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The number of children killed in Gaza in 3 weeks is more than the total number killed in armed conflict globally last year!

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Ohlalalalala · 29/10/2023 15:14

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/gaza-childrens-deaths-in-last-three-weeks-surpasses-total-child-#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20children%20reported%20killed%20in%20just%20three%20weeks,for%20the%20last%20three%20years.

The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

Statement on children's deaths in Gaza | Save the Children

Children killed in Gaza in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed across the world's conflict zones since 2019.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/gaza-childrens-deaths-in-last-three-weeks-surpasses-total-child-#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20children%20reported%20killed%20in%20just%20three%20weeks,for%20the%20last%20three%20years.

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PurpleChrayne · 29/10/2023 20:05

Save the Children get their numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry. Which is Hamas.

ChickHenLittle · 29/10/2023 20:08

AuContraire · 29/10/2023 20:02

Did the IDF build the Hamas military bases in hospitals and civilian apartments blocks for them?

Did Hamas? Now I don't doubt that Hamas use human shields, nor that they will have bases in residential areas. However, apart from a very, well, suspicious looking photo from Netanyahu, there is no proof Hamas hide out in hospitals. To be honest, even if they did, surely the patients would be put first? Is it worth killing so many civilians for a handful of Hamas fighters?

Gruntsandgroans · 29/10/2023 20:20

AuContraire · 29/10/2023 19:52

So many Gazan children are dying because Hamas has committed war crimes by building their military infrastructure in civilian areas. There's a reason that's not allowed, but Hamas chose to do it anyway, deliberately, so that children would die.

I hope posters like this are getting paid well to look stupid on the Internet. It's tiresome at this stage. We get it, Israel have no control over their actions, everything is the fault of Hamas.

Comedycook · 29/10/2023 20:27

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/10/2023 15:28

The jews in ww2 saved their children by creating the kindertransport to get them out but Israel isn’t allowing the crossing points to open to just save the children. It’s beyond disgusting that this constant bomb throwing is allowed to happen. It’s filmed, it’s real, we can all see it. I feel so sad.

1.5 million Jewish children were murdered in the holocaust....so plenty of Jewish people weren't able to get their children to safety. I have no idea why you even decided to bring it up?

Mumsanetta · 29/10/2023 20:29

Comedycook · 29/10/2023 20:27

1.5 million Jewish children were murdered in the holocaust....so plenty of Jewish people weren't able to get their children to safety. I have no idea why you even decided to bring it up?

Because you would think Israel, of all nations, would understand that their actions amount to genocide.

bness · 29/10/2023 20:32

Gruntsandgroans · 29/10/2023 20:20

I hope posters like this are getting paid well to look stupid on the Internet. It's tiresome at this stage. We get it, Israel have no control over their actions, everything is the fault of Hamas.

There is no rest until we all just say it's all Hamas, Palestinians and their supporters are evil and attacking poor civilians, desperate to destroy the world and Israel is legal and moral to the nth and just trying to protect us like a benevolent marvel superhero

There was even a post earlier somewhere about how Israel legally bought land from Palestinians so legally it's theirs, and the Palestinians are attacking for no reason (maybe they are bored). The stuff of fiction, why watch netflix 😂

EasterIssland · 29/10/2023 20:36

eardefender · 29/10/2023 18:49

If Israel are genocidal and intent on killing palestinian children (god how ridiculous) then why before this war did Garzan children get treated in Israeli hospitals for free? Why did members of the Kibbutz drive people from Gaza to their jobs and back for free to help them? Why were there charities in Israel set up to help poorer palestinians to access medical treatment? Why was the festival that was attacked a peace festival? Why did Israel pull out of gaza in 2005 and leave them the greenhouses? If Israel is intent on genocide then they seriously suck at it.
I also have no doubt that civilians are being caught in the cross fire but i seriously doubt the numbers coming from Hamas who we know are genocidal because it is in their charter to kill all jews.
It is their raison d'etre and stated aim.
If Israel are genocidal then why did they go to lengths to tell Garzans to move to the south. They gave their own intentions away thereby endangering their own soldiers to protect civilian life and also to allow terrorists to also escape.
I am sorry that this doesn't fit your simple world view and that there are actually two sides to this conflict.

Maybe cuz of this

Nearly 400 children in Gaza – or at least two a day - were denied access to critical healthcare in the West Bank in the first six months of 2023, leaving them without access to life-saving surgery or urgent medication, Save the Children said.

Nearly 100 children's applications to Israeli authorities were denied or left unanswered in the month of May alone, when hostilities escalated between Israel and armed groups in Gaza, leaving 33 Palestinians, including at least seven children, and two people in Israel dead.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/two-children-a-day-unable-to-access-medical-treatment

Gaza: 16-year blockade leaves children unable to access medical treatment

Nearly 400 children in Gaza – or at least two a day - were denied access to critical healthcare in the West Bank in the first six months of 2023.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/two-children-a-day-unable-to-access-medical-treatment

Comedycook · 29/10/2023 20:36

Mumsanetta · 29/10/2023 20:29

Because you would think Israel, of all nations, would understand that their actions amount to genocide.

It's a sickeningly ignorant comment to imply that jewish people in ww2 had some sort of easy route to get their children out...if that was the case 1.5 million wouldn't have been murdered. Do we really need to play top trumps when it comes to children being murdered?

EasterIssland · 29/10/2023 20:37

some comments from this thread feel like this

TheGander · 29/10/2023 20:38

My only hope is that the world, and also many Israelis, will be so disgusted by this massacre that 1) even Israel’s usual cheerleaders such as the US and the U.K. will think twice about giving their unconditional support again and 2) Netanyahu and his cabal of ultra orthodox thugs will be voted out at the next elections.

ChickHenLittle · 29/10/2023 20:40

EasterIssland · 29/10/2023 20:37

some comments from this thread feel like this

Yes! I have been told on another thread how I am in danger from people like... me! Granted, I like to keep my exact heritage private on MN, but it's shocking how brazen some posters will be. I'm very sure I don't want to harm anyone!

Auvergne63 · 29/10/2023 20:42

eardefender · 29/10/2023 15:45

If Hamas really cared about children dying they would immediately surrender and release the hostages and call out to independent mediators to show willing for an immediate ceasefire.
People who kills babies and children do not care about other babies and children under the rubble.
This has been brought home to me by watching interviews with Hamas leaders who look calm, clean, comfortable and well fed from, i presume Doha.
They are very casual about palestinian civilian casualties (not their own of course or their families) the interviews are simply monstrous.
They steal aid from the people and use them as human shields why would they care about Garzans dying?

Sorry but children are dying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I care. You obviously don't. Why not? Is it because the only children that matter are Israeli?

Dinkydaisy1 · 29/10/2023 20:45

EasterIssland · 29/10/2023 20:36

Maybe cuz of this

Nearly 400 children in Gaza – or at least two a day - were denied access to critical healthcare in the West Bank in the first six months of 2023, leaving them without access to life-saving surgery or urgent medication, Save the Children said.

Nearly 100 children's applications to Israeli authorities were denied or left unanswered in the month of May alone, when hostilities escalated between Israel and armed groups in Gaza, leaving 33 Palestinians, including at least seven children, and two people in Israel dead.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/two-children-a-day-unable-to-access-medical-treatment

Apparently we cant even trust save the children because their stats come from Hamas.

UN words should be discarded because they aren't a civil org. Amnesty is anti semitic. All earlier posts here.

Its laughable, really, how far everyone will go to deny any atrocities are happening in Gaza. Ignore photos and live videos. Ignore stats. Ignore statements.

But Hamas.

Auvergne63 · 29/10/2023 20:48

Dinkydaisy1 · 29/10/2023 20:45

Apparently we cant even trust save the children because their stats come from Hamas.

UN words should be discarded because they aren't a civil org. Amnesty is anti semitic. All earlier posts here.

Its laughable, really, how far everyone will go to deny any atrocities are happening in Gaza. Ignore photos and live videos. Ignore stats. Ignore statements.

But Hamas.

I despair. Like you, I cannot understand how people can continue to support what is happening in Gaza.

Ohlalalalala · 29/10/2023 20:48

Gruntsandgroans · 29/10/2023 20:20

I hope posters like this are getting paid well to look stupid on the Internet. It's tiresome at this stage. We get it, Israel have no control over their actions, everything is the fault of Hamas.

My thoughts exactly. Ad nauseam!

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2023 20:55

People keep banging on about Hamas using children as human shields. Yes, they do.

But the thing about human shields is that they are supposed to be shields. Civilised, good people aren't supposed to shrug and say, "oh well, thousands of dead children is worth it". They are supposed to think twice, not bomb the schools, hospitals and apartment buildings where mothers and their babies are.

Hamas is evil, but so are the people killing babies right now. If you are killing thousands of children you are, by any definition, fucking evil. The other 'side' right not be good but you are certainly evil.

Ohlalalalala · 29/10/2023 20:56

TheGander · 29/10/2023 20:38

My only hope is that the world, and also many Israelis, will be so disgusted by this massacre that 1) even Israel’s usual cheerleaders such as the US and the U.K. will think twice about giving their unconditional support again and 2) Netanyahu and his cabal of ultra orthodox thugs will be voted out at the next elections.

I don't want them just to be voted out; I want them to be prosecuted for genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes. They are inhuman criminals without an ounce of humanity. I wish I studied some legal specialty at uni. I would have made it my life's purpose to bring some sort of closure to all the innocent victims families by putting those responsible behind bars.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2023 20:57

And the murdering of children didn't start in October 2023. www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

Gruntsandgroans · 29/10/2023 20:58

Dinkydaisy1 · 29/10/2023 20:45

Apparently we cant even trust save the children because their stats come from Hamas.

UN words should be discarded because they aren't a civil org. Amnesty is anti semitic. All earlier posts here.

Its laughable, really, how far everyone will go to deny any atrocities are happening in Gaza. Ignore photos and live videos. Ignore stats. Ignore statements.

But Hamas.

I know. There is a reason to not listen to everybody but Israel, which is very handy for Israel. Dh and I always end up laughing when the hear the Israeli ambassador on the radio forcing their script into the conversation, making sure they hit every point on the checklist no matter how the interviewer tries to take the interview.
●human shields ✔️
●Gaza is not occupied ✔️
●We asked them to move south ✔️
●Hamas have water and food for everyone not our responsibility ✔️
●Hiding in schools,hospitals etc ✔️
no matter how the interviewer tries to

To think that there are some eejits out there that actually sit nodding their head along to Israels nonsense Confused

Dinkydaisy1 · 29/10/2023 21:03

Gruntsandgroans · 29/10/2023 20:58

I know. There is a reason to not listen to everybody but Israel, which is very handy for Israel. Dh and I always end up laughing when the hear the Israeli ambassador on the radio forcing their script into the conversation, making sure they hit every point on the checklist no matter how the interviewer tries to take the interview.
●human shields ✔️
●Gaza is not occupied ✔️
●We asked them to move south ✔️
●Hamas have water and food for everyone not our responsibility ✔️
●Hiding in schools,hospitals etc ✔️
no matter how the interviewer tries to

To think that there are some eejits out there that actually sit nodding their head along to Israels nonsense Confused

It literally is like a checklist! It's like the convo can't happen unless we hit certain narratives, which start from condemning hamas, to giving Gazans freedom since 2005, to Palestinian terrorism, to tunnels and diverted funds and human shields to only democracy in the ME. They can't have capacity for thinking beyond an accepted narrative and condemning everyone who on differs to a single point..

TomeTome · 29/10/2023 21:04

If you point a gun or a bomb at a child and pull the trigger you are not a good person. We see you Isreal and we draw the only conclusions we can.

notsoready4school · 29/10/2023 21:09

eardefender · 29/10/2023 15:45

If Hamas really cared about children dying they would immediately surrender and release the hostages and call out to independent mediators to show willing for an immediate ceasefire.
People who kills babies and children do not care about other babies and children under the rubble.
This has been brought home to me by watching interviews with Hamas leaders who look calm, clean, comfortable and well fed from, i presume Doha.
They are very casual about palestinian civilian casualties (not their own of course or their families) the interviews are simply monstrous.
They steal aid from the people and use them as human shields why would they care about Garzans dying?

So they should immediately give the hostages over with no expression from Israel at all that they are even negotiating or changing any thing towards the people of Gaza for the hostages.

you should be on the negotiation team.

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/10/2023 21:10

Comedycook · 29/10/2023 20:27

1.5 million Jewish children were murdered in the holocaust....so plenty of Jewish people weren't able to get their children to safety. I have no idea why you even decided to bring it up?

Because bizarrely Palestinian children need saving.

Transporting children away from war zones to safety shouldn’t be an alien issue, it should be in all our interests. Children that don’t have bombs falling on them non stop have a hope of growing up normally.

Redlarge · 29/10/2023 21:13

A Palestinian child killed every ten minutes by Isreal.
Sewage water sprayed.
Children being amputated with no water or drugs whilst their sibling waits to be next.
No food.
No water
No power
Horrendous not stop fire.
Absolute barbaric slaughter by monsters. Not in my name.

Comedycook · 29/10/2023 21:14

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/10/2023 21:10

Because bizarrely Palestinian children need saving.

Transporting children away from war zones to safety shouldn’t be an alien issue, it should be in all our interests. Children that don’t have bombs falling on them non stop have a hope of growing up normally.

I never said otherwise. Did you actually read my comment or just put your own spin on it?