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Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians

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Finallyloggedin · 21/11/2023 13:11

It’s just heartbreaking. I’ve seen videos on twitter that are beyond anything I can even begin to describe. Palestinians are being murdered in their thousands and the western media is largely pretending it’s not happening.

The average age of the people who have been killed in Gaza is FIVE years old.

The UK media are not showing how the Israeli government is openly talking about, and cheerleading genocide now. Israeli government speaks about Palestinians as if they are not humans. They are saying women are targets as they can have babies. I’ve just read how, since October 7th they have taken over 5,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and tortured them. They were already routinely arresting Palestinians and taking them away from their family with no reason and no but this is not being adequately reported.

Please, please visit sites such as 972 magazine and declassified uk. The BBC, etc, unfortunately aren’t reporting the extent to what is going on.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

Israel and its allies are repurposing the goals and lies of 1948 – in Gaza in 2023

Israel is openly carrying out ethnic cleansing inside Gaza, driving Palestinians outside their homeland as happened in 1948. And yet, just as during the first “Nakba”, Israel's lies and deceptions dominate the West’s media and political narrative.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

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Stomacharmeleon · 21/11/2023 21:52

@LemonAidG you need to take the 'paid propaganda' up with Mumsnet.

LemonAidG · 21/11/2023 21:52

Stomacharmeleon · 21/11/2023 21:52

@LemonAidG you need to take the 'paid propaganda' up with Mumsnet.

I have, and some of the posts were deleted.

AboutYouTalk · 21/11/2023 21:53

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Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 21:53

Are you aware that the casualty figures the media are citing come from Hamas-affiliated media and services?
This is very, very significant and should make you pause before using words like "genocide".

TakeMe2Insanity · 21/11/2023 21:53

TakeMe2Insanity · 21/11/2023 21:15

Are you actually for real?

Every child, baby, woman, man in Gaza is that enough for Israel? No because they’ve now started on the West Bank.

The blatant propaganda comes from Israel. Soldiers literally dancing on peoples graves, making videos of people making fun of people actually suffering, having a good time and laughing, propaganda videos of kids singing cleanse the land! WTF.

How dare you try and understand the OP.

Replace understand with undermine.

final line

How dare you try and undermine the OP.

etmoiandme · 21/11/2023 21:55

@LemonAidG FFS. It's a public forum. I'm interested in this section of the board so I'm entitled to read it. I called you out on your remarks about Jewish Mumsnetter's. That's it. And I was talking to someone else there, not you.

Humdingerydoo · 21/11/2023 21:55

Chaitales · 21/11/2023 21:45

Why are posts about Palestinians constantly being forced to condemn Hamas or talk about the Israeili deaths first? Why can't we have a post condemning Gazan genocide without being accused of being terrorist sympathisers or not caring about Israeli deaths?

Really not sure why you tagged me / this comment of mine in this. I'm asking why Jews should be expected to discuss Gaza.

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 21:56

AboutYouTalk · 21/11/2023 21:53

Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • The footage of festival goers running (supposedly in the aftermath of the Hamas attacks) has been proven to be footage from a Bruno Mars concert in Tel Aviv, two days prior.
You're referring to one video that was circulated on Twitter, not the original footage used by the mainstream media outlets.
EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 21:57

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 21:53

Are you aware that the casualty figures the media are citing come from Hamas-affiliated media and services?
This is very, very significant and should make you pause before using words like "genocide".

We are. We are also aware about this

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 22:00

You know around 6k kids have been killed in the last month don’t you? Is this baby’s death worse than any of the Palestinian ones?

Humdingerydoo · 21/11/2023 22:02

I don't think this is the right place for this to be posted. There are plenty of dead babies in Gaza too. I don't think anyone can deny that.

May their souls rest in peace 😔 and may the hostages all be returned soon so this can all end

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:03

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 21:57

We are. We are also aware about this

Your screenshot means nothing.

Which human rights groups is it referring to? Amnesty? Amnesty has got in a lot of trouble over the years for its anti-Israel agenda.

And I would like a list of all of these media organisations that view Hamas-affiliated organisations as reliable information sources, and their track record of reporting on Israel.

Vox news, from which you have taken this screenshot, is itself is a radical Far Left outlet with blatant anti-Israel bias. They have a reputation for censoring the truth and lying on a daily basis.

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:03

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 22:00

You know around 6k kids have been killed in the last month don’t you? Is this baby’s death worse than any of the Palestinian ones?

Read the context please. I was specifically countering someone's comments labelling Hamas's murder of babies as fake news.

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:04

Humdingerydoo · 21/11/2023 22:02

I don't think this is the right place for this to be posted. There are plenty of dead babies in Gaza too. I don't think anyone can deny that.

May their souls rest in peace 😔 and may the hostages all be returned soon so this can all end

I wasn't saying that babies haven't died in Gaza! I was holding someone accountable for their claim that there is no evidence of what Hamas is doing to babies.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 22:05

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:03

Your screenshot means nothing.

Which human rights groups is it referring to? Amnesty? Amnesty has got in a lot of trouble over the years for its anti-Israel agenda.

And I would like a list of all of these media organisations that view Hamas-affiliated organisations as reliable information sources, and their track record of reporting on Israel.

Vox news, from which you have taken this screenshot, is itself is a radical Far Left outlet with blatant anti-Israel bias. They have a reputation for censoring the truth and lying on a daily basis.

I’ve put you another link from Reuters with names of organisations

ai might be anti Israel maybe cuz they’re reporting things that Israel shouldn’t be doing ? They’ve reported Hamas actions as well and British government

Girahim · 21/11/2023 22:05

LemonAidG · 21/11/2023 21:51

Why are you on this thread?

You do know that it's an open forum?

Humdingerydoo · 21/11/2023 22:06

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:04

I wasn't saying that babies haven't died in Gaza! I was holding someone accountable for their claim that there is no evidence of what Hamas is doing to babies.

Was that the 40 beheaded babies comment?

Sorry, I'm really not having a go at you. I just think pick your battles a little bit. That same poster is also saying all Jews are "white functioning" so I think we can safely dismiss everything they're saying as absolute BS and just ignore, to be honest.

Stomacharmeleon · 21/11/2023 22:07

Actually I look forward to the day none of us have things to post that include the death of children.

Girahim · 21/11/2023 22:07

Chaitales · 21/11/2023 21:45

Why are posts about Palestinians constantly being forced to condemn Hamas or talk about the Israeili deaths first? Why can't we have a post condemning Gazan genocide without being accused of being terrorist sympathisers or not caring about Israeli deaths?

That doesn't answer the question of why @LemonAidG in particular have to condemn Israel.

Mel1212 · 21/11/2023 22:07

These posts prove that it is so important to keep talking about the Palestinian cause. Thank you to everyone raising awareness.

The slaughter of innocent civilians and children has no justification.

Stomacharmeleon · 21/11/2023 22:07

@CharingX976 some things and posters are best treated with the contempt they deserve. @Humdingerydoo is right.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/11/2023 22:09

FOJN · 21/11/2023 21:20

Are the horrifying images of what's happening to Palestinian civilians also etched in your head?

A surgeon at one of the hospitals in Gaza had to amputate his own sons leg, without anaesthetic, yesterday. His child died anyway.

I'm sure we've all seen and heard enough horror to last a lifetime in the last few weeks but some people only seem to have empathy for one of the two groups. I'm appalled they the other groups suffering doesn't seem to count at all.

I think the vast majority of people find the suffering and death of innocent people unbearable, whatever country they are from.

CharingX976 · 21/11/2023 22:11

AboutYouTalk · 21/11/2023 21:53

Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Mumsnet has always attracted the pearl clutching middle class white women who disguise their utter contempt for people of colour. It's clear from this and other recent threads that there are more of them than I thought.

Also, are you aware that the majority of Israeli Jews are not white? They are mainly of Middle Eastern and North African descent. Only about 30% of Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi (descended from white Europeans...)

Not that that should even matter.

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