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Conflict in the Middle East

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.

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floodlightonwhatisright · 20/12/2023 16:23

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12878659/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-marches-intimidate-British-Jews-tolerate-hatred-streets.html

He raises some interesting ideas.

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noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 15:44

stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 14:56

@noblegiraffe hmmmm. That's seems pretty clear.

You would have thought so, but no.

It must be a tricky one for those desperate to split the world into goodies and baddies on the basis of their support for Palestine.

Or maybe not so much?

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 15:48

basculin · 31/12/2023 15:28

You definitely did hint that. And you kept saying you're not going to say it outright because you know that would cross the line and get you banned.

Any explanation on how "A curse upon the Jews" isn't anti-Semitic?

You totally misunderstood me, I said I wasn’t going to say it outright because “ you don’t talk about an alternative perpetrator of 9/11 “ I was implying that there were ‘several’ countries involved, to bring it all together needed contacts from several countries. If it makes you happier as I stand by what I believe, the main perps were the secret services of three different countries.

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 15:50

@Livinginanotherworld please can you explain how “a curse upon the Jews” isn’t antisemitic?

basculin · 31/12/2023 15:56

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 15:48

You totally misunderstood me, I said I wasn’t going to say it outright because “ you don’t talk about an alternative perpetrator of 9/11 “ I was implying that there were ‘several’ countries involved, to bring it all together needed contacts from several countries. If it makes you happier as I stand by what I believe, the main perps were the secret services of three different countries.

Sure hun. I've read the kind of theories you're alluding to, particularly the ones involving Larry Silverstein. I know exactly what you're really trying to say.

So anyway, which three countries and why?

And why is saying a curse upon thr Jews now anti-Semitic?

stomachameleon · 31/12/2023 16:01

@Desertrose2023 of course I am not denying them but what I am saying to you is that it's not clear cut. That is true... than one thing can be true you know?
And it's not 'akin' because you say it is. That's an observation.

What about the Hebron massacre and the grand mufti Al-Husseini begging hitler to support an Arab 'revolt' to eliminate the existence of Israel and the British/ French in 1941?

Almost Seven years before the Arab-Israeli war did exactly as they said they would do and bringing 5 Arab nations to gang up on Israel.

It wasn't a spontaneous attack they had been planning the genocide of Israel for years.

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:01

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 15:50

@Livinginanotherworld please can you explain how “a curse upon the Jews” isn’t antisemitic?

I suppose that is, but the rest of it is not. I was taking the whole statement, not cherry picking the bit you are offended by.

Limeandsodaontherocks · 31/12/2023 16:05

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:01

I suppose that is, but the rest of it is not. I was taking the whole statement, not cherry picking the bit you are offended by.

This is unbelievable ….

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:07

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:01

I suppose that is, but the rest of it is not. I was taking the whole statement, not cherry picking the bit you are offended by.

You suppose. Fucking hell.

"A curse upon the Jews" is part of the whole statement. An important part. You said that the Houthis aren't anti-Semitic when it's literally part of their official slogan.

Oh and as for the you are offended by part? Everyone should be offended by that.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:10

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Not my argument and not saying it was always the case, however stomach isn't totally wrong. I have a shed load of information about it and various Arabs leaders have said the same over the years. Some people were told told different things to convince them to leave easily and not give to much of an argument. Being told they would get financial reward after was just one method of many.

Anyway like I say not my conversation between yourself and stomach

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.
Limeandsodaontherocks · 31/12/2023 16:11

Livinginanotherworld
Maybe the clue is in the user name ? You really are living in another world …. an entirely fabricated one.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:14

RoastSquash · 31/12/2023 12:25

You’ve dragged this over from the “OMG Israel is so evil you guys, here’s a Tiktok about it” thread, to an unrelated discussion about antisemitism but you forgot to mention that that poll was taken less than 2 weeks after the Hamas attack, before the catastrophic scale of the IDF response was evident and from a group of about 600 respondents.

I thought the same about the poster dropping this poll onto this thread

Thank you for more information and context about the poll. Thatvis useful to know

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:20

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:07

You suppose. Fucking hell.

"A curse upon the Jews" is part of the whole statement. An important part. You said that the Houthis aren't anti-Semitic when it's literally part of their official slogan.

Oh and as for the you are offended by part? Everyone should be offended by that.

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I’m offended by the genocide of Gaza, I’m offended the illegal occupations in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan. I’m offended by the mass killing of innocent woman, children and babies. I’m offended by Netanyahu and his murdering scum IDF.
I’ve got more to be offended about than just words at the moment.
I’m saving my sympathy for the dead and wounded and their families ON BOTH SIDES !

You don’t get to choose what offends me, I don’t get to choose what offends you.

ChalkWitch · 31/12/2023 16:23

@Livinginanotherworld I’m offended by you frankly.
’cherry picking’. Astonishing.
And in true MN style ODFOD.

Berl29 · 31/12/2023 16:25

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noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 16:26

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:01

I suppose that is, but the rest of it is not. I was taking the whole statement, not cherry picking the bit you are offended by.

I am struggling to formulate a response to this.

what the fuck?

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:26

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Interesting writing of historical facts you have going on there. However it does explain why Arabs on the land were killing Jews for hundreds of years before that. Even in the hundred years just before before 1948 when Israel was declared a State there was torture, rape, land stolen, villages burnt to the ground and murders.

Just some examples: Safed looting 1834, Hebron massacre 1834, Attack on Safed 1838, Jaffa deportations 1917, Attack on Tel Hai 1920, Jaffa riots 1921, the riots 1929, the riots in 1936.

Please try not to write history yourself or copy dodgy stuff from Jew haters on social media. The land dispute and the fact that the Arabs and the Jews would kill each other once the British left the Mandate was why the international community wanted the land divided. The original Mandate included Jordan and Israel.

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 16:28

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2023 14:19

Their slogan is "Allah is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam"

And they do the Hitler salute.

Do you think they are antisemitic?

@Berl29 can you answer this please?

Trampoliningskills · 31/12/2023 16:28

It's been apparent for weeks now, that several posters are keeping their accounts, when they should have been banned long ago. So not only are Jews being told that the Israelis killed their friends, not Hamas, ie apache attacks but Americans are being gaslit into believing 9/11 was orchestrated by the USA. To make bold statements that seek to cause the maximum upset to those citizens, who lost loved ones AND to keep being allowed to post, says something is seriously wrong with the moderation on here.

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 16:31

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Feel free to go back the thread that’s actually discussing totally unbiased and not at all manipulative SM posts rather than continuously trying to derail this one.

Trampoliningskills · 31/12/2023 16:32

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You clearly don't know the definition of murder.

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:37

ChalkWitch · 31/12/2023 16:23

@Livinginanotherworld I’m offended by you frankly.
’cherry picking’. Astonishing.
And in true MN style ODFOD.

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And that is your prerogative. We are both just randoms off the internet, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it if I was you.

basculin · 31/12/2023 16:38

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:20

I’m offended by the genocide of Gaza, I’m offended the illegal occupations in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan. I’m offended by the mass killing of innocent woman, children and babies. I’m offended by Netanyahu and his murdering scum IDF.
I’ve got more to be offended about than just words at the moment.
I’m saving my sympathy for the dead and wounded and their families ON BOTH SIDES !

You don’t get to choose what offends me, I don’t get to choose what offends you.

So you fully admit you are not offended by anti-Semitism.

quantumbutterfly · 31/12/2023 16:40

Some posters remind me of the far side cartoon.....miss, my brain is full.
The more I see of the situation in Gaza the more blindingly obvious the evil agenda of Hamas. I'm truly disturbed to see it played out on the streets of UK & Europe.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 16:45

Trampoliningskills · 31/12/2023 16:28

It's been apparent for weeks now, that several posters are keeping their accounts, when they should have been banned long ago. So not only are Jews being told that the Israelis killed their friends, not Hamas, ie apache attacks but Americans are being gaslit into believing 9/11 was orchestrated by the USA. To make bold statements that seek to cause the maximum upset to those citizens, who lost loved ones AND to keep being allowed to post, says something is seriously wrong with the moderation on here.

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Totally unbelievable isn't it

I think the posts in the last 48 hours on different threads have got more into what radicalisation looks like too. The conspiracy theories and blatant agreement with known Jew killers is pretty shocking.

It has gone past the moderation team not being trained well enough to spot sly conspiracy theories or slippery antisemitic posts. People now are posting things that are very transparent and blatant to everyone not just the Jewish posters

Livinginanotherworld · 31/12/2023 16:46

Trampoliningskills · 31/12/2023 16:28

It's been apparent for weeks now, that several posters are keeping their accounts, when they should have been banned long ago. So not only are Jews being told that the Israelis killed their friends, not Hamas, ie apache attacks but Americans are being gaslit into believing 9/11 was orchestrated by the USA. To make bold statements that seek to cause the maximum upset to those citizens, who lost loved ones AND to keep being allowed to post, says something is seriously wrong with the moderation on here.

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You see, we don’t live in North Korea, we are allowed freedom of speech. We are allowed to have opinions which are ‘not the party line’. Maybe you would be happier moving somewhere like that so you are not offended by life. Ffs 🙄

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