To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

[CoventryCity]

A continuation of Thread 1.

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. Why? Well many reasons.. Here are just two.

Eg. They won't release sex crime statistics of immigrants / asylum seekers. Why? Other European countries have done, and it is not pretty. Our gvt gives out a leaflet asking them not to rape the locals. Why? Our gvt has said they won't house asylum seekers next to schools and nurseries, why?

Eg. UK now spends more on benefits than it earns in income tax. Labour have increased this - not reduced it. Astonishing. As they say - "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?" That's Labour's Welfare Secretary. He's describing the priorities of Labour MPs.

In the last financial year, the UK government brought in £331 billion in income tax — and spent even more, £333 billion, on welfare, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility's latest economic and fiscal outlook (obr.uk/efo/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-march-2026/#chapter-6).

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But it hasn't gone up. Even the source you quoted in the previous thread says asylum applications have reduced. Per my post above.

No. Mass immigration has happened all over Europe, is actually changing the face of Europe. As @EasternStandard said and as I said earlier. Correlation is not causation, you should understand that by now.

Ah. You must be an "elite" like me then :-)

You know, wanting to stick to the point rather than doing a tour of the tunnels in Watership Down.

I used to debate flat earthers. They do the same as the OP.

No because we had high asylum claims pre Brexit just via lorries. And no other countries use the DA to return people en masse, unless you can think of one.

The EU countries that are hardline are using domestic policies not the DA.

I asked her a very direct, factual question. She chose not to answer it.

And the lorries were fixed by using Co2 probes.

Small boats can be fixed as well. Just takes time to do the deals to shut down the factories making them, and the people selling them. And that is what is happening. It was happening under the Tories, and is being continued under labour.

All while Farage and palls are in the news yelling "OPEN BORDERS".

True, but when certain actions exacerbated the problem in the UK, that is definitely causation.

CoventryCity I don't really want a load of undocumented men coming here either (though happy with immigrants through the proper routes and work with a couple of excellent ones)

However

Parties like Reform are implying that asylum seekers on small boats are responsible for about 50% of the UK's problems and that Reform will get into power and easily solve it

Whereas in reality: Small boats are more likely responsible for about 0.5% of the UK's problems and neither the Tories nor Labour found it easy to solve and neither will Reform

We did indeed have high asylum claims before Brexit. But the asylum claims increased as a result of Brexit.

Also, there we had the highest rate of rejection in the EU, and there were more things we could have done should we have chosen to, but we didn't.

Ha ha - you literally quoted me from a joke phrase I was using about you and cardi, as that is what you were doing. Hilarious! Not got a clue.

They imprison babies and small children in these detention centres in overcrowded cells, with mouldy food and a lack of basic supplies such as nappies. Unlike you, I certainly don't want such cruel and inhumane policies and practices in the UK.

Hopefully there are enough decent people in the UK so that there won't be a genuine will to do the same.

Oh dear, dear Soots, are you feeling left out? I don't know what you're talking about. Do tell.

The DA isn’t a factor. Any EU country that is hardline uses domestic policies.

Can you cite any EU country that has used the DA to even get close to dealing with migration / asylum issues?

If you can I’ll have a look.

Yeah I don't think detention centres are the answer either. We need to stop mass immigration. Australia managed it. Denmark? I am sure we can, if there was a will. But there is not. And UK women and girls don't matter any more than a leaflet.

You didn't answer the question I asked, which was a simple factual one. I'll draw my own conclusions.

Not got a clue about what ?

UK immigration ? Actually I do. DP and DD are not British passport holders. So I do know a bit about UK immigration rules.

I agree that Reform are not good. Hopefully they will disappear as soon as they arrived.

But undocumented unknown males from misogynistic countries, and mass immigration, is a big problem.

For eg. how many rapes by asylum seekers / immigrants from these countries is enough to do something about it? There were 3 on Brighton beach in 2 weeks. And a gang rape there before that. There is a lot data on this from other countries of course, as Labour are blocking release of UK data.

She's claiming not to have a clue what the question I asked her was - that she chose to ignore despite being active on the thread at the time.

Sooty - I am sorry you feel rejected. It happens. You have my undivided attention. What was the question?

You could have answered it at the time if you'd chosen to do so.

😆I didn't see it. Jeesh you take accidental rejection personally.

As I said - I'll draw my own conclusions. Have a pleasant day.

They come from nations where they women are treated poorly and they do attack women.

Afghan nationals 3/4 times more. Not the *22 but still higher

😆Wow. And so will I xx