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Conflict in the Middle East

The cenotaph and poppy sellers

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LittleMooli · 10/11/2023 06:17

Hi, would anyone mind explaining to me why the media seems to be portraying that remembrance commemorations are being targeted by pro-palestinian protests? I don't really know enough to know how the two things are linked.

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MissyB1 · 11/11/2023 12:45

EasterIssland · 11/11/2023 12:30

Let’s get rid of the police as they’re useless. Let’s use the far right to protect the uk. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Well that’s what Suella has told the Country isn’t it? 😡

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 12:46

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/11/2023 12:38

Rioting at the cenotaph. On Atmistice weekend.

Ashamed to be English yet again.

You mean yelling England til I die doesn’t make you proud? What could be more patriotic.

Anyway, since they are there to protect the cenotaph, Tommy Robinson has led them up to Chinatown. This will surely not lead to issues.

starfleet · 11/11/2023 12:48

https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/status/1723308266275455274?t=SAKVppkTlY4ZSL-yGUHo6A&s=19

In China Town. You couldn't make this shit up. Do they know where they are? 🤦🏽‍♀️

https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/status/1723308266275455274?s=19&t=SAKVppkTlY4ZSL-yGUHo6A

MableT · 11/11/2023 12:48

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MCOut · 11/11/2023 12:49

Suella is an evil genius. Imagine understanding that there are certain people who really do feel that white Britishness must be the centre of everybody's motivations, and harnessing that to cause such strife.

starfleet · 11/11/2023 12:53

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No. It really isn't.

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MableT · 11/11/2023 12:56

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AboutYouTalk · 11/11/2023 12:57

PurpleChrayne · 10/11/2023 09:22

A pro-terrorism march on a day set aside to commemorate those lost in other wars against terror and fascism. Hardly appropriate.

Yawn.

AboutYouTalk · 11/11/2023 12:58

AdrianaLaCerva · 10/11/2023 09:30

Exactly @PurpleChrayne. So frustrating. The majority of these posters don’t have to actually face up to this intimidatory bullshit shutting down their streets, filling up tubes and chanting slogans in public transport on our way to work. They’ve got no idea how intimidating it is for ordinary people getting on with their lives. Let alone how frightening it must be for Jewish Londoners.

“Peaceful” - are these posters having a laugh or just deliberately blind to the chanting of terrorist slogans, intimidation of anyone not joining them.

Bore off with your attempt at inflaming the thread Suella.

SquirmOfEels · 11/11/2023 12:59

starfleet · 11/11/2023 12:48

https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/status/1723308266275455274?t=SAKVppkTlY4ZSL-yGUHo6A&s=19

In China Town. You couldn't make this shit up. Do they know where they are? 🤦🏽‍♀️

They're apparently (according to SKY) trying to find routes across to Hyde Park, and being prevented by police from moving on to any roads that might take them to the route.

I think they're a fucking disgrace.

OTOH today also saw the Lord Mayor's Show which was a celebration of diversity

Poor police - having two major events to deal with anyhow, and then twats like the EDF turning up

LittleMooli · 11/11/2023 13:02

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I really don't get what the engerland lot are doing!

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SquirmOfEels · 11/11/2023 13:03

Just seen the footage of right wing protestors trying to kick off at the Cenotaph, just before a service at 11:00. they're also being troublesome just off Parliament Square (currently being kettled near Portcullis House).

The march for Palestine is passing without incident.

Angrycat2768 · 11/11/2023 13:03

AboutYouTalk · 11/11/2023 12:57

Yawn.

I mean, why are fascists turning up to 'protect the cenotaph'- a memorial to all those who died fighting fascism? Are they just annoyed that some pro Palestinian protesters have nicked their Jew hating narrative?

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:05

Angrycat2768 · 11/11/2023 13:03

I mean, why are fascists turning up to 'protect the cenotaph'- a memorial to all those who died fighting fascism? Are they just annoyed that some pro Palestinian protesters have nicked their Jew hating narrative?

Since when have football fans been jew haters? BTW, maybe refer to the community as Jewish, its more civilised.

Westfacing · 11/11/2023 13:06

GB News are shits - just watched their headlines and they're showing footage of waving flags and red flares going off in Trafalgar Square - small writing in the top corner '4th November'.

Also, there was a 'little disruption' at The Cenotaph - if that had been pro-Palestinian marchers, instead of the Far Right, can you imagine the vitriol!

starfleet · 11/11/2023 13:06

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OK. Whatever you think 🙄

derxa · 11/11/2023 13:06

TodayInahurry · 10/11/2023 07:28

The marchers want to cause trouble and intimidate UK and Jewish people, they should be banned

Absolutely correct. Hopefully these marches will peter out when people move on to the next 'thing'.

LittleMooli · 11/11/2023 13:06

Westfacing · 11/11/2023 13:06

GB News are shits - just watched their headlines and they're showing footage of waving flags and red flares going off in Trafalgar Square - small writing in the top corner '4th November'.

Also, there was a 'little disruption' at The Cenotaph - if that had been pro-Palestinian marchers, instead of the Far Right, can you imagine the vitriol!

Sneaky footage

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SquirmOfEels · 11/11/2023 13:07

Angrycat2768 · 11/11/2023 13:03

I mean, why are fascists turning up to 'protect the cenotaph'- a memorial to all those who died fighting fascism? Are they just annoyed that some pro Palestinian protesters have nicked their Jew hating narrative?

Because they've got a load of invented bollocks in their tiny minds

There was no need to "protect" the Cenotaph - there were no demonstrators there whatsoever

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:08

LittleMooli · 11/11/2023 13:06

Sneaky footage

If that had been the FAR LEFT protestors, the police would be using kid gloves.

Angrycat2768 · 11/11/2023 13:08

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:05

Since when have football fans been jew haters? BTW, maybe refer to the community as Jewish, its more civilised.

They are EDL. A proportion of whom may be incidentally football fans. Apologies for the 'Jew' comment. I was using it the terms the far Right ( and far Left) themselves use. Also, ask Tottenham fans how many football fans are ' Jew haters'

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:10

Early yet, let's see how the day pans out. Hopefully, it will pass without incident.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 13:14

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:05

Since when have football fans been jew haters? BTW, maybe refer to the community as Jewish, its more civilised.

Football hooligans? For decades. Anti-senitism and neo-nazism are rife in these ‘supporters’ groups across Europe and Russia.

The idea that these people have turned for anything other than a fight and are defending anything is hilarious. The only reason they are there is because they hate Muslims as much as they hate Jewish people. It’s all a bit the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

MableT · 11/11/2023 13:17

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 13:14

Football hooligans? For decades. Anti-senitism and neo-nazism are rife in these ‘supporters’ groups across Europe and Russia.

The idea that these people have turned for anything other than a fight and are defending anything is hilarious. The only reason they are there is because they hate Muslims as much as they hate Jewish people. It’s all a bit the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

Yes I'm not surprised that's your narrative.