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Noel Radford

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Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 15:41

AIBU to point out that Noel Radford got together with his now wife very young and they had their first baby when she was THIRTEEN and he was SEVENTEEN.

Four years difference but a lifetime in maturity. A man old enough to drive a car and a child.

As others are in the firing line for age differences despite no implication of any wrongdoing, is everyone okay with this?

If so, why? Is it because they were in care?

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Tsukimi · 11/11/2026 17:08

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 15:50

They are on the telly quite a bit.

Of course there is no suggestion that either of them
behaved inappropriately but I find a four year age gap at that age interesting.

Why is there no suggestion he behaved inappropriately?! I would call a 17 year old having sex with a 12 (?) year old pretty inappropriate.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 11/11/2026 17:08

Why is he a man at 17 ? All other threads on any other topic (or indeed on this topic where the younger person is under 18) they are referred to as a child ?

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:15

It’s irritating how it’s presented as a sweet wholesome teenage romance that lasted when it was predatory by modern standards.

And it doesn’t matter if it’s been discussed before; sometimes we talk about something more than once Hmm

WilliamTopazMcGonagallPoorPoetFromDundeeBeItTold · 11/11/2026 17:17

RobertaFirmino · 11/11/2026 17:04

14 yo and 18 yo do have sex. It happens. Yes, it is illegal but in the Radford's case, there wasn't much of a power imbalance. Nobody appears to have been hurt.

I'm more pissed off about the NHS costs they must have racked up by having all those children and how they have produced 22 new consumers.

Personally, I can't get too annoyed about the NHS costs, child benefit etc. for them all - 1 per person as standard - as I consider them to be primarily linked to the children themselves, rather than to the parents. By my reckoning, it doesn't really make any difference whether it's 22 children born to one mum (I know one of their little ones tragically didn't make it) or 22 children born to 22 mums.

For all huge families, the main issue for me is the values that they're raised with and whether they lead to them ending up reaching their full potential and becoming lots of productive, tax-paying members of society who both give and take on an individual basis like everybody else; or alternatively lots of ne-er-do-wells who just end up taking and giving very little.

Tsukimi · 11/11/2026 17:33

WilliamTopazMcGonagallPoorPoetFromDundeeBeItTold · 11/11/2026 17:17

Personally, I can't get too annoyed about the NHS costs, child benefit etc. for them all - 1 per person as standard - as I consider them to be primarily linked to the children themselves, rather than to the parents. By my reckoning, it doesn't really make any difference whether it's 22 children born to one mum (I know one of their little ones tragically didn't make it) or 22 children born to 22 mums.

For all huge families, the main issue for me is the values that they're raised with and whether they lead to them ending up reaching their full potential and becoming lots of productive, tax-paying members of society who both give and take on an individual basis like everybody else; or alternatively lots of ne-er-do-wells who just end up taking and giving very little.

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I agree with this and always think it should be more widely understood. I find it really weird when people say that their taxes shouldn't pay for schools as they don't have children when it seems much more logical to me to see it as you paying back for your own schooling. One each as you say

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:42

WilliamTopazMcGonagallPoorPoetFromDundeeBeItTold · 11/11/2026 17:17

Personally, I can't get too annoyed about the NHS costs, child benefit etc. for them all - 1 per person as standard - as I consider them to be primarily linked to the children themselves, rather than to the parents. By my reckoning, it doesn't really make any difference whether it's 22 children born to one mum (I know one of their little ones tragically didn't make it) or 22 children born to 22 mums.

For all huge families, the main issue for me is the values that they're raised with and whether they lead to them ending up reaching their full potential and becoming lots of productive, tax-paying members of society who both give and take on an individual basis like everybody else; or alternatively lots of ne-er-do-wells who just end up taking and giving very little.

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Given how those children seem to be having plenty of their own now, it’s hard to imagine how they will be economically productive enough to offset the cost

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Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:43

Tsukimi · 11/11/2026 17:33

I agree with this and always think it should be more widely understood. I find it really weird when people say that their taxes shouldn't pay for schools as they don't have children when it seems much more logical to me to see it as you paying back for your own schooling. One each as you say

But by that logic. if you have never worked, then you are expecting others to pay for your schooling and the schooling of your children.

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:44

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 15:41

AIBU to point out that Noel Radford got together with his now wife very young and they had their first baby when she was THIRTEEN and he was SEVENTEEN.

Four years difference but a lifetime in maturity. A man old enough to drive a car and a child.

As others are in the firing line for age differences despite no implication of any wrongdoing, is everyone okay with this?

If so, why? Is it because they were in care?

ANOTHER one! Confused We really need a board for this.

THIRTEEN AND SEVENTEEN. Wow, a 4 year difference. Arrest that man now!

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:44

Also, who the hell is Noel Radford?

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:45

moonraker0 · 11/11/2026 16:19

This is all getting ridiculous now. MN has turned into a witch hunt the past few days.

Thank you for proving my point. But when people are trying to implicate random celebs, it seems only fair to judge everyone the same

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:46

Did you know my uncle Dave's mate Alan was dating a 15 year old when he was 16?!!! 😱

The scandal of the town it was, a SCANDAL I say!

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:48

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:44

Also, who the hell is Noel Radford?

It isn’t clever when people do this.

I have never watched it but I know who they are from here and other discussion based places.

It doesn’t make you superior and intelligent to ‘not know’ something. I sometimes don’t know celebrities discussed on other threads. As an adult, I recognise I have nothing worth contributing and manage not to contribute.

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:49

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:44

ANOTHER one! Confused We really need a board for this.

THIRTEEN AND SEVENTEEN. Wow, a 4 year difference. Arrest that man now!

It is a significant difference between a child in year 8 and one who has done their GCSEs and left school. We aren’t talking about a forty year old with someone who is thirty six. I take it you also understand a fourteen year old dating a twelve year old is inappropriate.

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:49

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:48

It isn’t clever when people do this.

I have never watched it but I know who they are from here and other discussion based places.

It doesn’t make you superior and intelligent to ‘not know’ something. I sometimes don’t know celebrities discussed on other threads. As an adult, I recognise I have nothing worth contributing and manage not to contribute.

Bit touchy aren't you? I never said I am more superior or intelligent. I just literally do not know who Noel Radford is!

I am allowed to say that!

JHound · 11/11/2026 17:49

Who are these people?

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:50

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:50

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:49

It is a significant difference between a child in year 8 and one who has done their GCSEs and left school. We aren’t talking about a forty year old with someone who is thirty six. I take it you also understand a fourteen year old dating a twelve year old is inappropriate.

Nothing wrong with 12 and 14... 🙄

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:51

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Do you have a problem with me? Have I upset you at some time? You are being very rude to me.

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:51

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:44

ANOTHER one! Confused We really need a board for this.

THIRTEEN AND SEVENTEEN. Wow, a 4 year difference. Arrest that man now!

I drafted a reply but as you would be fine about a 17 yo man getting a 13 yo pregnant because ‘it’s only four years’, I will just leave that there.

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:52

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:51

I drafted a reply but as you would be fine about a 17 yo man getting a 13 yo pregnant because ‘it’s only four years’, I will just leave that there.

OK. Pretty sure I never said a 17 year old getting a 13 year old PREGNANT is OK though.

Kindly point out where I said that.

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Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:53

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:50

Nothing wrong with 12 and 14... 🙄

Yes there is.

IIs 11 and 15 okay? 10 and 14?

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:54

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:53

Yes there is.

IIs 11 and 15 okay? 10 and 14?

That's not a 2 year gap though IS it?

swingingbackwardsandforwards · 11/11/2026 17:54

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:51

Do you have a problem with me? Have I upset you at some time? You are being very rude to me.

With you personally, no, I don’t recognise your username. Broadly speaking and not personally aimed at you, I have a problem with replies that are like the one above ‘who is this person?’ and with replies that purposefully miss the point and make out it’s just about a four year age gap when it isn’t, it’s about the imbalance of power in those particular, specific ages (and bear in mind the law agrees: under 16s can’t consent to sexual activity and so even if you - general you - pretend it’s just about a four year age difference the law doesn’t agree,)

It is just tedious, sorry but it is.

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:54

ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:52

OK. Pretty sure I never said a 17 year old getting a 13 year old PREGNANT is OK though.

Kindly point out where I said that.

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Ah so it’s okay for him to sleep with her, just not get her pregnant? 🙈🙈

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ILoveAGingerCat · 11/11/2026 17:55

Anarchy99 · 11/11/2026 17:54

Ah so it’s okay for him to sleep with her, just not get her pregnant? 🙈🙈

I never said that either. Please stop saying I said things that I DID NOT SAY.