Noel Radford

[Anarchy99]

AIBU to point out that Noel Radford got together with his now wife very young and they had their first baby when she was THIRTEEN and he was SEVENTEEN.

Four years difference but a lifetime in maturity. A man old enough to drive a car and a child.

As others are in the firing line for age differences despite no implication of any wrongdoing, is everyone okay with this?

If so, why? Is it because they were in care?

one of the issues is why do a tv channel support his
Someone cracks a joke about a 15year old and there’s now outrage
where as this is wide known and yet supported

and doubt MN will delete this thread even tho it factually correct

should of never been on tv in the first place
vile

It channel 5 that shows their show

Go on then, tell us what your point is

well you could develop some autonomy and not do what everyone else is doing.

he's had plenty of heat for the age gap . I suspect that because they're still married, there is no one who wants to report anything to the police. also he was older, and it's clearly not ok, but he was 17, he wasn't legally an adult, they shouldn't have been in a relationship but I imagine their life experience leveled up the maturity gap

I mean he’s absolutely a ra**ist, I don’t understand why him being one has anything to do with why other people are getting called out? It seems very random. He’s been called out for years. I lean I’d love as much as the next person that they all got called out at the same time but it’s not realistic and it just seemed like you wanted to make a thread to jump on the bandwagon

I have made that clear in my next sentence.

Everyone has been doing that today so I thought I would see how angry people were about this specific situation.

The difference is my thread is fact based instead of speculation.

I assumed Noel was a man (Noelle is usually the feminine). Who is he and who is his wife or girlfiend?

Unfortunately though the attitude at the time was contemptuous towards ‘tarty’ girls. Horrid though it is remember Rita Sue and Bob Too was embraced as a hilarious comedy, and that successfully encapsulates the zeitgeist views prevalent then.

We can acknowledge something as wrong by modern standards and also accept that it happened in the past and was widely accepted, a bit like homophobia and corporal punishment.

Fucking hell!

It wasn’t “widely accepted” that men had sex with children and got them pregnant in 1989.

People always say ‘who?’ on these threads - why don’t they just google?

I’m surprised how people focus on who he is rather than the fact he got a 13yo girl pregnant when he was 17

I was there, yes girls (15/16) could be seen as that but at 13 it was acknowledged they were a child.

It was, I am afraid. Teenage pregnancies were sky high in the 90s and while obviously some were fathered by same or similarly aged boys a lot weren’t, and they faced no prosecution or consequences.

He still had impregnated a child

I'm sorry that as a young teen you weren't better protected from older males who were taking advantage of you by letting you feel grown up. it's understandable that this kind of coverage could raise complicated feelings.

I also had female friends of 13/14 with boyfriends of 16/17/18. Late 70’s, early 80’s.
They were quite eager to talk about their sexual experiences and were proud to have lost their virginity.
One of my friends was worried I would tell my dad, as he was friends with her dad. She was worried about what her dad would say/do.

She did laugh about how uncomfortable having sex in the car was.

When it suits.

It suits the narrative of this thread that he's some kind of a weird predator so for this thread he's a grown man equal, no doubt, in status to a 50-year-old rich man in terms of power and ability to groom 13-year-old girls.

From the same crowd who no doubt state that people aren't adults until, dunno, 85 and that it should be illegal for people to have relationships with anyone who is a day or so younger than them. Cos brains not fully developed. Or something.

Maybe in the 90s but it was frowned upon in the 80s (including 1989!). Two girls got pregnant at our school at 16 and it was quite the scandal.

Not quite. I don’t see seventeen year olds as grown men and I acknowledge the past is another country and all that.

But there is a massive power imbalance between thirteen and seventeen. This is the case from both a legal standpoint (the age of consent is sixteen, not thirteen) and from a moral one - seventeen is significantly older than thirteen in a way that goes beyond it just being ‘four years.’

There are many many problem relationships out there but they rely on the people reporting the problem or even believing there is a problem.

Some which we think should be a problem are not and others are.

It may be school dependent @Anarchy99 ; in some schools <cough> it wouldn’t have been. But in any case, I see from googling that the first child was born in 1989 which I think we can call the 90s in a cultural sort of sense.

17 is old enough to drive a car and it’s a few months before the age of majority. People always excuse men particularly on here by saying they are only young despite being in their 20s.

I am not saying he’s a predator at all but many threads today have picked up on what they deem to be problematic age gaps so I was just trying to canvass opinion.

It could be the school.

The idea of 1989 being culturally the 90s is depressing - in my mind, the 80s were all dayglo socks, great music and big hair, and the 90s were a lot grimmer 😬

And would you consider then to have been exploited?

The decade thing fascinates me. I read a book ages ago which talks about this - so for example 2007 - 2012 was one ‘era’ as it encompassed early social media. Anyway, not strictly relevant, I know. I think there is a distinction between early / mid 80s and end of the 80s though.