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Conflict in the Middle East

Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.

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floodlightonwhatisright · 20/12/2023 16:23

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12878659/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-marches-intimidate-British-Jews-tolerate-hatred-streets.html

He raises some interesting ideas.

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Trulywonderful · 10/01/2024 22:07

stomachameleon · 10/01/2024 21:53

That's my membership cancelled then....

Didn't you know about that already? It was a couple od years ago and quite a stink

saveallthewhales · 13/01/2024 12:56

Activists waving Palestine flags, chanting and lighting flares converged on Queen Victoria Street for a planned march towards Parliament Square as they continue to call for a ceasefire in war-torn Gaza.
Some activists wearing masks of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were seen holding bloodied dolls up in the air in a bid to highlight the innocent lives being caught up in the Middle East war.

Ahead of today's march, the Government has also advised that anyone who yells 'Jihad' while protesting should be arrested on sight.

Around 1,700 police officers from the Met and other UK forces have been mobilised amid fears the escalating tension in Yemen will bring more activists to the streets of the capital.
A 'significant policing presence' will be seen this weekend, with the Met also drafting officers in from outside of London. Activists who 'intentionally push the limit' on placards and slogans are warned they face arrest.
Home Secretary James Cleverly said he had been briefed by the Met's commissioner Sir Mark Rowley on plans to 'ensure order and safety' during the protest.
'I back them to use their powers to manage the protest and crack down on any criminality,' the MP said.

'Anyone of reasonable mind would know this and I am strongly of the view that people who are chanting 'jihad' should be arrested. I think the scale of pressure this is putting on the police is really concerning.
'The build-up of rest days are going to have to be paid back and it will come out of other frontline policing priorities.
'If it's really the case that this drumbeat of mass protest is going to continue then we risk the public being significantly more exposed to crime as a result of it.'

There have been repeated examples of placards, banners and other items being carried or worn, or statements being chanted, that have 'crossed the line' into religiously or racially aggravated offences or crimes under the Terrorism Act, the force added.

Lord Walney insisted he is not claiming every mass protest 'should come with a price tag' but said it was 'reasonable' to look for a way to tackle the huge policing cost.

By mid-December, the Metropolitan Police alone had deployed up to 2,000 officers to the capital every weekend since Hamas invaded to tackle the marches, which is said to have cost the tax payer an estimated £20 million.
Appearing before MPs last month, the force's assistant commissioner Matt Twist warned that the weekly Saturday marches had caused the 'greatest period of sustained pressure on the Met since the Olympics in 2012'.
He added that 28,000 officer shifts had been dedicated to the events and a further 1,600 borrowed from other forces. A total of 5,500 rest days were axed with 6,000 hours used to investigate alleged hate crimes.

According to the Telegraph, an extract submitted read: 'The number of marches being organised around the Israel-Hamas conflict, the scale of these marches, and the behaviour of some protesters means that a great amount of police resource is being directed to these protests.'
It went on to say that 'when groups run so many mass protests, the authorities should consider whether organisers should be asked to contribute to policing costs'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12958941/More-200-000-Pro-Palestinian-marchers-set-descend-London-today-Yemen-airstrikes-expected-raise-tensions-1-700-police-mobilised-government-advise-saying-yelling-Jihad-arrested-sight.html

More than 200,000 Pro-Palestinian marchers march through London

Some 1,700 police officers from the Met and other UK forces have been mobilised amid fears the escalating tension in Yemen will bring more activists to the streets of the capital.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12958941/More-200-000-Pro-Palestinian-marchers-set-descend-London-today-Yemen-airstrikes-expected-raise-tensions-1-700-police-mobilised-government-advise-saying-yelling-Jihad-arrested-sight.html

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 13:05

I wonder if in light of recent events whether people on these marches will be more reticent to vocalise their support for the Houthi attacks on shipping, or more likely to.

quantumbutterfly · 13/01/2024 13:54

If their placards said 'free Palestine from hamas' I would be more sympathetic.

plusjamais · 13/01/2024 15:40

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 13:05

I wonder if in light of recent events whether people on these marches will be more reticent to vocalise their support for the Houthi attacks on shipping, or more likely to.

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1746172344043794696

"Yemen Yemen make us proud turn another ship around"

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1746179263064097146

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1746179263064097146

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 15:47

Oh dear god how stupid are these people.

However, they are not stupid enough to use the word Houthi.

Perhaps they should think over why they are reluctant to name exactly who they are supporting and why they are hiding it.

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:16

@saveallthewhales if there are going to be regular protests that require a large police presence I see no reason why they shouldn't be billed.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 16:16

They've invaded a McDonalds.

The endless mind numbing stupidity.

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:17

@noblegiraffe will they all be arrested then? It's dangerous to be in London when these are on.

gloriagloria · 13/01/2024 16:25

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:16

@saveallthewhales if there are going to be regular protests that require a large police presence I see no reason why they shouldn't be billed.

It is our democratic right to protest against our government that we believe is complicit in killing thousands of innocent civilians in a pointless conflict that stands no chance of achieving it's stated aim of destroying Hamas. There will always sadly be people who jump on a bandwagon with extreme or dangerous ideas or hatred, and obviously they should face the full force of the law, but it should not impact our right to protest.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 16:27

What's your opinion of people chanting support for the Houthis, @gloriagloria ?

plusjamais · 13/01/2024 16:29

I genuinely can't get my head round the Houthi Yemen support by these utter simpletons. Aside from the civil war they started, the enforced sexual slavery of Ethiopian migrant women is horrendous. How do the 'but Houthis killed nobody...shut down colonial feminism' crowd square all this.

gloriagloria · 13/01/2024 16:29

@noblegiraffe - I personally find it completely bizarre and inappropriate.

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:29

@gloriagloria that doesn't negate what I am saying though. I don't mind protests and I agree it's our right. Been when our rights mean a massive police force to ensure other people are safe and business's can stay open then bill the people organising them.
Especially when they are busing people in to attend.

quantumbutterfly · 13/01/2024 16:31

Did I hear that football clubs contribute funds to policing their events?
Seems only fair to get a contribution from the organisers of these events , they are very disruptive.

gloriagloria · 13/01/2024 16:33

@stomachameleon - This has always been the case with large ongoing protests (stop the war etc.) and yes it will cost, but it is part of the fabric of our society and we can't start charging people to exercise their democratic rights.

plusjamais · 13/01/2024 16:34

Did I hear that football clubs contribute funds to policing their events?

Yeah they do, for their own grounds.

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:34

@quantumbutterfly they pay a fee I believe.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 16:34

Maybe we could have a Bellend Tax for marches where the organisers get a refund if no one is a bellend.

plusjamais · 13/01/2024 16:35

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2024 16:34

Maybe we could have a Bellend Tax for marches where the organisers get a refund if no one is a bellend.

Haha yes!

stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 16:37
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saveallthewhales · 13/01/2024 16:50

gloriagloria · 13/01/2024 16:33

@stomachameleon - This has always been the case with large ongoing protests (stop the war etc.) and yes it will cost, but it is part of the fabric of our society and we can't start charging people to exercise their democratic rights.

@gloriagloria You can if "the behaviour of some protesters means that a great amount of police resource is being directed to these protests."

QueenRania · 13/01/2024 17:07

Amazing turnout again at the march. I have some family and friends that have gone. Handful of arrests from what I have read out of the thousands there. The right to protest should be protected at all costs. The moment we start imposing restrictions and threatening to bill we are heading down a slippery slope. If our government wants to be complicit in the current genocide then don't complain when people come out to protest. We don't agree and we will continue to speak for what is right.

quantumbutterfly · 13/01/2024 17:14

Amazing? Not the word I would choose.

Genocide? Also not the word I would choose.

But we are heading down a slippery slope to somewhere.

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