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Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.

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floodlightonwhatisright · 20/12/2023 16:23

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12878659/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-marches-intimidate-British-Jews-tolerate-hatred-streets.html

He raises some interesting ideas.

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Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:50

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:38

So you fully admit you are not offended by anti-Semitism.

Read my post and stop with the baiting. As I said, I’ve got a hell of a lot more to be offended about at the moment than just words. People are being murdered every hour, that’s where my headspace is right now.

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:55

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:50

Read my post and stop with the baiting. As I said, I’ve got a hell of a lot more to be offended about at the moment than just words. People are being murdered every hour, that’s where my headspace is right now.

I did. You said that having "A curse upon the Jews" as a slogan is not offensive ergo anti-Semitism is not offensive.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:55

I think some people don't understand the difference between free speech and hate speech

They don't understand that free speech in the UK does not allow people to discriminate, spread hate speech or racism. That is the law in the UK and I think some people really need to start looking back over their posts on different threads especially their posts in the last 48 hours or so

Also frankly it just is very unpleasant and nasty to discriminate against others on the grounds of race, religion or nationality and we have see a lot of that. However I don't think the posts all understand that this is what they are doing. Though some definitely do understand and are enjoying getting away with it.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:56

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:55

I did. You said that having "A curse upon the Jews" as a slogan is not offensive ergo anti-Semitism is not offensive.

Yep

plusjamais · 31/12/2023 17:03

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:01

I suppose that is, but the rest of it is not. I was taking the whole statement, not cherry picking the bit you are offended by.

Come again?

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 17:15

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:56

Yep

No, you are doing what you always do, you are baiting and twisting words.
I can agree or disagree with a statement, or choose not to refer to it. I did not write the statement, I did not post the statement, I was merely expressing an opinion on parts of it that I wanted to express an opinion of.

If you have a problem with the statement, then take it up with whichever group wrote it.

There are a certain group of posters on here who seem to constantly trot along and dissect every single word of anyone who does not agree with them or jump on you if you don’t say everything. Should we start all our statements with “I condemn Hamas” just in case you think we are sympathisers ? We didn’t say it so it must be true. Yeah I see you.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 17:17

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 17:18

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Limeandsodaontherocks · 31/12/2023 17:21

I’m off too. Happy New Year - and here’s to a better 2024 for the innocent people on both sides of the conflict .

basculin · 31/12/2023 17:27

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 17:15

No, you are doing what you always do, you are baiting and twisting words.
I can agree or disagree with a statement, or choose not to refer to it. I did not write the statement, I did not post the statement, I was merely expressing an opinion on parts of it that I wanted to express an opinion of.

If you have a problem with the statement, then take it up with whichever group wrote it.

There are a certain group of posters on here who seem to constantly trot along and dissect every single word of anyone who does not agree with them or jump on you if you don’t say everything. Should we start all our statements with “I condemn Hamas” just in case you think we are sympathisers ? We didn’t say it so it must be true. Yeah I see you.

One poster asked if you think the group with that slogan is antisemitic and you said no. It's really that simple. No one is twisting your words, that's what you said.

stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 17:48

@Livinginanotherworld 'I see you' is such a pointless thing to say.... no one on here is hiding.

Totallymessed · 31/12/2023 19:01

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 15:03

No I’d say they were anti-oppression, anti-apartheid, anti the US and Israel constantly destabilising and meddling in M.E. Affairs.

Death to America, is not anti-Semitic, it’s a call to the US to keep their nose out of their countries business and oil reserves. If Israel was any other state doing the same, the results and call outs would be the same, the fact they are jewish is not the problem, it’s the fact they are the occupied forces and they are oppressing them.

I think @Livinginanotherworld 's post here is important to take note of, and I actually hope it doesn't get deleted. Every now and again a poster lets their mask slip and everyone gets to see exactly what is going on behind the obfuscations and gaslighting. A Hamas sympathiser, at best.

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 20:35

Totallymessed · 31/12/2023 19:01

I think @Livinginanotherworld 's post here is important to take note of, and I actually hope it doesn't get deleted. Every now and again a poster lets their mask slip and everyone gets to see exactly what is going on behind the obfuscations and gaslighting. A Hamas sympathiser, at best.

Odfo ……how predictable

Totallymessed · 31/12/2023 21:39

Well....

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.
stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 21:50

@Totallymessed oooooh I have one of those too.

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.
Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 01:55

stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 17:48

@Livinginanotherworld 'I see you' is such a pointless thing to say.... no one on here is hiding.

Plus out of all the users on the conflict board I am probably one of the hardest to miss and lay it all out their about who I am and what I think because I post like I talk. TO MUCH😁

I do love the idea that some posters have tried to discredit me lately by hinting I have an agenda or make stuff up. It is quite amusing to me becauseall anyonehas to do is scroll back through the thread and see the previous posts. It also means they find chatterbox me a bit worrying.

Apparently I am hitting to many nails on target with my rambling analysis of their posts and I must not ask questions too. Not sure everyone on mumsnet understands that this is one of the things you do on mumsnet.

(Just to make it clear I am not talking about any one poster but a few different ones)

Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 02:13

Seen as people were talking about the Yemen's Houthi fighters:

In NYC are yesterday at a protest chanting for Yemen’s Houthi terrorists to “make us proud”.

https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1741577556820734263

https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1741577556820734263

Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 02:14

These terrorist fighters

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.
Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 02:20

I mean who wouldn't shout in the street for these lovely people to make us proud

SARCASM!

Seriously are these people just useful idiots that can't even use Google to research who they are supporting or are they evil fuckwits that just don't care, so long as it suits their own agenda.

Unbelievable, truly unbelievable

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.
Itsalmostherenow · 01/01/2024 10:10

Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 02:13

Seen as people were talking about the Yemen's Houthi fighters:

In NYC are yesterday at a protest chanting for Yemen’s Houthi terrorists to “make us proud”.

https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1741577556820734263

So they are suggesting a terrorist organisation who wishes death to America makes them proud. In New York of all places. Arrest the lot of them, terrorist supporters. Disgusting.

Itsalmostherenow · 01/01/2024 10:12

Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 02:20

I mean who wouldn't shout in the street for these lovely people to make us proud

SARCASM!

Seriously are these people just useful idiots that can't even use Google to research who they are supporting or are they evil fuckwits that just don't care, so long as it suits their own agenda.

Unbelievable, truly unbelievable

They are useful idiots but also dangerous and delusional since terrorists have their support. The poor little hard done by terrorists would end them if they visited. I wish they could be rounded up and sent to Yeman.

noblegiraffe · 01/01/2024 10:14

stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 21:50

@Totallymessed oooooh I have one of those too.

I really didn't think it was that difficult of a question. And yet the wrong answer.

I note that the poster who I originally put the question to has decided not to answer despite returning to the thread.

How difficult can it be to say 'yes, these people who say 'a curse upon the Jews' while doing a Hitler salute are antisemitic'? How wedded to the idea that one side is good and the other side is bad must you be to refuse to admit anything wrong with 'your side'?

stomachameleon · 01/01/2024 11:02

@Itsalmostherenow I wish that upon all the 'useful idiots' to see what welcoming committee they would get.

quantumbutterfly · 01/01/2024 13:02

stomachameleon · 01/01/2024 11:02

@Itsalmostherenow I wish that upon all the 'useful idiots' to see what welcoming committee they would get.

Indeed.
I wonder why these useful idiots think tearing their own society apart will help anybody, let alone people hundreds of miles away in distance, experience and belief.
I have heard of so many peace activists working for solutions practically, on the ground, Many were targeted on 7th Oct.
It will be a wonderful day when there are more people working for peace together than inciting division and hatred.
Wishing you all a peaceful and safe new year.

Trulywonderful · 01/01/2024 13:17

quantumbutterfly · 01/01/2024 13:02

Indeed.
I wonder why these useful idiots think tearing their own society apart will help anybody, let alone people hundreds of miles away in distance, experience and belief.
I have heard of so many peace activists working for solutions practically, on the ground, Many were targeted on 7th Oct.
It will be a wonderful day when there are more people working for peace together than inciting division and hatred.
Wishing you all a peaceful and safe new year.

Totally agree with you it will be a wonderful day if it can happen

Best wishes for the new year to you as well xxxx

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