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Conflict in the Middle East

Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

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mids2019 · 14/05/2024 15:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

It appears Jews are not safe in the UK at all.

Can we seriously look at the impact of anti semitism now?

Police at the home of one of the men arrested over an alleged terror plot

Three in court over alleged plan to attack Jewish community

Three men are accused of planning a gun attack on the Jewish community in North-West England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

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Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 22:48

Just curious as to who exactly Starmer has expelled for you to consider him to be an anti-Semite? Like, who did he expel for being Jewish?

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:54

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 22:48

Just curious as to who exactly Starmer has expelled for you to consider him to be an anti-Semite? Like, who did he expel for being Jewish?

Google is your friend. You'd be surprised by how easy it is to find this information.

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 22:57

Coming onto this thread, talking about dictator antisemite Starmer weaponising antisemitism and expecting us to believe that when you said his Jewish wife would be happy to be richer and for Israel to benefit it’s because everyone would like to be richer and because she has family in Israel and not because you get a little thrill out of dropping in antisemitic tropes and then claiming wide-eyed innocence.

Your deniability is supposed to be plausible.

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 22:59

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:54

Google is your friend. You'd be surprised by how easy it is to find this information.

Oh ok because when I googled I found a few people who are Jewish who were expelled but I couldn't find a single example of someone being expelled for being Jewish. And the reasons I could find for people being expelled all seemed reasonable, like attending antisemitic conferences etc. So I'm not quite sure what you're on about to be honest.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:01

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HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:02

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 22:59

Oh ok because when I googled I found a few people who are Jewish who were expelled but I couldn't find a single example of someone being expelled for being Jewish. And the reasons I could find for people being expelled all seemed reasonable, like attending antisemitic conferences etc. So I'm not quite sure what you're on about to be honest.

Google harder then!

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:04

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:02

Google harder then!

Should I wait for you to quickly write some Wikipedia entries to support your false statements before I Google? I'll be going to bed soon but I can give you maybe 10 minutes to create some evidence for your allegations.

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 23:04

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I think it’s pretty obvious what you’re up to, tbf.

Hélène79 · 20/05/2024 23:05

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It's like "antisemitism whack-a-mole here".

🤔

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:05

Hélène79 · 20/05/2024 23:05

It's like "antisemitism whack-a-mole here".

🤔

I know, sounds so familiar!

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 23:06

Yes. Not subtle.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:06

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:04

Should I wait for you to quickly write some Wikipedia entries to support your false statements before I Google? I'll be going to bed soon but I can give you maybe 10 minutes to create some evidence for your allegations.

You're asking me to provide you with information that is easily google-able. It is not up to me to do your googling for you... and if you're not a good enough googler that is not my fault. I am not obliged to provide the googles, am I?

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 23:07

Stop trying to make people do work for you.

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:08

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:06

You're asking me to provide you with information that is easily google-able. It is not up to me to do your googling for you... and if you're not a good enough googler that is not my fault. I am not obliged to provide the googles, am I?

Oh ok so we can all just throw out false accusations and then tell people to Google the ungoogleable? That's fun!

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:24

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:08

Oh ok so we can all just throw out false accusations and then tell people to Google the ungoogleable? That's fun!

It's not false though... that's the point. Shouldn't we all be concerned at the number of Jewish people starmer has accused of being antisemitic?

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 23:25

No.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:25

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:05

I know, sounds so familiar!

Oh god, what now? 🙄

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:25

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 23:25

No.

Why not?

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:27

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:24

It's not false though... that's the point. Shouldn't we all be concerned at the number of Jewish people starmer has accused of being antisemitic?

Not if they said or did something antisemitic, no. We saw proof on this board just yesterday that Jewish antisemites exist.

And unless you can actually back up your claims, I'm just going to go ahead and keep assuming they're false.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 23:29

Humdingerydoo · 20/05/2024 23:27

Not if they said or did something antisemitic, no. We saw proof on this board just yesterday that Jewish antisemites exist.

And unless you can actually back up your claims, I'm just going to go ahead and keep assuming they're false.

OK I guess ignorance is bliss! Whatever works for you.

Hagpie · 20/05/2024 23:37

I remember reading years ago that anti-Semitic hate crimes were increasing anyway. Then on top of that COVID happened, and instead of just getting vaccinated, my socials were awash with “Jewish people rule the world and it’s an evil plot to…”

It would be naive of us to assume the UK is not an anti-Semitic place. I am very critical of the Isreali government but we have to admit that people are using it as a cover for bigotry. This needs to be rooted out at an institutional level.

HelenHen · 21/05/2024 06:19

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Humdingerydoo · 21/05/2024 06:24

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The definition of antisemitism doesn't include not allowing any questioning of the state of Israel. Stop spreading misinformation in an attempt at stirring up more outrage and hatred.

Humdingerydoo · 21/05/2024 06:26

And don't get me started on your use of the word "races". What race do you think all Jews are, exactly?

EllaDisenchanted · 21/05/2024 06:38

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So you are saying antisemitism figures are inflated because of conflation with criticism of Israel? so it’s not really so bad, because a lot of the numbers are just Jews crying ‘antisemitism!’ every time Israel is criticized? On a thread about an arrest of individuals who actively planned a mass massacre of Jews?

If anything, anecdotally, the numbers are more likely severely underreported. My friend had a difficult incident where her primary school age kids were targeted in a playground through the gates by kids in a school abutting the playground, and verbally harassed. She did not report. The numerous incidents I experienced growing up, I did not report. We are both very visibly religious Jews. Most Jews are so resigned to it, we don’t bother to report. It is almost a feature of life. You’re speaking about something that you have no lived experience of.

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