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Pure Cremation is body disposal right?

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josephiine · Yesterday 13:22

The advert makes it sound like it’s a lovely thing and saves money. I get that it’s cheaper but surely that’s because it is literally a body disposal service?
My FIL has just planned his, he asked my husband if he minds which he doesn’t, but it got us talking, am I missing anything?

OP posts:
rageagainstthemachine72 · Yesterday 13:42

We did direct cremation for my mother, but we had a church service on the same day. So service without the body being there, it was absolutely fine and a hell of a lot cheaper.

Crikeyalmighty · Yesterday 13:42

Personally I hate funerals so to me they make a lot of sense- you can also have a get together at the pub or a room and have speeches and pictures up if you want - I attended one like this and actually thought it was much nicer having a few speeches and some lovely pictures up on a pin board in the place it was held . Felt more like a low key social party -

FayeLP · Yesterday 13:43

My Mum’s cremation was through Pure Cremation (her choice).

She had a coffin, we could choose what went in it with her, our immediate family went to their facility in the countryside Hampshire where my Mum’s coffin was placed in a room like a chapel. We could choose music to be played in the background. We spent about half an hour in the room and then we left. A few days later her ashes were delivered to us.

I am sure it can just be ‘body disposal’ if that’s what you wish but what we had was actually lovely and simple and what my Mum wanted - she didn’t want a big service and a fuss.

Iheartmysmart · Yesterday 13:44

This is what my mum wants and has already paid for. Her ashes are to be scattered along with dad’s somewhere that has a lot of memories for us as a family. She doesn’t want any fuss.

Sparrowsandbudgies · Yesterday 13:44

We did a direct cremation for my Mum. We got the ashes back and scattered them somewhere she loved. We / she didn’t want a funeral as it would have literally have been just 4 people.

Faceonthewrongfoot · Yesterday 13:45

Feedingbirds · Yesterday 13:37

We actually found the funerals of close relatives quite traumatic and would much rather have been able to remember them in a different way . I will talk to my DC about what they would rather do and plan accordingly . I agree though that Pure Cremation ads are misleading

See, this is why I always find it odd that the dead person decides what happens after their death, when they are not the ones who experience it. The funeral is surely for the living to remember them/mourn them/say their goodbyes. Once someone is dead, why do they care what their funeral looks like? I think people should leave a sum of money (if they have it) to cover the costs of any funeral, and leave the decisions to the remaining family to decide whether they want a big funeral, a quiet celebration, or nothing at all. (Appreciate that wouldn't be practical if families can't agree...)

FayeLP · Yesterday 13:45

HorseandHeron · Yesterday 13:29

I think the ads are misleading. It sounds like a no-frills funeral but they just dispose of the body. There's no ceremony of saying goodbye to the person in their physical presence. So unless you come from a culture where there is a wake at home with the coffin first, I imagine it could leave you feeling unresolved. I had a beloved relative that went for this, and paid for everyone to go to the pub. But there was no ceremony, no speeches. No one knew what to do or say. Whereas for my dad's funeral, the chance to choose his favourite music, show slides of him through the ages, have people come up and give speeches about him, all in front of his coffin, which was decorated with his favourite flowers - that was very healing.

This isn’t the case. As I said above, for my Mum it was quite literally a low key funeral - the coffin, music etc, just no speeches and crowds of people.

shockmethen · Yesterday 13:45

HorseandHeron · Yesterday 13:29

I think the ads are misleading. It sounds like a no-frills funeral but they just dispose of the body. There's no ceremony of saying goodbye to the person in their physical presence. So unless you come from a culture where there is a wake at home with the coffin first, I imagine it could leave you feeling unresolved. I had a beloved relative that went for this, and paid for everyone to go to the pub. But there was no ceremony, no speeches. No one knew what to do or say. Whereas for my dad's funeral, the chance to choose his favourite music, show slides of him through the ages, have people come up and give speeches about him, all in front of his coffin, which was decorated with his favourite flowers - that was very healing.

Cremation service rooms are not very attractive. They are very sterile and a bit weird to me. Burgundy velvet curtain type places.
then the coffin goes through a curtain. I find it pretty awful

many people prefer to have a service or funeral type affair somewhere nicer or more personal

the actual cremation takes place away from everyone anyway

HelpMeGetThrough · Yesterday 13:45

At the end of the day, the body needs to be got rid of, so this seems the ideal way to me. I’ll be having a direct cremation or whatever it’s called. A lot cheaper and no faff of a service.

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 13:45

nomas · Yesterday 13:40

I would be prefer to be buried. Ideally under a tree near a stream. But I don't think that will happen.

Not a chance.
Burials are not allowed near water courses now.
Put in your will to be cremated and have your ashes scattered there instead.

WorthyOpalZebra · Yesterday 13:46

nomas · Yesterday 13:40

I would be prefer to be buried. Ideally under a tree near a stream. But I don't think that will happen.

You can pre-pay a green burial plot, if you feel strongly about it. There's restrictions about the type of coffin your have, and the burial ground will have guidelines about what can planted around you, so you need to leave specific instructions for whoever is arranging it.

BreezyClouds · Yesterday 13:48

Something like this with a relative of mine. I didn't really get it, it seemed to be 'they'll be cremated some time in the next few days' and my gran thought it might be a multiple body cremation rather than singularly. No ashes but I don't know if they were available.

The person was estranged from all next of kin but I think she had friends who'd have gone to a service. Maybe she requested it, best to think she did.

user9764875954 · Yesterday 13:48

Funerals are for the living, but if this was my kids preference I’d be perfectly happy with it. It’s definitely becoming increasingly popular - I can think of quite a few people who have chosen DC. No worse than a rushed crematorium service really.
Definitely don’t want to be buried - I hate being cold! 😂

AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · Yesterday 13:48

All funerals are a body disposal service OP.

This service just involves the least cost.

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 13:50

I think that people don’t actually attend funerals like they used to .A lot of people went to catch up with old workmates and family. Now we have the internet keeping in touch is much easier . Plus employers are very reluctant to give time off for funerals today unless it’s very close family. It’s a lot of money to pay out for a funeral that few people are going to attend .

Cocolapew · Yesterday 13:52

I'm doing this for my mum when the time come, she's an atheist and we don't have much family left to attend. The ones who will want to attend haven't bothered to come to see her while she's alive so they aren't coming to any funeral.

Slumgullion · Yesterday 13:52

WorthyOpalZebra · Yesterday 13:46

You can pre-pay a green burial plot, if you feel strongly about it. There's restrictions about the type of coffin your have, and the burial ground will have guidelines about what can planted around you, so you need to leave specific instructions for whoever is arranging it.

Yes, I think it's shroud only, and no coffin, and no embalming of the body at the woodland burial place I'm aware of. I think some are OK with willow caskets.

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 13:54

shockmethen · Yesterday 13:45

Cremation service rooms are not very attractive. They are very sterile and a bit weird to me. Burgundy velvet curtain type places.
then the coffin goes through a curtain. I find it pretty awful

many people prefer to have a service or funeral type affair somewhere nicer or more personal

the actual cremation takes place away from everyone anyway

You don’t have to watch the coffin go through the curtain anymore. You can all leave the chapel of rest and the coffin goes through the curtain then .

Slumgullion · Yesterday 13:56

AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · Yesterday 13:48

All funerals are a body disposal service OP.

This service just involves the least cost.

Yes, though I'm amused at how much pushy, warm-and-fuzzy advertising it's getting on daytime TV at the moment. I had minor surgery recently and spent a couple of days on the sofa with my leg elevated, and saw endless ads in which perky, good-looking older women with nice hair got very enthusiastic indeed about having pre-bought a direct cremation so that their children wouldn't have the faff of organising a funeral. The bouncy tone was the same as 'I've just found a lovely company that are going to buy my house for pots of cash and still let me live there till I die!' and 'X Energy Company are so cheap and easy to change over to!'

HorseandHeron · Yesterday 13:56

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 13:36

THere is nothing at all to stop you having a memorial service and speeches and music
you just do not have a coffin or time deadline

you can either wait for the ashes to come back
or make the scattering of ashes a chance to visit favourite places with a purpose

I know. But the point I was making is that it was oddly healing to have his body there, in the coffin, as we all remembered him so fondly. To be there to say goodbye. To have the body of a loved one sent off to burn with no one there to show their love and respect feels odd to me.

kxeil · Yesterday 13:57

Error404FucksNotFound · Yesterday 13:38

yup. Burn em and bag em.
That's what I want. No faff, no fuss.

Same. I’ve told my kids and they are both fine with it. They both want a direct cremation too.

Yellowpingu · Yesterday 13:57

We had a direct cremation via a local undertaker for my DM. It was much cheaper and fairly straightforward. In all other aspects they treat it the same as any other cremation, taking the body in a hearse and they’re suitably attired. We could have opted for flowers but they talked me out of that! We chose an end of day slot and requested that a particular song be played. We listened to it at the same time. We’ve got her ashes back and we’re planning a celebration of her life at a later date. We’ll scatter some of her ashes here and some where she lives for over 30 years. The only thing that annoyed me was the crematorium getting in touch afterwards and trying to flog me ridiculously priced, unnecessary things like a plot in their grounds and a handwritten note in a ledger that was £300 alone.

OffTheMap · Yesterday 13:58

We had a direct cremation for both my parents - they were emphatic about not wanting a funeral.

Do not use one of these companies. Totally unnecessary and bound to cause more expense.

We arranged through the local undertaker. The first time, they told us the date and time of the cremation - which takes place at the local crematorium. We had chosen not to attend. In the end my sibling couldn't bear it and turned up. The kind operatives let her in - they did have my parent's name on a nice screen, and were very respectful - even tho they expected no one to be there. There is a cheaper option where you do not know the time and date - they just fit in at their convenience.

The next time we opted to have the small number of family members present at the crematorium - they allow a limited number of people for a short time with the coffin rather than a service etc. Again - all very calm and respectful - they played music of our choice and we sat with the coffin for a few moments in the crem before saying good bye and leaving. It was short and private.

All this was a very reasonable price - much cheaper than a typical crem service.

We collected ashes in due course.

There needs to be an undertaker in any case, so just do it through your local trusted company who can talk you through the options.

CMOTDibbler · Yesterday 13:58

My parents had unattended cremations due to the logistics (height of COVID), but I think detaching the body disposal from the celebration of life makes a lot of sense - you can bring everyone together to mourn them as quickly as you like (no waiting 4 weeks for a funeral), and in whatever way you want - whether that's in a church, pub, field or beach and with as much or as little 'fuss' like flowers and music as you want. The (very lovely, kind and helpful) funeral directors said that they could facilitate whatever we wanted, but actually scattering their ashes (yes, they came back separately and all very dignified) in a place they loved was enough closure

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 13:59

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 13:30

And you presumably also don’t need to pay for a coffin because a coffin is obviously needed if you’re having a service but not otherwise.

My recently deceased Uncle did not want a funeral. Some of his body has gone to London for medical research, as per his request, and the rest is being cremated without a service. His next of kin will receive the ashes to do as they wish with them.

You do have to have a coffin but it would be a cardboard one .