Noel Radford

[Anarchy99]

AIBU to point out that Noel Radford got together with his now wife very young and they had their first baby when she was THIRTEEN and he was SEVENTEEN.

Four years difference but a lifetime in maturity. A man old enough to drive a car and a child.

As others are in the firing line for age differences despite no implication of any wrongdoing, is everyone okay with this?

If so, why? Is it because they were in care?

A 4 year age gaps wasn’t uncommon 30 years ago. And they stayed together.

A 13 year old being pregnant is not ok under any circumstances

A 13 year old and 17 year old is not such an age gap depending on the maturity of the kids. I dont believe any13 year old should be in a 'relationship' anyway, let alone having kids. She should have been encouraged to have a termination but I get the impression she just wanted to have kids. Some young girls do and its difficult to persuade them otherwise.

I don’t think it’s comparable to the high profile celeb stories in the news. The likes of Russell Brand were very clearly preying on young women with the intention of shagging them and never seeing them again, using them for sex.
Although being pregnant at 13 by a 17 year old is clearly not ok, they were in a relationship and have stayed together all of these years.
Yanbu about the age factor but yabu to compare it to RB and DW who used their fame to abuse strangers for their own gratification.

Well my only comment on what you have said is, as somebody who is older generation, it was quite normal for women of my grandparents generation to give birth to a lot of children - families of 13 or more were very common. So I can remember quite clearly the absolute revolution for women when birth control became freely available. And personally I find it incomprehensible as to why any woman these days would put her body through multiple births. If this is what this woman choses to do then fair enough but it's akin to stepping back into the dark ages as far as i'm concerned.

They were both children.

At 17???

They’re both fairly low IQ and grew up in the care system. I don’t think he was predatory as such.

I am not suggesting he was predatory. I don’t think he was.

It is fascinating to see the number of people who don’t have an issue with a man getting a child pregnant though.

I thought someone said they were both adopted

oh come on there’s a world of difference between 13 and 17

They were both adopted children and grew up in loving homes. He was her brother’s friend.

I missed the first bit of your sentence, what is their IQ, has it been published somewhere?

He runs a business doesnt he?

I've never heard of Noel Radford.

They were both adopted within weeks of being born and grew up in stable, loving families. I used to follow them years ago when they appeared a few times a year and they were supposedly hard working and just a normal, albeit larger family. Had to stop watching, the trauma really comes through the more they put themselves out there, Sue is addicted to being pregnant and having a newborn then seems to lose interest and passes them onto an older child. She's definitely got some sort of learning disability and Noel is quite the male chauvinist. The kids have been emotionally neglected. They always threaten to sue anyone who brings up their ages when they got together.

They always threaten to sue anyone who brings up their ages when they got together.

Interesting, it is a wonder MN has let this thread stand. I suppose at that point MN would leave posters to fight any litigation themselves, if it came to court.

Who have they threatened to sue and on the basis of what?

Their ages are always discussed, thats virtually the main thing I know about them and Ive never seen their programmes.

They met when she was 7 and he was 11. He claims they had their "first kiss" when she was 13 but note that she was only just 14 when she gave birth while he was 18 and a half.

It's completely disgusting.

ETA - so she was only just 13 when she got pregnant while he was nearly 18. It's worse than oh they were 14 and 17 sounds.

Of the 9 of the children who are now aged 23 and over, 5 have (respectively) 1, 2, 3, 3 & 4 children each; and 4 of them don't have any. How on earth can you possibly know how high-achieving or economically-productive they might or might not be?

I think it's very important not to automatically write off and stereotype the children as scroungers or no-hopers, when all of them did nothing more than happen to be born to their parents - the same as all of us.

He should’ve been charged. Regardless of if he was adopted or not, he knew right from wrong.

i know they have stayed together all this time, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have felt the consequences of what he did, he shouldn’t get away with it just because they’ve stayed together.

none of their children have made anything of themselves, the older ones who’ve left home have all had dysfunctional relationships (Millie in particular)

the older ones at home are shut off in dark rooms gaming online all day and night.

when they very first came on tv (was it 15 kids and counting?) the kids were violent to each other, complained about their household to the cameras, the house was filthy and in disrepair, they were locked in their rooms at night etc.

it was only when they switched to Chanel 5 (they switched because they didn’t like how Chanel 4 was presenting them) that suddenly they started trying to portray as this amazing family as they had a lot more say in what was shown and the editing.

yeah they have a lot more money now due to the media money and all the freebies they’ve had over the years like prams, washing machines etc that the house is a lot better (condition wise)

They’ve had a lot of issues with their eldest child and Millie over the years. Both of these children have gone long periods of time not speaking to Sue and Noel over the years.

the shows make them out to be something that they aren’t, they’re all very staged and nobody is relaxed in front of a camera and it’s very cringy watching them.

they seem to be filming with the walker family a lot lately, but again they’re another family who aren’t comfortable filming and it’s clear they don’t really know them very well. They make it out they’re all great friends and have loads of contact but when you see them on screen together it’s clear they don’t really know each other that well. The kids also don’t know each other (the Radford and walker kids) that well, you can tell by the conversations they have on screen, it’s all very awkward etc.

I've nothing against them, but I just don’t like people in general who make out they’re something that they aren’t.

They were both kids. They came through it all and raised a large family. So why go digging at something thats bugger all to do with you?

the shows make them out to be something that they aren’t, they’re all very staged and nobody is relaxed in front of a camera and it’s very cringy watching them.

This is very true. They do anything to invent drama, however desperate, and then 'tease' it throughout the programme - when it's nothing more interesting than that they're getting a second massive commercial washing machine as they don't have capacity with just their one existing massive commercial washing machine!

Sorry I just can't see it this way. He was nearly 18 and she was just turned 13 when he got her pregnant. That's not just two kids, he was a predator.

I was abused by an older cousin at very similar ages and it's still something I struggle with. I don't think being (just) under 18 means you can have sex with much younger children with impunity. I'm blown away people think its ok.

Would the people on here that say it’s not a problem as only 4 years say the same thing if their 13 year old was dating (and sleeping) with a 17 year old? ..
I think they are a nice couple. It’s great they stayed together. Do I think it was wrong? Yes! Yes I do. Okay it’s only 4 years but it’s the age range that’s the problem 13 and 17 is very different from 20 and 24. I know he was only really a child too. I’m not saying he’s a sex offender or anything. But it still isn’t right imo.

Yes. Under eighteen, legally, he is a child.