To think Hamas have given Israel the excuse they were looking for?

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Not all of Israel. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he will obliterate Hamas. But undoubtedly hundred if not thousands of civilians will now be killed.

I’m not sure what Hamas thought the end game if this would be? What have the Iranians convinced them of? This was a sophisticated operation, outside help was given for definite.

I’m not sure it’s possible to rationalise with dehumanised terrorists, neither am I sure what the end game will be, but I just can’t understand what Hamas expected if not a total war/strikes from Israel in retaliation.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

Yet when one child is murdered in this country we have threads where people are weeping and wailing. They’re “hugging their babies” and lighting candles. They’re posting threads about how they nearly gave birth at the hospital where Lucy Letby worked.

Not seen the same for the Palestinian babies and children murdered recently……nor the ones in Israel.

the average life expectancy in Palestine was about 74.5 years in 2022.
Which is higher than in neighbouring Egypt, for context. Or Mexico.

So no, healthcare probably shouldn’t be described as especially lacking.

Palestinian women have about 3.5 children on average according to some sources. I’ve also seen the number 4.5.

that would obviously be a contributing factor as well.

Spot on.

@Oioicaptain This is where I am at. I genuinely thought the claims that Israel were heavy handed as Hamas wanted to wipe them out were excuses.
They weren't. I've now seen first hand what Hamas would do to that entire country if they were given free run and it's as bad as they said. No wonder Gaza has been blockaded.

The Israeli forces have confirmed that the be heading of babies story is inaccurate.

Hamas are still evil monsters but let's everyone stop the repeating debunked evil.

It's bad enough.

We don't need lies to be convinced Hamas is evil

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/10/babies-killed-hamas-attacks-kibbutz-israel/

@SomeCatFromJapan yes I'm aware of what was being reported. It's been debunked.

BBC world news reporter has confirmed today that the Israeli army have stated that they have no information regarding any beheading of babies.

x.com/yasm1nk/status/1711816208876523656?s=46&t=CDaDBOo42AUxl1VZxDymlA

The word that CNN uses is "butchered", the news story is less than an hour old:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/10/middleeast/israel-kibbutzim-kfar-aza-beeri-urim-hamas-attack-intl/index.html

Well it seems to be that BBC & CNN are saying different things. Which suggests it's at best unconfirmed.
So let's stop until it confirmed or not.

No one needs unconfirmed "reports" hyperbole- things are bad enough.

I trust you agree.

The BBC couldn't even bring themselves to describe Hamas as a terrorist organisation.
There are multiple other legacy media outlets reporting the massacre.

Regret, foolish, animals.
Hmm I'm seeing a lot of victim blaming towards the Palestians here.

I’ve always been sympathetic of ordinary Palestinian families, trying to live their lives in the most appalling circumstances. Hamas has just done them the most terrible disservice.

Some posters are reluctantly realising that savagely brutalising hundreds of defenceless families and showing this off on SM isn't great PR for Hamas. After all, Hamas still want all those $€€£€€$ in aid for continued arms shopping, right? No use if the world sees them for the deranged terrorists they are. Not good for that victimhood image at all.

beachcitygirl · Today 11:31

Well it seems to be that BBC & CNN are saying different things. Which suggests it's at best unconfirmed.
So let's stop until it confirmed or not.

No one needs unconfirmed "reports" hyperbole- things are bad enough.

I trust you agree”

Though Jeremy Bowen did confirm on news last night that a woman had been beheaded in her garden in Ashkelon. He saw her body himself.

Following.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67065205

In fact the BBC have reported on this. They use the term decapitated.

Yes I seen that, Horrific and absolutely should be reported

I'm merely suggesting that reports that several reputable agencies can't agree on and are unconfirmed shouldn't be reported-

especially something so horrifying it spreads like wildfire.

It's every decent human being's worst nightmare.

Like I say conflicting reports from bbc & cnn

Let's get facts straight before gossiping on a social media site.

I'm sure you'll agree

gossiping

What the actual fuck!!

Ah yes little ladies get back to your kitchens and talk more about nappies and cheap meals!!

Fucking gossiping!!! 🙄

Yes gossiping.

This is a serious issue. We should be at least attempting to stick to facts. Not unsubstantiated reports that reputable news agencies can't agree on.

What the hell have nappies got to to do with that

Jeezo

Jeremy Bowen is entirely reputable. If he reports that victims were beheaded, I believe him. That is not gossip.

I agrée, they're blinded by their own hate and it will backfire (is backfiring).

This. Hamas have now been seen for what they are - Isis style Jihadi terrorists.

Of course not. That was all propaganda from Israeli sponsored media. Just like how BBC journalists are contacting Palestinian people under false pretenses about their experiences & then trying to railroad them into supporting Israel’s attacks on Palestine.