Why is there so much dislike for the middle name rose on here?

[Bluewales]

I called my daughter Ava Rose I think it’s very short and pretty and I chose rose for no particular reason other than I liked how it looked and sounded, which seems to be heavily looked down upon on here to choose rose just because it’s pretty and without family meaning but I don’t really understand why it matters. Rose is a filler i admit but it’s beautiful that’s why imo. Many on here always insist on giving a really clunky old fashioned middle name like Catherine, Elizabeth, Margaret etc after a family member or something but not everyone needs or wants to pick such names just for the sake of a family member and to potentially make the first name look uglier.

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.

I think Rose is a pretty name in itself and the only reason some people are negative about it is because it's been so very popular as a middle name for quite a while. I'd be interested to know how many of those people have Jane, Elizabeth or Louise as a middle name!

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.

I don’t dislike it but it’s boring because every other girl has the middle name Rose.

It's literally the most popular middle name for girls in the country so I don't see how that can be the case.

@Zennia , do you have any backup data about it being the most popular middle name? It certainly seems like it is.

When I was at uni, half the women on my course had either Mary or Anne/Ann as a middle name. Rose is now the universal middle name for girls. It's very over-used.

My middle name is Louise and DC's middle names are James, Grace & Rose. 😂

I'm a mid-30s Something Rose, and I know at least 2 other women born within 12 months of me who have the exact same first name + Rose. It wasn't original back in the 90s and it's not original now.

But the one point that is kind of a running theme across all name threads is that different people value different things in names, and if 'being original' wasn't a consideration for OP using Rose as a middle name then all good, it's generally seen as a lovely name but just widespread. If you wanted to be so different, but are devastated to find every second girl is Something Rose, then I'd be commiserating because that's disappointing for you.

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.
There are so many claims of it being after a relative called Rose, but there seem to very few Roses in the great-grandmother - mother age group.

Holly Rose is pretty but it's two plants.

You think people are lying about it? Why? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Because I've heard it all before about other filler middle names, @TheBirdintheCave .

Go back 30 years and nearly everybody seemed to have a granny called Louise.

I actually met the Rose in the case I was talking about - she was the baby's great- grandmother, who would have been well into her 90s, and I think it was short for something like Rosina but she had always preferred just Rose.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Ava Rose is a pretty name but you’ve been offensive calling other names clunky. My daughter has Elizabeth as a middle name because it was important to me and I think it sounds classy with her first name…each to their own, why do you care so much what others think?

Every other child at my DC secondary school
is called Ava . It’s a nice enough name but there are so many of them . Rose/Mae/Grace will be the middle name of most of them too . It’s just so boring when there are so many other names out there.

It seems a weird thing to lie about.

I don't mind at all saying that my DD is Felicity Rose and if anyone asks about her middle name (which has only happened a few times, just after birth) I very easily said ''Oh, we just liked it because it sounds nice with Felicity''. No biggie at all.

Strange 🧐 In my year at school most people had Marie as their middle name (but I went to a Catholic school 😅).

Anyway, I love talking about my family history so if anyone questioned my ‘Rose credentials’ I’d happily whip out my Ancestry tree to show them 😂

I don't think it's lying, more a wider/looser interpretation of what a 'family name' is. Fashion+family connection.

So people hear the name Rose as a middle name, think it sounds pretty, realise 'Oh, that was my Great-Great Aunt's name/Granny's middle name/pops up a lot in the family tree on Ancestry'.

I think a lot of family names would be more popular though if they coincided with fashion/tastes. My Grandma's middle name was Doreen - she hated it, and I'm not going to be using it any time soon! Or my friend's middle name (which she also hated) after her grandma's first name - one of OP's 'clunky' names.