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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital

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TakeMe2Insanity · 03/11/2023 15:56

Israel has bombed the gates of the Al Shalha hospital.

Everyone knows displaced families are sheltering in and near hospitals.

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ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:14

And apparently the Al Shifa hospital is at risk of running out of fuel...

Again hasn't it been nearly running out of fuel and supplies for the last 3 weeks?

Do people still genuinely believe this nonsense?

EasterIssland · 11/11/2023 07:18

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:05

Just seen on the news this morning that the hospital appears to be firing back at the IDF and resisting quite heavily.

That's weird isn't it, almost as if it has been a military site the whole time...

Was that on the tv or internet ? Can’t see anything in bbc or the guardian about it do you have a link?

EasterIssland · 11/11/2023 07:33

EasterIssland · 11/11/2023 07:18

Was that on the tv or internet ? Can’t see anything in bbc or the guardian about it do you have a link?

Can’t edit my comment
this is what I can read on bbc
This morning, there's growing concern for staff and patients at Gaza's largest hospital al-Shifa - which is surrounded by Israeli forces.
Intense fighting has been raging in the area, with Israel saying it killed dozens of Hamas fighters.

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:36

And the kind of 'verified reports' that the BBC are relying on are coming from people like Mr FAFO, who seems to have made a few miraculous recoveries in the last few weeks, as well as weirdly being present at a disproportionate number of 'atrocities'. 🙄

His latest video, shown on BBC and Channel 4 news totally unquestioningly is the fakest injury scene I have ever seen. Google it if you want to. It's been analysed it frame by frame and even shows clearly people in the background giggling and hiding their faces because of the ridiculousness of it.

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HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:47

Do you have nothing better to do than to make up fake propaganda. There is no news reporting that rockets are firing from Al-shifa. And as said many times, if the Hamas base is there... You do not just bomb all the 60,000 people there. Carry out a ground invasion of the hospital. Don't just bomb it indiscriminately (in this case the entrance). What has the entrance of a hospital where patients are coming in and out of got to do with Hamas?

Toothyfruity · 11/11/2023 07:49

The DG tweeted this last night. The amount of healthcare facilities attacked is mind blowing.

Edit: sorry I uploaded them in the wrong order but you get the idea. Also I have a sick baby so haven't read all the posts on this thread yet so apologies if this was already posted.

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Hiddenmnetter · 11/11/2023 07:52

@HeidiInTheBigCity It is STILL morally unjustifiable to deliberately target doctors, nurses, patients, and internally displaced refugees!

I believe the Geneva convention does state that when military forces use civilian infrastructure to conceal themselves, then they become valid military targets.

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:54

Hiddenmnetter · 11/11/2023 07:52

@HeidiInTheBigCity It is STILL morally unjustifiable to deliberately target doctors, nurses, patients, and internally displaced refugees!

I believe the Geneva convention does state that when military forces use civilian infrastructure to conceal themselves, then they become valid military targets.

Yes when there is evidence. Israel have bombed several hospitals and guess what ... No Hamas bases have been found.

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:55

They've bombed hundreds of schools... But guess what, no Hamas bases found!!!

They clearly are doing this out of spite. How can they have bombed this much infrastructure and still found no Hamas bases?

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:55

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:47

Do you have nothing better to do than to make up fake propaganda. There is no news reporting that rockets are firing from Al-shifa. And as said many times, if the Hamas base is there... You do not just bomb all the 60,000 people there. Carry out a ground invasion of the hospital. Don't just bomb it indiscriminately (in this case the entrance). What has the entrance of a hospital where patients are coming in and out of got to do with Hamas?

They are taking ground fire from there. Awful lot of combatants firing from a so called 'hospital'.

As other posters have said, if you use a hospital or ambulance for military purposes, it becomes a military object and loses its protected status, at which point the responsibility for any civilian casualties lies with the people using the place for military purposes.

That's not a special 'Israel only' rule. It's in the Geneva convention and every other Army in the world does the same thing.

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:56

Even if they do find one now... It's a bit late. They have just indiscriminately bombed half the infrastructure in Gaza.

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:56

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 07:54

Yes when there is evidence. Israel have bombed several hospitals and guess what ... No Hamas bases have been found.

Other than all the people fighting out of this one...

Toothyfruity · 11/11/2023 07:57

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:14

And apparently the Al Shifa hospital is at risk of running out of fuel...

Again hasn't it been nearly running out of fuel and supplies for the last 3 weeks?

Do people still genuinely believe this nonsense?

Some fuel was bought on the private market a week or so ago.

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/11/2023 07:58

More testimony for the pro Israelis to deny.

it must be heart breaking for the drs to have to leave them.

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Hiddenmnetter · 11/11/2023 07:58

And yet there is ample evidence of them using civilian targets historically, and so I imagine that the highly fluid situation may result in errors being made. However shocking this is though, where’s the Outrage that IJ rocketed their own hospital?

The sort of selective outrage really is tedious. Hamas use civilian infrastructure to conceal military targets and have done so for decades. Why isn’t this the source of outrage? Why aren’t people demanding that hamas stop using their own civilians as human shields?

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 07:59

Toothyfruity · 11/11/2023 07:57

Some fuel was bought on the private market a week or so ago.

That was lucky.

Wasn't the blockade of Gaza stopping all fuel getting in though? How did this 'private market' get hold of the large quantities of fuel needed to run hospital generators 24/7?

Who runs this 'private market'?

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 08:00

Are you seriously blaming Hamas for bombing this hospital too? ...

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/11/2023 08:00

Hiddenmnetter · 11/11/2023 07:52

@HeidiInTheBigCity It is STILL morally unjustifiable to deliberately target doctors, nurses, patients, and internally displaced refugees!

I believe the Geneva convention does state that when military forces use civilian infrastructure to conceal themselves, then they become valid military targets.

And there is no one to independently verify anything other than Israel.

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EasterIssland · 11/11/2023 08:00

I’m sorry but I don’t believe a single word that idf says. All their evidences in the past few weeks have been proof to be false or doubtful

out of 11k people death only 60 have belonged to Hamas. So 0.5%. Which means every time they say “we are firing because there is someone from Hamas there” it’s mostly a lie

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 08:01

Any excuse to kill the sick, elderly and children. It's just shocking and awful. You need to have a hard look in the mirror and think about what you are saying. Are you seriously okay for hospitals to be bombed when there is no evidence of Hamas bases there?

ColonelDax · 11/11/2023 08:02

HaveALaff · 11/11/2023 08:01

Any excuse to kill the sick, elderly and children. It's just shocking and awful. You need to have a hard look in the mirror and think about what you are saying. Are you seriously okay for hospitals to be bombed when there is no evidence of Hamas bases there?

Other than the people fighting out of them you mean? 🙄

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/11/2023 08:03

The illnesses now occurring in the population that can only run from one side to the other (until Israel dumps the in the desert): upper respiratory, scabies lice, diarrhoea etc.

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Hiddenmnetter · 11/11/2023 08:05

Interestingly that article I just linked notes how as Palestinian civilians are attempting to flee Hamas are forcing them to return. Hamas shooting Palestinian civilians also. Except they’re meant to be on the same side…

Sugaristheenemy · 11/11/2023 08:05

And the kind of 'verified reports' that the BBC are relying on are coming from people like Mr FAFO, who seems to have made a few miraculous recoveries in the last few weeks, as well as weirdly being present at a disproportionate number of 'atrocities'. 🙄

The BBC did show footage from one of his videos but tbf is did show the after affects of one of the bombings.

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