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Conflict in the Middle East

This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...

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changefromhr · 23/02/2024 22:06

I know there are lots of pictures. I try to avoid looking as its just so awful but this one couldn't be avoided.

How sickening that the soldiers can smile and act so happy in front of all that destruction.

This is just another picture, from the thousands, that shows how the Palestinians and their lives and homes are seen as worthless.

This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...
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ssd · 08/03/2024 08:51

People here can't fathom that most posters have sympathy for the innocent civilians murdered, injured or taken hostage on both sides.

Its beyond their narrative. But it says everything about them.

Scirocco · 08/03/2024 08:52

whatsitcalledwhen · 08/03/2024 08:40

Disgusting behaviour too, posing on top of what is essentially a mass grave of murdered civilians.

Did you assume that those of us who think the selfie picture of IDF soldiers smiling was disgusting would refuse to condemn a photo of a soldier celebrating the deaths of Jewish people?

I don't understand why you think that.

I quite agree. Absolutely disgusting.

PeasfullPerson · 08/03/2024 16:29

ssd · 08/03/2024 08:51

People here can't fathom that most posters have sympathy for the innocent civilians murdered, injured or taken hostage on both sides.

Its beyond their narrative. But it says everything about them.

I agree @ssd It’s as if people have to be shoe horned into supporting a side, and couldn’t possibly care about humanity in general. It’s not a mutually exclusive situation, it’s possible to care about Palestinian and Jewish lives.

OneMerryRedSnail · 08/03/2024 18:31

@ConnieCounter "If you want to ignore the atrocities that Israel is carrying out then that's your choice. I'm not going to argue with people who justify atrocities against civilians."

You need to check the meaning of "atrocities" before launching into such hyperbolic rhetoric.
They include murder, torture, sexual violence, enslavement, persecution, hostage taking & enforced disappearance.
Hamas are guilty of all of these, Israel is not.

On 26/2/24 Israel submitted a report to the ICJ, as requested, concerning it's compliance with the Provisional Orders of the above Court and no further action has been taken.

Scirocco · 08/03/2024 18:42

Actually, @OneMerryRedSnail I can think off the top of my head of examples of 6 of the 7 things you've mentioned there, that have happened to people in Palestine by Israeli forces and settlers.

OneMerryRedSnail · 08/03/2024 18:49

Scirocco · 08/03/2024 18:42

Actually, @OneMerryRedSnail I can think off the top of my head of examples of 6 of the 7 things you've mentioned there, that have happened to people in Palestine by Israeli forces and settlers.

What you and I think is irrelevant.

It's how the ICJ rules that matters.

Scirocco · 08/03/2024 19:00

OneMerryRedSnail · 08/03/2024 18:49

What you and I think is irrelevant.

It's how the ICJ rules that matters.

After decades of indifference from most of the world, I'm well aware that my thoughts and experiences and the thoughts and experiences of innocent people in Palestine are taken as irrelevant by most of the world. Maybe we get justice when we die. We certainly can't expect it in this life any more.

ConnieCounter · 08/03/2024 19:21

OneMerryRedSnail · 08/03/2024 18:31

@ConnieCounter "If you want to ignore the atrocities that Israel is carrying out then that's your choice. I'm not going to argue with people who justify atrocities against civilians."

You need to check the meaning of "atrocities" before launching into such hyperbolic rhetoric.
They include murder, torture, sexual violence, enslavement, persecution, hostage taking & enforced disappearance.
Hamas are guilty of all of these, Israel is not.

On 26/2/24 Israel submitted a report to the ICJ, as requested, concerning it's compliance with the Provisional Orders of the above Court and no further action has been taken.

Israel does most if not all of those things. Do you watch the news ever?

whatsitcalledwhen · 08/03/2024 19:26

@OneMerryRedSnail

You shared a photo earlier and seemed to imply that people wouldn't condemn it because it was of horrors committed against Israelis.

I responded as follows:

"Disgusting behaviour too, posing on top of what is essentially a mass grave of murdered civilians.

Did you assume that those of us who think the selfie picture of IDF soldiers smiling was disgusting would refuse to condemn a photo of a soldier celebrating the deaths of Jewish people?

I don't understand why you think that."

You seemed to post it as a sort of 'gotcha' moment that would highlight hypocrisy but can you see now that myself and others are absolutely disgusted by it, just as we are disgusted by the IDF selfie picture the thread was about?

OneMerryRedSnail · 08/03/2024 20:53

whatsitcalledwhen · 08/03/2024 19:26

@OneMerryRedSnail

You shared a photo earlier and seemed to imply that people wouldn't condemn it because it was of horrors committed against Israelis.

I responded as follows:

"Disgusting behaviour too, posing on top of what is essentially a mass grave of murdered civilians.

Did you assume that those of us who think the selfie picture of IDF soldiers smiling was disgusting would refuse to condemn a photo of a soldier celebrating the deaths of Jewish people?

I don't understand why you think that."

You seemed to post it as a sort of 'gotcha' moment that would highlight hypocrisy but can you see now that myself and others are absolutely disgusted by it, just as we are disgusted by the IDF selfie picture the thread was about?

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Quite frankly, I lost interest when people started to assume they could read my mind and then made judgements based what they thought I was thinking!

I really don't have time or the inclination to unravel the convoluted logic that keeps appearing on some of these threads.

Scirocco · 08/03/2024 21:48

@OneMerryRedSnail why did you post it then if it wasn't of interest to you?

whatsitcalledwhen · 08/03/2024 23:56

@OneMerryRedSnail

If multiple people thought you were thinking something then maybe your post read as such?

Your post was provocative in that it was designed to shine a light on double standards or hypocrisy. It's very silly to suggest otherwise when your words were based on what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Instead of the double standards or hypocrisy you clearly expected, people showed sympathy and empathy for the Israeli victims, just as they did for Palestinian victims.

Hopefully it has made you realise that many people's motivation for posting isn't anti semitism, it's sympathy and empathy for all victims. Whatever their nationality, ethnicity or religion.

EasterIssland · 10/03/2024 21:06

A picture with Palestinian women and children getting kicked out to Rafah.

probably this poor naive young man was too distressed and the background was quite far so he didn’t realise what was happening behind him either

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1766916410737852802

This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...
ConnieCounter · 10/03/2024 21:07

EasterIssland · 10/03/2024 21:06

A picture with Palestinian women and children getting kicked out to Rafah.

probably this poor naive young man was too distressed and the background was quite far so he didn’t realise what was happening behind him either

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1766916410737852802

That entire thread is hideous.

EasterIssland · 10/03/2024 21:10

Israeli soldiers taking a group picture with kidnapped Palestinians from the city behind them.

These poor naive young ones as well didn’t realised that miles away behind them there are 3 Palestinians

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1766582097404137482

This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...
Auvergne63 · 11/03/2024 10:48

Dibilnik · 07/03/2024 11:30

Oh, come off it. This sort of thread is as pointless and offensive as if I were to post photos of Gazans celebrating in the streets on 8 October and ask you to comment.

Then I would denounce it, loud and clear. I would not try to defend it because you cannot defend that type of behaviour. Full stop.

Parkingt111 · 11/03/2024 11:52

To counter some of the rubbish pictures we have seen, here is one of resilience. Amongst the rubble of a bombed mosque in Gaza, some of the Palestinians led their first evening prayer on the first eve of Ramadhan.

This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...
anotherlevel · 11/03/2024 12:25

Parkingt111 · 11/03/2024 11:52

To counter some of the rubbish pictures we have seen, here is one of resilience. Amongst the rubble of a bombed mosque in Gaza, some of the Palestinians led their first evening prayer on the first eve of Ramadhan.

Beautiful photo ❤️

stormy4319trevor · 11/03/2024 13:53

@Parkingt111 That's a very moving picture.

Parkingt111 · 11/03/2024 17:06

@stormy4319trevor I thought so too, prayers for better days in this blessed month
Hope you have been well

stormy4319trevor · 11/03/2024 17:43

@Parkingt111 All is well with me, hope you are well too. Salaam, Ramadan Mubarak, (i hope that's the correct greeting.)

Parkingt111 · 11/03/2024 18:42

@stormy4319trevor it is and thank you! 💐

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 13/03/2024 01:02

EasterIssland · 10/03/2024 21:10

Israeli soldiers taking a group picture with kidnapped Palestinians from the city behind them.

These poor naive young ones as well didn’t realised that miles away behind them there are 3 Palestinians

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1766582097404137482

This young, naive soldier also didn't know there was a kidnapped Palestinian right behind him.

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1767526884449853807

EasterIssland · 13/03/2024 07:04

Pics of few more naive young men that are distraught because they’re in a war
https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1767681700102897723

Scirocco · 13/03/2024 07:45

Some of these photos look like stag weekend paintball parties.

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