scots supporting england!

[glasgowmandy]

my whole family are die hard scots, and every single one of them is bashing england to loose the cup, i dont understand it, i hope they do their best and will support them all the way! arnt we all british supporters??

if i talk about it to any of them they are horrified, just this afternoon, my brother was saying he thinks im upsetting dad with supporting them.. oh my god its football, get a grip!!

well come on england!!

I find Welsh anti English than Scots. Im not English either, so no shooting please
Personal opinion.

Jerusalem has a lovely melody but it isn't very inclusive. Something not affiliated with any religion would be preferable imho.

Sorry diva, that was to Orm not you!

Started new thread here to gather suggestions which I can send to Dave .

Can you tell I'm stuck at home today?!

We're not having the Royal family. You can keep them.

Totally disagree with your plan to ban football - but totally agree with giving the royals to Scotland (or to America - even better!) .

The Scots wouldn't even have to build them a new house as they have Balmoral already - job done.

I don't care.You're keeping them.

A fight? Why not? Give me a minute and I'll get my claymore.

We'll do a deal - we'll take the Queen & Harry and you can chop the heads of the rest of them!

No deal.No Queen.

We'll take the corgis though.

They're yours now. You're stuck with them I'm afraid.

I don't think it's become a horrible thread at all. Very interesting.

I don't think any of the analogies used really equate to the Scottish-English thing, though. With Croatia and Serbia there's a violent civil war very recently. Germans committed some awful atrocities against Dutch people within living memory during a lengthy occupation. Anglo-Irish relations have been tainted by violence until recently.

But when was the last actual conflict/violence when it comes to England and Scotland? Hundreds of years ago, surely?

Personally when it comes to Germany, I'm not that bothered either way. Argentina I always want the other team to win for an actual footballing reason - they cheated against us in a crucial match in a World Cup. But I wouldn't go to the rather ridiculous lengths of buying flags/shirts of opposing teams then anyway.

It just all seems so disproportionate.

"But when was the last actual conflict/violence when it comes to England and Scotland? Hundreds of years ago, surely?"

Wembley, 1977?!

Riven, just declare a republic. Full stop.

But I still don't agree with you about banning football !

Agree, Jerusalem should be the English national anthymn. Beautiful song - see I love it and I'm Scottish - we're not all that bad!.

I'm Irish and won't be supporting England in the world cup. It's not due to any history of violence etc. and I won't be cheering against them, it's just why would I support any country other than my own? There's countries i'll want to see do well but only due to individual players etc and only if they're playing nice football, where as supporting a team normally means you don't care how they play as long as they win.
There's still quite a bit of anti-english sentiment in some parts of Ireland but thankfully the majority of people who cheer against England now do it out of our shared rivalry/for a bit of fun rather than taking it too seriously but there is still definitely a significant minority who seem to be anti-english beyond the sports field.