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Conflict in the Middle East

The cenotaph and poppy sellers

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LittleMooli · 10/11/2023 06:17

Hi, would anyone mind explaining to me why the media seems to be portraying that remembrance commemorations are being targeted by pro-palestinian protests? I don't really know enough to know how the two things are linked.

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DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 11:21

The irony of the right using Remembrance as an excuse to spread hate is unreal. People lost their lives in wars which supposedly were a part of protecting freedoms and supporting human rights, but then you get twats like this saying things like “obliterate them all” and “wipe them off the map”, all in apparent support of remembrance of the lives lost in war?

Suella really needs to answer for her dog whistle.

https://x.com/hellaethics/status/1723424171466608905?s=46

https://x.com/hella_ethics/status/1723424171466608905?s=46

MissAtomicBomb1 · 12/11/2023 11:35

SinisterBumFacedCat · 12/11/2023 11:11

The reason there is no poppy stand on 11 Nov is that they all close up - it's surprisingly hard to find a poppy to buy on the day.

False. There were lots of poppy sellers out yesterday. My local Tesco’s had Scouts and Guides selling them. It’s not like supermarkets running out of stock of Easter Eggs on Good Friday and just having empty shelves.

Yep, my children were selling them with the local scout group at the shopping precinct.
Not true at all that they were all closed up.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:38

Ohlalalalala · 12/11/2023 11:20

"Competitive grief"???

Are you comparing people protesting about Brexit with those calling for a stop to the genocide? Are you seriously comparing the two and are annoyed by people describing their shock and bewilderment at what's happening in Palestine and demanding a stop to the atrocities? Is this what you describe as "competitive grief"???

I hope I misread your post.

Here we go again. To start with, there is no genocide going on. And yes I am, this board is full of the most ridiculous one-upmanship of gloaters wailing about how distraught they are over whatever the latest fad is. Hamas and Israel don't care what you say.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 11:42

@Alltheprettyseahorses Well of course Hamas and Israel don’t care what we say - they’re the ones perpetuating this disgusting madness.

I’m sure the people who have had their homes obliterated, hospitals bombed and have been given four hour windows to flee from the threat of death would care that these conversations are happening though. When we look back on this in years to come, comments like your “there is no genocide going on” will be looked at with horror.

Ohlalalalala · 12/11/2023 11:47

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:38

Here we go again. To start with, there is no genocide going on. And yes I am, this board is full of the most ridiculous one-upmanship of gloaters wailing about how distraught they are over whatever the latest fad is. Hamas and Israel don't care what you say.

Now it's the "latest fad"?
I honestly can't find an appropriate response to your post, which I find devoid of humanity.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:53

Ohlalalalala · 12/11/2023 11:47

Now it's the "latest fad"?
I honestly can't find an appropriate response to your post, which I find devoid of humanity.

A critique of mumsnet drama llamas is devoid of humanity? Really? I'd advise some perspective.

structural · 12/11/2023 11:55

Ohlalalalala · 12/11/2023 11:47

Now it's the "latest fad"?
I honestly can't find an appropriate response to your post, which I find devoid of humanity.

Exactly. According to you everyone who isn't constantly shaking and crying and LITERALLY wants to vomit (emphasis yours) about what's happening is "devoid of humanity" or "lacking human empathy" or "insulting our humanity" or has "selective humanity" or whatever melodramatic phrase you come up with next.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:55

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 11:42

@Alltheprettyseahorses Well of course Hamas and Israel don’t care what we say - they’re the ones perpetuating this disgusting madness.

I’m sure the people who have had their homes obliterated, hospitals bombed and have been given four hour windows to flee from the threat of death would care that these conversations are happening though. When we look back on this in years to come, comments like your “there is no genocide going on” will be looked at with horror.

No there is no genocide and the casual use of it demeans real genocide going on in several places around the world right now.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 11:57

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:53

A critique of mumsnet drama llamas is devoid of humanity? Really? I'd advise some perspective.

Was it the “mumsnet drama llamas” that made up the 300,000+ people at the march yesterday then?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 11:57

structural · 12/11/2023 11:55

Exactly. According to you everyone who isn't constantly shaking and crying and LITERALLY wants to vomit (emphasis yours) about what's happening is "devoid of humanity" or "lacking human empathy" or "insulting our humanity" or has "selective humanity" or whatever melodramatic phrase you come up with next.

This. And I'll point out that I was criticising this kind of self-centred reaction to a war 3000 miles away rather than downplaying any humanitarian crisis that's happening on both sides.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 12:36

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 11:57

Was it the “mumsnet drama llamas” that made up the 300,000+ people at the march yesterday then?

The violent, racist and definitely not peaceful march. I certainly wouldn't defend it.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 12/11/2023 12:43

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/11/2023 12:36

The violent, racist and definitely not peaceful march. I certainly wouldn't defend it.

🙄 ok.

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