Why is there so much dislike for the middle name rose on here?

[Bluewales]

I called my daughter Ava Rose I think it’s very short and pretty and I chose rose for no particular reason other than I liked how it looked and sounded, which seems to be heavily looked down upon on here to choose rose just because it’s pretty and without family meaning but I don’t really understand why it matters. Rose is a filler i admit but it’s beautiful that’s why imo. Many on here always insist on giving a really clunky old fashioned middle name like Catherine, Elizabeth, Margaret etc after a family member or something but not everyone needs or wants to pick such names just for the sake of a family member and to potentially make the first name look uglier.

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.

Is there dislike for it? Maybe it's just because it's used a lot and every fourth girl is called Something Rose?

It’s because people think it’s either dated or common. Which isn’t an answer you’ll like, but you did ask. It’s not particularly pretty, just a bit…meh?

And, personally, I think ‘filler’ names are a bit of a sad concept.

There’s no dislike for it, it was just very overused, the Louise of its time. It’s perfectly nice, just there’s a lot of them.

I used family names because it connects DD to her family (of which she has very little).

I wouldn't personally use filler name, I don't think filler names compliments every name equally. For example Marina Rose is very pretty to me, but I don't like Ava Rose. I know people are named this, but ultimately I just don't fancy shorter name and don't like name Ava. That's my personally opinion, your kid would probably like her name.

I also wouldn't chose to honor a relative over name I truly liked, but then I don't think dusty old names are necessary ugly.

I think it’s pretty as a first or middle name

I have a something Rose, she is 14, its defo become the Louise of her time...

I like it.

It's a popular middle name (like Louise and May/Mae) but nontheless it's a lovely, pretty name. I think it goes well with Ava.

I think it’s like May/Mae and Grace, just really common as a middle name. (My daughter has one of these names so no judgement! It’s short and goes with her longer first name really nicely IMO.)

i don’t think Rose gets a particular amount of hate on here anyway? I can’t imagine having hate for any middle name really, they’re so inconsequential!

People are weird about middle names.

no one ever knows middle names after birth announcements. So people should go with whatever they fancy and if others don’t like it - it really doesn’t matter.

rose is nice btw

To me, a "filler name" would be a middle name you choose without much care because you think every child ought to have one, or if you choose one purely to create a gap between the first name and surname (e.g. you don't like the way the 'A' sounds in "Emma Allen" run together, so you stick another name in between).

But if you love the name Rose (or May or Grace) then I don't think they count as filler names. They're just very popular.

It's because it's so overused as a middle name. Any other girl will be Ava Rose, Ava May or Ava Grace or whatever the first name is.

both my dc middle names have been family names for generations.

Because a lot of people on here are very blunt. And not very kind. I would advise people not to ask people their opinions of names, unless they have a thick skin.

Ava Rose is a pretty name.

I think some of the ones you've said are clunky can be pretty too with a short, soft first name. Something like Sophie Elizabeth or Ivy Catherine.

If I'd had girls I'd have wanted Marianne or Rosalind as middle names with softer, shorter first names. Neither of those are family names, I just like them.

I didn't realise 'k' names or hyphens were so unpopular before coming on mumsnet.

I love the name Rose. It's pretty and feminine. I think it's a snobby thing to dislike it.

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.
You aren't biased because you liked the name before using it.

I think Rose as a middle name is twee and unimaginative, but I think that about all girl's filler middle names.

It’s okay, if a bit bland.
I wouldn't choose it, or other flowery names because to me it sounds bright, cheerful, light and summer like and thats a lot of pressure, what if they want to be a goth?! Or have a naturally standoffish manner.
I met a charming young girl called Willow recently, thats a lot of pressure to be slim! And Grace needs to be calm and have impeccable manners…it’s just tempting fate to have a name with an obvious meaning I think.

why do you think these names are fillers that people havent thought about, you are the one lacking imagination

Personally I don't get the fuss over middle names. They're so rarely used. Some people love to use family names, some people pick something to flow/go with their first name choice and some people just pick something completely random which they like (maybe something a bit quirky or different which they weren't brave enough to use as a first name). Each to their own.

A pet hate of mine is when people warn other people off of a popular middle name choice on here, calling them 'filler names'. It really is nobody else's business what anyone else chooses as a middle name, especially when opinions aren't actually being sought. I see that a lot, where people are seeking advice on a first name and say "middle name will be x" and suddenly everyone is responding with "don't choose x as it's a boring filler name", when they have no idea why the OP is choosing it. Names like Rose and Grace were very popular in the early half of the 1900s so, for many people, those so called 'filler names' are actually family names anyway. Even if someone is just picking it because they like it and it 'goes', that's their prerogative.

Own your choice. Who cares what other people think?

I absolutely love the name Ava Rose. What a beautiful and elegant name! I may be a little biased, as I named my second daughter Georgia Rose. She asked me about it a few weeks ago, and I told her it’s because I think Rose🌹 is a wonderful name and the most beautiful flower. I also mentioned that I would be quite happy if she wants to be called Rose in the future, after all, I have used my middle name all my life because I dislike my first name!🌹😂

@bruffin , I didn't say they haven't thought about them. They are fashionable and predictable.
Why do you say am I lacking in imagination?

Who cares? Ava Rose is a beautiful name! (My daughter has the middle name of Louise like loads of other girls of her generation - so what, no-one knows or cares! It's a middle name!

I think you're being way meaner about the names you don't like, calling them clunky and saying they make the first name ugly than I've seen about Rose. People just comment that Rose is very popular (which is true), just like certain first names, and have a preference for a family middle name. I think Rose is super pretty, as is Elizabeth and Catherine. Just different tastes for different people, and at the end of the day you're just choosing a name you like just like the first name.

It’s practically not a name because there are so many of them. The point of having a name is so people can distinguish between you and the bloke next to you. Evie/Ava/Ada/Ella Mae/May/Mia/Rose names are so popular.