is it a special group?

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