To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

[CoventryCity]

A continuation of Thread 1.

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. Why? Well many reasons.. Here are just two.

Eg. They won't release sex crime statistics of immigrants / asylum seekers. Why? Other European countries have done, and it is not pretty. Our gvt gives out a leaflet asking them not to rape the locals. Why? Our gvt has said they won't house asylum seekers next to schools and nurseries, why?

Eg. UK now spends more on benefits than it earns in income tax. Labour have increased this - not reduced it. Astonishing. As they say - "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?" That's Labour's Welfare Secretary. He's describing the priorities of Labour MPs.

In the last financial year, the UK government brought in £331 billion in income tax — and spent even more, £333 billion, on welfare, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility's latest economic and fiscal outlook (obr.uk/efo/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-march-2026/#chapter-6).

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Phillipson and co smirking won’t help. 4000 jobs at risk.

I do hence I get to read what I want to see. Lucky eh

Yeah. Facebook it seems.

Anyway, a FOI request does not mean that the requested info is evidence for anything, right ? I could do an FOI request on how much the MOD spends on baked beans, and what brands they buy.

The instructions are here.

Freedom of Information - UK Parliament

Exactly and the uk armed forces had a similar leaflet produced for them in 2015.

Nope I’m not on FB, you might be idk. Or perhaps you go for less female dominated sites than mn instead.

The FOI request is to the MoJ. I’m happy to see what the appeal determines, perhaps Labour will lose and have to release.

You mean the jobs that the billionaire owners are making redundant.... to make more money ?

Or are the business owners all really socialists, and it is "evil" labour politicians that have some nefarious new world order planned ? Cos Satan or something.

More than 40% of them have convictions for domestic violence

Convictions or reports? Do you have a link?

The gov is actually meant to care about jobs.

And they have to deal with some pretty mean people that don't.

While being left to pick up the pieces after those mean people have done their stuff, all in the name of them becoming richer.

And you think the ultra rich who make the redundancies care about you, as you score your X on your ballot ?

There is no link to support the claim that 40% of all of those protestors had criminal convictions. There is data on those who were arrested at the protests, but people who are inclined to behave in ways that get them arrested in such circumstances are of course more likely to have prior convictions. Using their offending history to smear everybody who protested is obviously dishonest and disingenuous, perhaps deliberately so.

Hate to break it to you but most dividends paid to "shareholders" are actually paid into our pension funds, as pension funds are often significant shareholders in all kinds of companies. Our pension funds would collapse if firms stopped marking profits and stopped paying dividends.

So the women are lying. Fabulous default from the protectors of are women n children.

Minimising and enabling assault. Lovely.

Shelter have a list:

You can usually get benefits in the UK if you have:

• British or Irish citizenship
• EU settled status
• indefinite leave to remain (ILR)
• refugee status or humanitarian protection
• a visa under the Ukraine family scheme or the Homes for Ukraine scheme.

You have to meet extra conditions if you have EU pre-settled status.
You might be able to get UC if the EU settlement scheme is still dealing with your application.

You can sometimes get Home Office permission to claim benefits if your relationship ends because of domestic abuse.

Commonwealth citizens
You can get UC if you're habitually resident and have right of abode.

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/universal_credit_immigration_and_residence_conditions

I think most people can apply for indefinite leave to remain after 5 years - Shabana Mahmood was supposed to be changing that, but who knows...

Accusations are not a reliable metric

Oh really.

You post makes very little sense as a response to mine to be honest with you. Did you quote the right person?

I mean Jim earned all his wealth. He grew up in poverty, just studied hard, worked hard and turned round a chemicals company to make it super profitable. I understand why he's left the UK. Who wouldn't?

We don't worry about our car or the heating. We have 2 cars.

I understand why firms invest in AI. It's the future. Sometimes if you're not cutting it you'll get let go.

What are you on about the taxpayers?.they are the taxpayer and pay a lot of it.

I mean surely they are best served back home in their home nation..they aren't the responsibility of the United States of America.

If you enter illegally, you should be detained and returned home.

You think? Best served in a country at war? In the midst of famine? Drought? How the fuck did we get to such callousness?

Still doesn't make them the US' problem

The women and children who come to the UK seeking asylum are not going to be best served in their home nation are they? They are here seeking protection from what they've experienced there. If you want to deport them back to it, it does make your claim of prioritising the safety of women and children look a bit like...an excuse? A woman from Afghanistan is no less a woman. A baby from Eritrea is a child like any other.

The system isn’t designed for women. Especially under Labour with new policies re family reunification.

Sadly I'm not even surprised.

Compared to what the previous lot did to the country in 14 years I think Labour are bloody wonderful!

Oh, shit, I just realised that when I see a cute (cute to me) dog in the street, I approach it, make kissing noises and put my grubby paws on the beast. I need to rethink my behaviour....

The UK exists to protect and safeguard UK citizens. They shouldn't be the charity to whole world. We can't fall for each single emotional arguement.

The safety of British women and children is paramount.