First time TTC - thread 2

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Thought I would create a fresh thread as the original had been going since Feb. This is for anyone TTC #1, a bit of moral support as we all attempt to embark on the scary journey that is parenthood! Join us if you are a mix of terrified and excited, don't really know what you're doing yet and hadn't heard of CM before you started reading Mumsnet!!

I poas the day of my second scan, to prepare myself better for the inevitable, and it was an extremely faint line, on a 10miu stick, so I'm pretty sure any remaining hcg left my system soon after that, my lining had gone back to 3mm at the scan as well. There is the outside chance I could be preg as we only avoided my fw and the days around it (partly by choice, partly by chance), and didn't actually use any prevention methods the rest of the time, as I object to having to use condoms when we do actually want a baby! But I did a test and it was negative. If it doesn't show up soon I'll do another one to be sure. Just want this cycle over so we can start again now!

Aw, I know exactly how you feel, it's so crappy waiting. And never thought I'd want af to rear her ugly head! Fx it's soon for you. That's interesting that they told you your lining size, they didn't tell me anything at all. She seemed very interested in my left ovary and took quite a few pics whilst getting me to press down on it but then nothing was mentioned about it after so I'm hoping that she was trying to get a better view or something? Surely they would have told me if something was off about it? How long ago did you ov/was fertile window?

Ovia has my fw as 1-8th, however it does keep moving it when I tell it af still hasn't arrived! I'm now on day 33. She said at my scan that they would want to see my lining under 15mm to confirm the MC had completed, and that mine was at 3 so it definitely had. I know when my sister had a scare in her pregnancy, and they thought it could be ectopic, they scanned her and checked her ovaries to confirm which one she had ovulated from, so it could be that they were looking at for you? I was half expecting them to check the same for me at the first scan I had, but as soon as they saw the baby and heartbeat they were happy and stopped the scan. The second one as I knew I had miscarried I was only concerned about whether I would need anything removed or not, so I was just glad to know it had completed properly. I didn't think to ask about checking hcg levels after, and she didn't mention it. Just got to be patient I suppose! Hope your ttc is going well this time, fx for a sticky one for both of us (and everyone else here) quickly

Oh that's interesting, didn't know they could tell ovulation from a scan! With me they couldn't see anything at the scan so thought I'd probably miscarried fully already but did 2 repeat blood tests to check hcg levels were falling normally. After those showed they were dropping they told me to poas 3 weeks later and check negative otherwise come back but I did one 7 days later and it was negative already. Thanks :) fx for you too!

Hi all! I'm back after an awful few days. Had a quick read through and I see lots of AF, the evil flashy/static smiley face has struck again in an unpredictable manner and a few newbies!

I got the confirmation from the doc last Wednesday that I'd had a mc/cp I don't know what it's classed as. Bleeding started on Friday as I was driving 400 miles to my brothers wedding. Had awful pain and just horribleness. This then continued all yesterday as I was a bridesmaid and been in huge amounts of pain and hormones everywhere. Was generally an awful weekend (besides my brother getting married, I did manage to enjoy a few minutes lol). I'm now home and tucked up with a hot water bottle feeling more human and hormones and emotions calming down a bit. Does anyone know if we have to use protection for the first month afterwards or not? I really don't like condoms and neither does dh but will deal with them if we must.

So enough about me where's everyone up to? How you all getting on?

Oh busy I'm so sorry you've had such a horrid weekend, thinking of you and hope it doesn't last too long, take care of yourself. No, you don't have to use protection. They say to wait a cycle until you've had af again to start trying but that's just because the next cycle can be a bit crazy so it makes if difficult to date the pg if you do get bfp again but medically other than that theres no reason. Put of interest how did the Dr know what was happening if you hadn't started bleeding yet?

Hi there Busy! It's lovely to have you back, but I'm so so sorry you've had such a rough time. Being a bridesmaid must have really taken it out of you. How is DH? I hope he's taking care of you. I don't know much about anything, but I think you're still fertile after an mc/cp.

I continue with the batshit crazy cycles - got static smiley and mega positive cheapie opks on CD10. However, fertility friend says I may have ov'd on CD9 which makes no damn sense. So, am ignoring fertility friend and assuming I ov'd at CD11! Dtd three nights in a row, having a break tonight then one more time tomorrow - anyone know why the Smep plan has that late one last BD?

busy that sounds awful, you cinnamon and moonlight are doing incredible and fx for all of us this month.
pjs your batshit crazy cycles lol. I have no idea, have never stuck to the smep plan, I couldn't DTD every other day for a full cycle & every day during FW, I'm exhausted just thinking about it!

Thanks guys, im feeling better emotionally still have the moments though. DH has been great through it all he came straight home on wednesday and took thursday off with me. Thrown himself into the wedding celebrations, normally quite quiet and took the focus off me a bit as my family are really nosey and could tell i was ill. He seems to be coping a bit better though, hes a typical bloke and holds it all in.

PJ that cycle is crazy! how you feeling about it all? dont let it get you stressed. keeping fingers crossed for you! you going to keep doing opks just incase?

How lovely of your DH to take time off with you busy - keeper

Just googled the rationale behind the extra day and apparently it's to keep us covered in case egg is running late after LH surge. Considering the cycles I've had, will be pouncing on DH tomorrow night! One more time!

Yep - still going to do the cheapie opks just in case body geared up to ovulating but didn't manage it. It's very frustrating, but am weirdly less stressed than I was last month. However, let's see how zen I am at 10dpo lol. Going to try and hold out until 15 days after peak result which means testing on Friday 2nd Sept - argh!

busy I'm sorry you've had such a rough time, weddings when you're ill are hard!

pyjamas grr at crazy cycles..! However with your shorter cycle in the past the enlarge ov could make sense? As you said I'd probably keep peeing on opks!

Im 8dpo today.. Poas this morning 🙈 negative as expected.. Period due Weds if basing it on the 10 day LP I had last month but maybe not as last cycle was first off period, we'll see!

Enlarge should be early!! Don't wanna know what enlarge ov looks like 😲

Yep - that's right piehunter - have ov'd early in the past so this could make some sense. Just wish ovulation would pick a damn lane! I haven't got much hope for this month, but, let's see.

Next cycle, we're definitely dtd every other day when AF has gone - sick of missing most of my FW! Going to look at ways to improve CM as well as I literally have zero, it's like the damn gobi desert down there

Also - loving the 8dpo POAS addiction - we all start out with such good intentions!!

Sorry to hear that busy, I can completely sympathise with what you went through; I started miscarrying on the Thursday before my sisters wedding, and finished the day after it. I was making and delivering her massive wedding cake and being a bridesmaid, none of which I could easily not do, so just had to grit my teeth and get on with it, she was amazing though - I was supposed to be MOH and she switched me with her friend and switched table plans last minute so I could not do so much and also sit with DH instead of on the top table. It was just as well as I was in a lot of pain and bleeding loads so had to keep nipping out during dinner to change my pad, which was no fun! for you, I found I was fine emotionally until a few days after, when it really hit me and I got very upset, I think it was partly the hormonal roller coaster playing with my emotions, so give yourself time to come to terms with it

Thanks cinamon i am worried im suddenly going to break down. The wednesday i saw the doc i was awful i completely broke down - someone asked me before how she knew, id taken some more tests that came back negative and change in symptoms she is a specialist in fertility who semi-retired to being a local GP so knew the signs instantly.

cinamon your sister sounds lovely helping you out and keeping you involved in a way that you felt comfortable. I know what you mean about the pain and nipping out, i was so drugged up on painkillers but didnt touch it. But the wedding for me was awful, i really struggled but my sis-in-law was a bit too spaced out which makes sense lol no hard feelings i just really struggled.

PJ don't count it out yet you have a chance! and i think its sounds like a plan dtd every other day, i have no idea about my cm i suppose i need to start paying more attention lol!

Argh, now on CD34, of a normally 29 day cycle. Had AF like cramping for the last 5 days or so, just like I did when I was briefly pregnant before my MC, so either my body is massively winding me up and AF will appear soon or I ovulated really late this cycle. POAS this morning, and it was negative I thought I could maybe, just, sort of see a line in a certain light but probably seeing things so I guess I just have to wait a few more days and see what happens... Hate this waiting game!

Ah cinnamon how frustrating the waiting is.. Fx!

I've been having cramping pelvic pain for the last 4 days, it's probably just my usual abdominal pain but further down and me noticing it there more because I know there's a chance! I've also got creamy cm still but again not reading too much into it, I've surprised myself by not being too bad with the symptom spotting/thinking I'm pregnant.

My boobs are absolutely killing me but that happened last month, 2 weeks of the month where they hurt even to walk down stairs and I want an option to take them off to sleep well as any accidental arms on them/lying on them wakes me up. Have had none of this for my last 9 years on hormonal contraception, I don't appreciate it, and neither does DH, he gets slapped away going anywhere near them, it's really romantic 😀

Ah cinnamon- the waiting is so annoying! Hope everything falls into place one way or the other soon.

What day are you on piehunter?

I've had stabby right hand pelvic pains today - maybe egg took its time after LH surge after all?! Dtd tonight just in case - am on CD14 now. Wish I'd come off hormonal birth control much earlier! Ah well, will just never go on it again ha ha

Have a couple of days off work just doing absolutely nothing and enjoying a bit of hermit-like solitude. just tried yoga DVD - wow, pretty damn boring! Going to see what's on at the cinema - live solo cinema time

Haha Piehunter I had that exact thought with my uterus early this morning when I couldn't get comfortable due to crampy stretchy pains 'I wish I could just take it out and leave it somewhere to do its thing while I get on with what I want to do, like sleep' my boobs really hurt last time, and they don't now, I am torn between thinking this is because it's AF mucking me about and it's because they've already grown a lot so won't hurt so quickly next time!
pyjamas that sounds lovely and relaxing! Hope you enjoy

pie my boobs are like that too lol and my dh also gets the slappy hand. its extremely romantic! what day are you on now? sounds promising and well done on not symptom spotting!

PJ the pains sound bizarre did you and dh manage to get dtd in then? enjoy the cinema!

cinnamon i know how you feel about the imaginary line, i swear i saw them for days!

Can anybody help me im a bit confused, the bleeding has stopped i think and im not in as much pain now. Do i count this as cycle day 4 (started on friday) or do i have to wait until my next period to figure out what is going on?

I know busy, v strange, but nothing is surprising me with my cycle anymore! We dtd the first day I got a positive OPK and static smiley, the day after, the day after, had a break last night and will dtd again tonight. So over TTC dtd.

Hopefully someone will be able to answer your question soon - I'm clueless I'm afraid!

Decided against cinema - nothing I really want to watch and would mean breaking the hermit code and being around people ha ha. Will rent a sky movie instead Did a 10 min meditation exercise and remembered why I used to love it so much!

busy this is precisely my problem, I don't know where I'm counting from, I hoped I'd have a normal cycle straight away again afterwards, wishful thinking I know, but it would appear not! Sorry I cant be more help! Do you use opks? I wish I had now so that I had some clue what was going on!

This may be useful? www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Charting-after-miscarriage.html it does count bleeding as period, hopefully things will settle quite quickly for you.

I'm cd30, 9dpo, will probably test again on weds if no AF as I'm due on tomorrow if i have the same length luteal phase as last month but no idea if I ov'd. Ovia says period due yesterday as had a 28 day cycle last month but ov'd late this month. It's all a bit of a mystery!

pj good job on the dtd marathon! Fx for you!

cinnamon sorry you're still waiting but sounds like something is happening down there so hopefully you won't be waiting long either way til you know what's going on again.