Horrors of violence towards women on October the 7th suppressed

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67613153

It looks like the UN may have been reluctant to investigate or highlight the sickening sexual violence committed on October 7th. It also appears some of the hostages may have been abused.

Was this because the horrendous violence doesn't fit in with that purely Palestinians are victims of this ongoing conflict? Are investigations into these crimes because women are viewed as second class citizens or the revelations 'muddy the waters' where some just want to see one side as the victim.

So you don't believe the Israeli women.

And you are suggesting that the IDF's actions in some way compare to those of Hamas. For which you've given no evidence.

The mind boggles.

Yes, men don’t see it as important. They just do not.

There’s never been a rapeless war or conflict ever, so it’s ridiculous really to think Hamas did/is doing no rape. As laughable as saying the IDF did/is doing no rape.

To most men, the ones that are honest and don’t prevaricate and do lip service, it’s like being shocked that people get shot with real bullets and children get blown up with bombs during a war. They have a so what? Get over it attitude.

I don’t agree with this, but that’s the world we live in, not the world we should have.

@TwilightSkies derailing why? Does the topic make you uncomfortable?

There is a clear agenda to prevent these Hamas threads from being a place for constructive debate.
Why on earth some just cannot condemn the terrorists, without any proviso, I dread to think.

And of course the IDF is not opposed to allowing its own soldiers to be raped by prisoners. Ex-soldier: My commanders 'handed me over' to be raped by jailed terror convict | The Times of Israel

‘I NeEd aN iNdePenDaNt SouRcE to VerIfY RaPE’

jeez. Some of you are sick.

How is this relevant to the thread?

Perfectly sums it up, my friend. 👌

So you don't believe the Israeli women.

And you are suggesting that the IDF's actions in some way compare to those of Hamas. For which you've given no evidence.

The mind boggles.

No, I meant complaining that Israeli women should be believed but Palestinian women shouldn’t be believed is hypocritical.

Every thread

Whatabout.

@Docmcstuffins2020 can you link to 'thousands of women make that complaint about the IDF' please? Verify it for me with individual accounts and footage? Or just the headcam worn by the IDF soldiers will be ok. For the thousands....

Israel was the subject of a brutal day of massacre. Whether they should have seen it coming or not, plastered it all over twitter with close ups of corpses, people crying and screaming whilst they scrapped the bodies up is their choice. People forget that bodies have to be buried all together if possible and ideally within 24 hours. People are inflicted their idea of what Israel should or shouldn't do or the PR game it should play because THEY demand answers. How rude.

Independent news teams where in Israel. Jeremy Bowen was with the IDF and reported. Matt frei was there. Ghoulish behaviour wanting them peering over the bodies. Would that make it ok then?

The Un have already released a statement. It's done. No question. Shame on you that you would doubt a woman whose pelvis has been broken? Or says she has been raped. Yeah #metoo... except when your Jewish

There just aren't enough of these
🙄

You are wishing for an echo chamber, debates involve back and forth of differing opinions.

Why on earth some just cannot condemn the terrorists, without any proviso, I dread to think.

Which terrorists are you referring to? The Israeli army they is committing genocide??

This has just been reported by the bbc

Hamas planned sexual violence as weapon of war - Israeli campaigner www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67613153

@MercanDede
The thread title is quite clear.

Debate around whether and indeed why some of the details of what happened to these women in 7 October has been suppressed/downplayed, etc

But what about....... is not debate

Look up the definition of terrorists.
The clue is in the word.

I was unaware the Israeli army had been designated as a terrorist organisation

Did I miss that?

Well this thread has gone on a very predictable direction, hasn't it?

Some people are really uncomfortable with acknowledging how bad Hamas actually are.

There just aren't enough of these

It is though.
We’ve got the ‘I NeEd aN iNdePenDaNt SouRcE to VerIfY RaPE’ post

Then a few posts down we’ve got
“can you link to 'thousands of women make that complaint about the IDF' please? Verify it for me with individual accounts and footage? Or just the headcam worn by the IDF soldiers will be ok”

And I guess we’re not meant to notice they contradict each other. * *

For* what’s *its worth I do believe that the hostages were treated badly because look who took them hostage. The people who’d just committed mass murder. It’s just the whole “oh the IDF never hurt anyone, let’s see you prove it” kinda imply’s some posters don’t care if the victim happens to be Palestinian.

I think there are quite a few name changes, as well.
The posting pattern is hard to miss.

It's the echo Chambers, we are trying to
Escape.
The irony eludes many of you.