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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli government, police and IDF treatment and dehumanisation of non-Jewish Israelis and Palestinians outside of Gaza

136 replies

Finallyloggedin · 03/06/2024 21:37

Apologies for the long title! There are so many awful things happening to the Palestinians in the West Bank, the Christians in Israel and others.

I thought there was already a thread detailing this but now can’t find it, apologies if I am missing it. Or it may have already been full.

Here is a clip of Israeli minister of finance, Bezelal Smotrich, vowing to topple Netanyahu’s government and calling for genocidal violence in the West Bank.
https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1797712255154549118?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1797712255154549118?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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ScrollingLeaves · 13/06/2024 19:48

Vittuunterroristit · 13/06/2024 19:05

Just a couple of posts down from that one.

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1801256834893840707

They’ll see those Hamas fighters as protecting them, just as Israeli citizens think of the I.D.F. as protecting them.

Finallyloggedin · 14/06/2024 00:04

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1801267126956618150?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“Palestinian Parliament president Aziz Dweik (77 years old) before & after the IDF kidnapped, starved, tortured & held him in an unknown location for 8 months without charge or trial!

He was released today.

Do the sunken cheeks, hollowed eyes & pale skin remind you of anything?”

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https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1801267126956618150?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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keenforhelp · 14/06/2024 00:35

Finallyloggedin · 14/06/2024 00:04

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1801267126956618150?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“Palestinian Parliament president Aziz Dweik (77 years old) before & after the IDF kidnapped, starved, tortured & held him in an unknown location for 8 months without charge or trial!

He was released today.

Do the sunken cheeks, hollowed eyes & pale skin remind you of anything?”

@Finallyloggedin no - what does it remind you of?

Vittuunterroristit · 14/06/2024 12:34

ScrollingLeaves · 13/06/2024 19:48

They’ll see those Hamas fighters as protecting them, just as Israeli citizens think of the I.D.F. as protecting them.

And then people post that propaganda on x, and people post those x accounts on mumsnet.

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2024 13:43

Vittuunterroristit · 14/06/2024 12:34

And then people post that propaganda on x, and people post those x accounts on mumsnet.

Israeli soldiers have been using photos of themselves with guns, or blown up buildings or prisoners to get dates via websites. They have newer found it easier to get girlfriends.

I saw this on MN, and I saw the one of Hamas fighters getting adoration for the first time when you posted it, I think.

Isn’t it propaganda either way?

Vittuunterroristit · 14/06/2024 13:46

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2024 13:43

Israeli soldiers have been using photos of themselves with guns, or blown up buildings or prisoners to get dates via websites. They have newer found it easier to get girlfriends.

I saw this on MN, and I saw the one of Hamas fighters getting adoration for the first time when you posted it, I think.

Isn’t it propaganda either way?

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

And that certainly isn't the first account spouting Hamas propaganda that has been posted on here.

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2024 13:48

keenforhelp · 14/06/2024 00:35

@Finallyloggedin no - what does it remind you of?

It reminds me, without the need to refer to any particular episode in history, that we should all remember that no one, absolutely no one, is above abusing power over other people when they fall into their hands.

That we must all be on guard about the evil in ourselves even when, and especially when, we feel we are in the right.

keenforhelp · 14/06/2024 23:27

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2024 13:48

It reminds me, without the need to refer to any particular episode in history, that we should all remember that no one, absolutely no one, is above abusing power over other people when they fall into their hands.

That we must all be on guard about the evil in ourselves even when, and especially when, we feel we are in the right.

I'm sorry , but my question was addressed to @Finallyloggedin .

I would like to know what @Finallyloggedin was reminded of.

Februaryfeels · 14/06/2024 23:36

Finallyloggedin · 13/06/2024 18:32

https://x.com/suppressednws/status/1801260029514809488?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“This picture was taken and posted by an “innocent teenage girl” aka israeli soldier in April 2023, in the background, the image shows a female Palestinian kidnapped from the West Bank while being ziptied and blindfolded.”

But it doesn't show a kidnapped Israeli

It shows Fatima Shahin. Arrested for stabbing innocent Israelis

Februaryfeels · 14/06/2024 23:37

Sorry no edit on the app

It doesn't show a kidnapped Palestinian.

Arrested someone for attempted
Murder isn't kidnapping.

coralpinkduckegg · 15/06/2024 01:24

Rocknrollstar · 04/06/2024 10:44

And no mention in the media of Northern Israel being on fire because of th incendiaries fired by Hezbollah. Not everything one reads is ‘news’ or ‘true’. Hamas make a lot of it up. For example, they had to admit that Israel hadn’t bombed the hospital and also had to admit that the figures of fatalities was way below 35000

That was about 23 hospitals ago

ScrollingLeaves · 15/06/2024 01:24

Februaryfeels · 14/06/2024 23:36

But it doesn't show a kidnapped Israeli

It shows Fatima Shahin. Arrested for stabbing innocent Israelis

How do you know it is Fatima Shaheen?

The woman in the photo is sitting in a chair, but Fatima Shaheen was shot three times in the back and abdomen by the IDF, she was paralysed as a result, and she needs a wheelchair. So that is why I am asking.

She was not arrested for stabbing IsraeliS, but for allegedly attempting to stab one Israeli illegal settler in the West Bank, who was not harmed* in April 2023.

It is not impossible, that the IDF /settler story of what happened is misleading, as it is not unknown for them to collaborate in a lie, but perhaps she did what she was accused of. She was released in the December hostage deal. She is married and has a child.

The man whom she was convicted of attacking, Noam Anisfeld, wrote,

*But you failed 🤡. I pushed you back and a soldier neutralized you, and here I am stronger than before, while you stick to your wheelchair, a constant reminder that crimes have consequences. No worries, it's not the real payment, this will only come when you go to hell.”
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alantennenberg_fatima-shaheen-attempted-to-stab-noam-anisfeld-activity-7134639907540545536-MeWP

OhMaria2 · 15/06/2024 01:28

malengring · 04/06/2024 10:13

I have no issue with news being shared. I have an issue with pro-terrorist twitter accounts being shared.

Aaaaand those other hospitals?

EasterIssland · 15/06/2024 07:27

ScrollingLeaves · 15/06/2024 01:24

How do you know it is Fatima Shaheen?

The woman in the photo is sitting in a chair, but Fatima Shaheen was shot three times in the back and abdomen by the IDF, she was paralysed as a result, and she needs a wheelchair. So that is why I am asking.

She was not arrested for stabbing IsraeliS, but for allegedly attempting to stab one Israeli illegal settler in the West Bank, who was not harmed* in April 2023.

It is not impossible, that the IDF /settler story of what happened is misleading, as it is not unknown for them to collaborate in a lie, but perhaps she did what she was accused of. She was released in the December hostage deal. She is married and has a child.

The man whom she was convicted of attacking, Noam Anisfeld, wrote,

*But you failed 🤡. I pushed you back and a soldier neutralized you, and here I am stronger than before, while you stick to your wheelchair, a constant reminder that crimes have consequences. No worries, it's not the real payment, this will only come when you go to hell.”
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alantennenberg_fatima-shaheen-attempted-to-stab-noam-anisfeld-activity-7134639907540545536-MeWP

The dates don’t match either.

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1801498875934478828

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https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1801498875934478828

ScrollingLeaves · 15/06/2024 12:33

EasterIssland · 15/06/2024 07:27

That is interesting. Who started the spread of this misinformation that that blindfolded and tied up woman is Fatima Shaheen, I wonder? A random person getting hold of the wrong end of the stick, or the IDF themselves?

Februaryfeels · 15/06/2024 14:04

I knew Easter island would come up with the twitter goods 🤣

Finallyloggedin · 15/06/2024 15:11

“Israeli snipers in the West Bank killed 7 innocent Palestinian bystanders “even though the streets were quiet and the soldiers had no cause to open fire,” Israeli media reports.”

https://x.com/omarbaddar/status/1801941149931753888?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog Images of Haaretz news report.

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Finallyloggedin · 15/06/2024 15:15

https://x.com/resist_05/status/1801851096039887139?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

”US/Palestinian citizen Morgan Totah says Israel is using food and water as a weapon of ethnic cleansing..

Israel has cut off ALL Water in West Bank and even though Ramallah is built on 2 of the largest water aquifers they have no access.

LIFE IS UNTENABLE UNDER OCCUPATION..🇵🇸💔”

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EasterIssland · 15/06/2024 16:20

Februaryfeels · 15/06/2024 14:04

I knew Easter island would come up with the twitter goods 🤣

Nah Israel propaganda.

ps the link I’ve posted belonged to the thread @Finallyloggedin had posted above. I didn’t have to search much.

ScrollingLeaves · 16/06/2024 08:46

Finallyloggedin · 15/06/2024 15:11

“Israeli snipers in the West Bank killed 7 innocent Palestinian bystanders “even though the streets were quiet and the soldiers had no cause to open fire,” Israeli media reports.”

https://x.com/omarbaddar/status/1801941149931753888?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog Images of Haaretz news report.

Thank you. What happened is appalling. It certainly appears to be a case of gratuitous ‘pass the time’ wanton murder on the part of the IDF.

The full account can be found with this title iin Haaretz (Haaretz is Israeli)

The full article is worth reading to get an idea of what has been going on.

In a Single Hour, Israeli Snipers Killed Seven Bystanders at the Jenin Refugee Camp

Mounds of rubble in the Jenin refugee camp; once again mounds of rubble in the Jenin camp. A putrid stench rising from sewage flowing in the streets, dirt paths, streets reduced to pits and heaps of stones. The refugee camp was rehabilitated amazingly with a donation from the United Arab Emirates in 2002 following the Israel Defense Forces' incursion that spring. But now there isn't a street that hasn't been razed by IDF bulldozers, not a public square that hasn't been reduced to rubble, along with many stores that have been destroyed.

The IDF has <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/rHAkE/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-05-23/ty-article/12-palestinians-killed-25-wounded-in-israels-two-day-jenin-operation/0000018f-a536-df13-a3af-b536d3a80000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">raided the camp and the city in which the camp is situated multiple times recently; every incursion leaves behind dozens more killed or wounded. It looks as though the soldiers would rather be in the Gaza Strip and are compensating themselves by behaving in Jenin as though that's where they were. In "<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/rHAkE/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/twilight-zone/2023-12-08/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/idfs-incursions-are-more-frequent-and-violent-the-jenin-refugee-camp-is-now-little-gaza/0000018c-452b-dc19-a3ae-dfefb3b10000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Little Gaza," as the Jenin refugee camp is known these days, the images speak for themselves. Two armed militants on a moped pass us in the wrecked alleyway, despair hangs palpably in the air.

Jenin has endured plenty of rough days lately, but May 21 outdid them all. In the course of one hour in the morning, snipers killed seven of the city's residents, all of them innocent passersby, even though the streets were quiet and the soldiers had no cause to open fire. They shot from high up in two buildings, called Rabia and A-Rein, just outside the camp, and the dead included two teenagers and the director of the surgical ward at the Jenin Governmental Hospital, who was just getting out of his car in the hospital's parking lot.

And if that bloodbath wasn't enough, just hours later, at dusk, soldiers burst into the Jenin home of Wafa, a 51-year-old social activist who had never been arrested before, ransacked the house and took her with them when they left. She remained in their jeep, bound, for about four hours. Then, as the vehicle started to move out toward their base, it exploded (apparently after a device was thrown at it), leaving the woman seriously wounded; both legs were subsequently amputated above the knee. She is hospitalized in serious condition in Jenin's Ibn Sina Hospital, ventilated and barely responsive.

A single day in Jenin. This week we walked through the streets of the city and the alleyways of the refugee camp in the wake of the events of May 21.

Dr. Osaid Jabareen lived in a fine stone house in the city's al-Marah neighborhood, together with his wife, Haneen Jarrar, 41, and their five children, aged 4 to 16. He attended medical school in Leningrad, when the Russian city still bore that name, and did a residency in Amman, the capital of Jordan. Dr. Jabareen, 50, was the director of the surgical ward at the Shaheed Dr. Khalil Suleiman Governmental Hospital. Over the years he operated on thousands of people wounded by the IDF in the city and the camp. His late father, Kamal, was a professor of geography at Bir Zeit University, adjacent to Ramallah, and also lectured at Princeton and Harvard. His cousin is attorney Hassan Jabareen, the general director of Adalah – The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel. His family has its origins in the city of Umm al-Fahm, in northern Israel.

Dr. Jabareen was the first of the fatalities in Jenin on May 21. Soon after dropping off his children at their respective schools and kindergarten, he arrived at the hospital. He got out of his car in the parking lot and had walked 16 meters – measured by Abdulkarim Sadi, a field researcher for the Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem – when suddenly, with no prior warning, he came under fire. A bullet struck him in the back, slamming into his spinal cord, killing him on the spot.

On the slain doctor's balcony, which overlooks the city and its refugee camp, his brother, attorney Qais Jabareen, a resident of Jordan, says that the Red Crescent logo was pasted on the windshield of the car in addition to a sign: "Doctor on call." "If I were a sniper I would have seen those identifying marks of a physician," his brother says, adding that Aseed never belonged to any political organization and that his only interest was his work as a surgeon. Over the years he turned down offers to work in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. "He had a commitment to the wounded of Jenin, who couldn't afford to pay and would come to the governmental hospital," Qais says.

His brother was rushed from the parking lot into the hospital – but all the physicians there could do was to pronounce their colleague dead. His son Kamal, a fine-looking boy of 5 named for his grandfather, arrives on the porch with a bashful smile. He already knows what happened to his father.

Sadi's investigation found that the streets were quiet at the time, and that no one was aware that undercover snipers had taken over two rooftops in the city as the platforms for their killing spree. After investigating the background of all seven of those who were killed in the first hour, Sadi's unequivocal conclusion is that all were innocent civilians who were shot for no reason.

Minutes after they shot the physician, the snipers shot and killed Allam Jaradat, a 48-year-old teacher who was on his way to the school where he taught; Amir Abu Amira, 21, and his uncle, Moamar Abu Amira, 50, both of whom tried to come to Jaradat's aid; Mahmoud Hamadna, 15, who was shot about 100 meters from the site of the physician's killing as he was riding his electric bike on the way home from school (when it became known that snipers were in the city classes were canceled and the students were sent home); another teenager, Osama Hajeer, 16, who worked as a delivery boy; and – the last of the snipers' victims in the first hour – Bassem Turkman, a passerby of 53.

According to Sadi, the Israeli special forces had never before killed with such indiscriminate abandon. By the end of the day, the IDF would kill another three people, two of whom were in fact wanted individuals. In the course of the day, some 50 residents of the city were wounded, some of them seriously. One of them was Anton Zubeidi, who belongs to the camp's best-known family of fighters. Sitting in the entrance to Ibn Sina Hospital in black attire is the father of the family, <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/rHAkE/www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-01-12/ty-article-opinion/.premium/warmth-and-courage-in-the-jenin-refugee-camp/00000185-a2b0-d926-a187-bafe4f350000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jamal Zubeidi, one of the most amazing, courageous and tragic figures of the Jenin camp, someone who has been featured in many of these columns over the years.

Over the last year and a half, Jamal has buried two of his sons: Hamudi, who was killed on November 29, 2023, and Naim, killed almost exactly a year earlier, on December 1, 2022. Jamal's other son, Yusuf, is in administrative detention – imprisonment without charges or a trial – and now Anton, his eldest son, is seriously wounded. Anton's cousin, Zakaria Zubeidi, who was like a brother to him while growing up, is the most famous figure in the family, having served as the leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in Jenin during the second intifada. During that same period, Zakaria's two brothers and his mother were killed.

Initially, there were fears for Anton's life, because he had lost so much blood. Now he's recovering in room 208 of Ibn Sina Hospital, still unable to stand on his legs.

Anton, 38, was walking from the camp to his job as an automotive glazier in the city's industrial zone. He had just passed the refrigerator of the cadavers in the hospital's east wing when he heard the gunfire that killed Dr. Jabareen. Frightened, he quickly retraced his steps back the short way toward the camp.

It was 7:50 A.M. A bullet struck his right leg, shrapnel sliced into his back. Falling to the ground, he began to crawl in search of shelter. Finally he hid behind a tree and waited about 20 minutes, wounded and not daring to budge.

In the meantime, Anton also called his father, who immediately summoned a Red Crescent ambulance. "We're on the way," they told Jamal. But the shooting continued, and the ambulance arrived only 20 minutes after Anton was shot. He was bleeding profusely, and according to Jamal the ambulance was shot at even after his son was in the vehicle. The driver managed to reach the nearby Governmental Hospital, but because of the seriousness of Anton's wound, he was transferred to the more advanced and better-equipped Ibn Sina Hospital.

It is in fact a polished, impressive institution. In our visit this week, we were ushered into a smartly designed modern office, where we were presented with an overview of the hospital before proceeding to room 208. Anton and his wife, Asma, have three children, with a fourth on the way. This was not the first time he's been wounded, and he has already undergone several operations here. He lost a lobe of one lung after being shot by an army drone. When he was 14 he was in a car in the camp when soldiers opened fire on the vehicle, killing the driver before Anton's eyes. On the other hand, he's the only member of the family who's never been arrested, other than very briefly last December. His father was worried that he wouldn't get his medications in prison, but fortunately Anton was released after three days without being charged.

The daughter and brother of Wafa, the social activist who was abducted and had to have her legs amputated, enter Anton's room. (They asked not to be identified by name.) They show us photographs of the destruction the soldiers wrought during a search of their home. Wafa continues to be hospitalized in the intensive care unit of Ibn Sina. Her family hasn't been given any information about the circumstances in which she was wounded, and there were no witnesses. Initially it was decided to leave her in administrative detention, but after nine days of hospitalization at Haemek Hospital in Afula, where her legs were amputated, she was transferred to the hospital in Jenin. Her family say that at first they were told that her condition was less serious than it actually is.

They add that the soldiers who came to the house to take Wafa behaved roughly and that there wasn't one female soldier among them, as is customary when an Arab woman is being arrested, even by the IDF. Her husband, Abd el-Jaber, has been incarcerated without trial for some months, and his administrative detention was recently extended by an additional four months.

Besides the double amputation, Wafa is suffering from internal injuries. Being on a ventilator makes it impossible for her to speak – her family is unclear about her mental state and they don't know if she is aware that she has lost both legs. "If it was an explosive device, how is it that only she was wounded and not a single soldier?" they ask.

Jamal Zubeidi leaves his son's room in the hospital with the aid of his heavy walker, and we drive to his home in the camp. The scenes along the way are grim, and an oppressive silence is felt in the car. It was also Jamal who led us through the refugee camp when it was destroyed by the IDF 22 years ago.

The IDF Spokesperson said in response to a request for comment: "During an operation to thwart terrorism in Jenin, which lasted about 40 hours, defense forces exchanged fire with armed terrorists, dozens of whom were hit. During the operation, army forces identified a large number of armed assailants hiding in civilian areas, like the Jenin Governmental Hospital. The circumstances under which uninvolved civilians were hit are under investigation."

TheBlueQuail · 16/06/2024 08:57

Why won't hamas return the hostages, the survivors (and bodies)? They brutally murdered, raped, mutilated, humiliated so many innocent people for no reason. Why can't they return the rest and negotiate. We don't hear this in the press, only what Israel is doing to try to get them back and eradicate the terrorist organisation. Terrible situation for the normal people dragged in. All because of hamas

BelleHathor · 16/06/2024 09:40

Thanks for the article Scrolling.
Absolutely appalling, evil behaviour by those IDF soldiers.

It's seems that it is endemic, here is a tweet thread about a Haaretz article on :
...Some excerpts from an article in Ha'aretz from two months ago (yeah, I have a huge backlog) about "shooting & crying"-type religious "leftist" soldiers and their experiences in Gaza......"Once, a rabbi (who came to lecture) from Kiryat Arba in the West Bank said we need to destroy and shoot everyone, and that the IDF's (rules of engagement) ethics are a "Distorted Western Morality""
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1801964715565895826.html

Thread by @ireallyhateyou on Thread Reader App

@ireallyhateyou: 🧵1/10 Some excerpts from an article in Ha'aretz from two months ago (yeah, I have a huge backlog) about "shooting & crying"-type religious "leftist" soldiers and their experiences in Gaza. In the ph...…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1801964715565895826.html

Kindatired · 16/06/2024 10:22

Vittuunterroristit · 14/06/2024 12:34

And then people post that propaganda on x, and people post those x accounts on mumsnet.

Twitter is twitter.
But this shows why it’s not possible to eliminate Hamas. The IDF would like to be seen as liberating Gaza from Hamas but instead its brutality is fostering support for Hamas. If there is a ceasefire and Hamas have to deal with the practical issues of collecting rubbish and fixing the roads, it will not be long before their popularity wanes.

ScrollingLeaves · 16/06/2024 13:02

BelleHathor · 16/06/2024 09:40

Thanks for the article Scrolling.
Absolutely appalling, evil behaviour by those IDF soldiers.

It's seems that it is endemic, here is a tweet thread about a Haaretz article on :
...Some excerpts from an article in Ha'aretz from two months ago (yeah, I have a huge backlog) about "shooting & crying"-type religious "leftist" soldiers and their experiences in Gaza......"Once, a rabbi (who came to lecture) from Kiryat Arba in the West Bank said we need to destroy and shoot everyone, and that the IDF's (rules of engagement) ethics are a "Distorted Western Morality""
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1801964715565895826.html

Thank you very much @BelleHathor
What an important article. It covers so much that it is hard to know where to begin, but one thing that stands out to me is the crucial reminder to those who are shocked by how this war is being carried out, is that there are Jewish people involved who are thoughtful, moral, bravely self-questioning, highly intelligent, and reflective. Of course, think of all the great Jewish thinkers there have been through history.
There will be similar people among the Palestinians. The hope would be that these voices become more empowered.

This was s from the end of the article:

The more violent and the more you believe in war, the more authentic a Jew you are; when you talk about peace, you become Westernized," Schwartz says of perceptions in his military milieu. "However, there are prominent voices and rabbis in Jewish literature and thought that offer a completely different view." Today, the establishment sees the Amalek affair as one in which every Arab is guilty and no one is innocent, "as the language that continues Jewish tradition." And then the Jewish canon, Schwartz painfully says, turns into "semi-Hamas."

Many religious reservists, like Schwartz and A., enlisted to protect their homes and families, and in the hope of freeing the more than 250 Israelis who were initially abducted to Gaza. They did not embark on a journey of revenge and destruction. Their battle, when they return to their old lives, is twofold: against the religious community that rejects peace, and against the leftist camp that rejects faith.

The struggle of religious leftists is perhaps the most revolutionary one in Israel today, as it reveals the complexity of Jewish power, and demands an answer to it. After 75 years of independence, including five decades of occupation, Israel doesn't know what to do with its power over the land: Whether to strengthen it at the expense of repressing millions of Palestinians, who will never be deterred and will resist violently; to use it for restraint; to create a horizon for peace or any reality that deviates from the present one.

They have an opportunity to offer a genuine alternative to Israeli-Jewish supremacy – exactly because they use religious language to debunk and expose the lie of a religious far-right ideology. They could be the only effective challengers to the idea that Israel's existence can only be interpreted as an oppressive apartheid regime, paving a new route away from war, death and never-ending pain.

Finallyloggedin · 16/06/2024 17:54

Thanks @ScrollingLeaves and @BelleHathor , really enlightening (and horrifying) articles.

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