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AIBU to not encourage a friendship because parents are CFs.

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Icecreamandcoffee · Today 17:28

DD (5) made a new friend last year in the summer term, let's call her Jane. We have just entered the era of unaccompanied playdates last summer. Summer holidays come round and DDs new friends mum messages about her DD coming for a playdate. I say yes that's fine. Playdate was supposed to only be a couple of hours but the night before I got a text from the mum asking for playdate to start at 9 as Dad was dropping off, then a text later saying she would collect but she was working till 3 so could she collect at 4? It was too late to really cancel it as DD was very excited. I did not agree to any other playdates for the rest of the summer and claimed we were busy. As it happened we ran into Jane having playdates at several other people's houses at various free and cheap activities going on during the summer. It seems Jane's mum and dad pretty much went round the whole class asking for playdates, then pretty much changed the times to 9-4 so neither had to use AL. It became a bit of a discussion between a lot of mums by the end of the summer holidays as quite a few mums felt very used - there are quite a few of us in DDs class on Maternity leave or have only just started going back to work so are not back working full hours yet (me included).

Anyway, since September when DD went into yr1 the friendship has drifted. They are sat on different tables it seems and DD has become closer to other friends. Earlier this week Jane's mum posted in the class Whatsapp about anyone wanting to do playdates over the holidays? She's had no takers. Those who responded have mentioned they are very busy over the holidays so will struggle to do a playdate, us included. We are genuinely busy catching up with friends, family and DD has a dance show at the end of November with a couple of rehearsals in the next few weekends.

Last night I got a text from Jane's mum asking if there was any possibility of a playdate at all in the holidays and that Jane misses DD since they are in different tables. DD isn't really bothered about Jane, also the last playdate they had in the summer was really hard work as it was 9-4 and they got fed up of each other and bickered. I'm kind of glad that the friendship has fizzled back a bit as it makes saying no to what are essentially cf childcare playdates easier as DD isn't good friends with Jane.

AIBU to let this fizzle out and not help. I have enough on with 2 small DC and don't want to be childcare for someone who cba to take AL and won't reciprocate a playdate and will effectively lie the night before to cover their working hours.

OP posts:
Shinyandnew1 · Today 17:30

If you are the one messaging a parent to set up a play date-you are offering it at your house! She is a CF and it sounds like everyone has realised.

Soreenmaltloaf23 · Today 17:31

Hi CF that's a lovely offer. I could do with a couple of hours to get some work done. What day shall I bring her?

Yesitsweird · Today 17:33

Say yes I think it's your turn, shall I drop her off at 9?

Btsstew · Today 17:34

A mother once wrote to me ‘ my child wants a play date with yours. Can I drop off at x time?’
you need to say no

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 17:34

You don't have to "not encourage the friendship", that's up to your DD. But you certainly don't have to provide free childcare to these people.

If your DD wanted to spend time with her and it wasn't an inconvenience I wouldn't stand in their way. But it sounds like she's not bothered, so you can just say you can't do it and leave it at that.

seahorsessky · Today 17:37

I wouldn't punish the kid for her parents. She actually needs all the chances she can get to be with non CFs so she can grow up better! But you say your daughter doesn't particularly want to, so fair enough.
I'd say maybe say Mykid will be available to meet with Yourkid but can she come to yours, as we're decorating/big brother is having all his mates round/the dog's sick, or else "yes, but I want to be clear it's only from 10-2, as last time you changed the times and that is not going to work for us".

Blackandyellow65 · Today 17:38

Yesitsweird · Today 17:33

Say yes I think it's your turn, shall I drop her off at 9?

This is the most sensible response. I’m sure she’ll be getting similar from everyone else she’s asking and might actually make her think about what she’s doing

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 17:39

If DD wants to, take her over to their house. If she doesn't, don't. If they try to change the venue to your house last minute, refuse.

DiscourteousDiana · Today 17:39

As someone who ended up having DS’s friend about once a week all the way through primary school and DS promptly being dropped when my services were no longer required in secondary school, this other mum can fuck off. I still get annoyed when I remember her cheeky arse texts ‘ooh just wondering if your DS fancies having a friend over for the day’. IE why should I take annual leave when you can just do it

Shinyandnew1 · Today 17:40

Yesitsweird · Today 17:33

Say yes I think it's your turn, shall I drop her off at 9?

Love this response. Can you send it just so it can tell us what she replies?!

ByOchreFish · Today 17:41

Say yes and ask what time to drop her off or suggest an outing with both of you present

RandomUserName12345 · Today 17:41

"Bring Jane at noon and we will give her a lift home at 3 pm. We will be on our way to an important arrangement so times ate 100% fixed. If it doesn't work for you we can't have Jane this hols. ".

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 17:43

Please message back and ask her if she means an actual play date or if shes looking for 9-4 free childcare again.

That should sort it.

Icecreamandcoffee · Today 17:45

It is 100% not a reciprocal offer. Another mum (new to the school this year) posted in the class chat a week ago about possible dates for a playdate at the soft play and Jane's mum replied that she was working all the holidays so she's 100% looking for childcare.

My DD isn't bothered about a playdate with Jane. She's asked and we have arranged to see a couple of other school friends.

I am sad for Jane as it's basically made it tricky for her to meet friends outside of school as I know a few mums were quite cross about been used as childcare when they were on Mat leave and juggling a baby and a kid and their friend.

OP posts:
DewDropsAndCobWebs · Today 17:45

Is say I wasn't able to host but did may be able to come over one Saturday if she's can host?

Shinyandnew1 · Today 17:45

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 17:43

Please message back and ask her if she means an actual play date or if shes looking for 9-4 free childcare again.

That should sort it.

That’s even better!

SumptuousPecanNougat · Today 17:48

Nope, you're busy. If they ended up bickering, it didn't work well last time, and now Jane is even less of an active friend with your daughter, you have every reason to expect it would be worse. Why would you make your life harder than it has to be?

SouthLondonMum22 · Today 17:51

Of course you aren't unreasonable. Just say again that you are busy.

Dandeloosha · Today 17:52

I would 100% say, ‘We’re flat out over Christmas but if Jane’s that keen I can drop Katie off at yours about 9am on the 20th and pick her up about 4pm. Thank you - that’s helped with the logistics a bit!’

Goofish · Today 18:03

Don't be sad for Jane. She'll be better off if her parents have to organise proper childcare. Stand firm.

Saying it's her turn is satisfying and a very effective way to bat this away but leaves a window of risk of future reciprocal swaps (CF's plan B) which she would then abuse. I'd stick with "no, can't, busy".

Also this may sound unhinged but a voice of experience - be careful who you answer your door to before 9am or so during half term... hopefully she won't be that brazen.

Youlostyourlemons · Today 18:05

Clearly you just say no as your dd has no interest in this girl. I utterly hate people like this who use people for their own personal gain and never reciprocate.

Houndsahollering · Today 18:08

I can’t believe that nobody has actually called this CF out. Seriously why wouldn’t you just tell her you’re all wise to it?!

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 18:09

Given your DD isn’t bothered I would just say you’re busy.

We had one parent like this and DS really liked the kid so I arranged afternoon play dates, soft play or museum meet ups for his sake. But if he hadn’t been bothered I wouldn’t have.

Hatty65 · Today 18:10

I'd text back, 'What day are you offering to have DD? It's very kind of you but we have a lot of plans already' and leave it at that.

If she's cheeky enough to respond 'Oh I wanted you to host' I'd just send a laughing emoji back.

She and her husband need to realise that they have a 5 yo in school and that the sooner they work out some proper childcare for the holidays that doesn't rely on acquaintances or near strangers doing it for free, the better. There are a lot of years to go...

SoThatsTheWayItIs · Today 18:10

You could message back and say "Thanks DD has always wanted to come to your house. I could drop on XXX day for a couple of hours as I have an appointment so this would be great timing. Let me know if this works for you!"