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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 14:02

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 13:37

I've missed all of these deletions (working and all), never mind! I am sure I didn't miss much.. Calling me racist? reform supporter? a bot?

Probably..

These people lost any credibility they might have had when they tried to tell us all that men were women, and we had to call these men women, and shut up complaining. The fact they were prepared to argue against actual science - tells us all we need to know.

There was a deletion of a vile right wing conspiracy theory thank goodness.

mrschocolatte · 21/09/2026 14:03

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 13:45

I suppose putting the government popularity on a par with a football club sums up how seriously the country's welfare is taken.

Nope. Not what I meant at all.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:03

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 13:59

@CoventryCity

Just remember OP - whatever shit is slung at you on this thread, you are absolutely correct.

Don’t let the bastards get you down.

You’re going to get it in spades op. It’s still a high cost, doubling by 2030.

MaturingCheeseball · 21/09/2026 14:04

But you only have to look at many town centres to see that the migration to this country of certain people is a) too great and b) troublesome.

Groups of men hanging around and leering at women is to my mind horrible. I have seen this in London, Reading and Bournemouth.

“Oh, British men….” yada yada. Of course there are lone weirdos and domestic abusers, but hissing and blocking a woman/girl’s path and smoking in groups in playgrounds - nope.

I have been going to football matches since a teen with thousands of men. Never been bothered. Not once. Walking through a part of Reading (and I am not young!) was very uncomfortable.

It is complete gaslighting to say that migrants/asylum seekers are not a threat to women.

PaulGalicoagain · 21/09/2026 14:05

EasternStandard too...!

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:05

CurlewKate · 21/09/2026 13:49

Explain why you think the government which has been in power for less than 3 years is responsible for the mess?

I thought Starmer and Reeves had fixed the foundations?

Mouldemort · 21/09/2026 14:05

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 13:40

It is 100% correct. Sorry to disappoint you in your unfounded arrogance. Look at the migration observatory facts. Sigh.

I've looked. The number of claimants have gone down.

In addition, net migration has fallen from a high of 944K under the Tories to 171K under Labour.

I realise this doesn't suit your narrative, and it really isn't about numbers at all.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:06

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 14:02

There was a deletion of a vile right wing conspiracy theory thank goodness.

Hey Q for you.

If I sold a business or part of it, and realised a gain of GBP 10m - how much tax should I pay on it, IYHO?

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 14:07

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 13:40

It is 100% correct. Sorry to disappoint you in your unfounded arrogance. Look at the migration observatory facts. Sigh.

I have, and your claim is patently not correct.

Asylum claimant figures rose dramatically under the tories, and have been falling under labour. That's literally what your source says.

RowsOfFlowers · 21/09/2026 14:07

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:55

The Times is also reporting PIP is set to double by 2030, which sounds quite steep. It’ll be £45bn a year.

its too much!

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:07

PaulGalicoagain · 21/09/2026 14:05

EasternStandard too...!

What? @PaulGalicoagaintoo!

People can post non Labour stuff you know. If you don’t want to see it there’s other Labour platforms.

RowsOfFlowers · 21/09/2026 14:07

Mouldemort · 21/09/2026 14:05

I've looked. The number of claimants have gone down.

In addition, net migration has fallen from a high of 944K under the Tories to 171K under Labour.

I realise this doesn't suit your narrative, and it really isn't about numbers at all.

Where are you getting these stats from?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:07

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:01

Hide or scroll on by - but you’re not going to do that are you?

It happens on every similar thread. The pile ons aren't working anymore either. .

Mouldemort · 21/09/2026 14:08

MaturingCheeseball · 21/09/2026 14:04

But you only have to look at many town centres to see that the migration to this country of certain people is a) too great and b) troublesome.

Groups of men hanging around and leering at women is to my mind horrible. I have seen this in London, Reading and Bournemouth.

“Oh, British men….” yada yada. Of course there are lone weirdos and domestic abusers, but hissing and blocking a woman/girl’s path and smoking in groups in playgrounds - nope.

I have been going to football matches since a teen with thousands of men. Never been bothered. Not once. Walking through a part of Reading (and I am not young!) was very uncomfortable.

It is complete gaslighting to say that migrants/asylum seekers are not a threat to women.

The biggest collection of wife-beaters and nonces are not asylum seekers, but the balaclava wearing morons who are burning down houses and smashing up police cars. Two in five of the far right rioters already had convictions for domestic abuse, another one in five have since been arrested for the same.

Your anecdotes are not evidence.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:09

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:07

It happens on every similar thread. The pile ons aren't working anymore either. .

What’s with that anyway. The cost is going to double. It’s going to need to be looked at.

It’s not the op doing that, as much as pp sling stuff at her.

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 14:10

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 13:42

Well at least those people have receipts for what they paid in so I don't think they will be being guilt tripped. I don't buy the argument that it's merely a benefit they are receiving.

Pensions are not paid for out of tax paid 20 years ago.

People working today are currently paying the pensions of people drawing their money now.

The issue being, of course, is that with an ageing population the pension spend goes up and there are less people of working age to prop the whole scheme up.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:11

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 14:10

Pensions are not paid for out of tax paid 20 years ago.

People working today are currently paying the pensions of people drawing their money now.

The issue being, of course, is that with an ageing population the pension spend goes up and there are less people of working age to prop the whole scheme up.

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I'm talking about these who have put in and not just taken out.

StandingDeskDisco · 21/09/2026 14:11

Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 12:42

Not necessarily. I worked in a factory with a lot of Eastern Europeans and a lot moaned about money, even though money was above nmw. I work with a Polish lady now who constantly moans about her wage, again above nmw and she has been on multiple holidays this year

That is just small talk. The equivalent of moaning about the weather.
It is a different matter entirely to collectivise and demand the employer changes things.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 14:15

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:06

Hey Q for you.

If I sold a business or part of it, and realised a gain of GBP 10m - how much tax should I pay on it, IYHO?

If it was you personally I would confiscate the lot and use it to help disabled people and asylum seekers.😊

DontSayItsOver · 21/09/2026 14:20

JustaDomperignon · 21/09/2026 11:38

Totally agree with you. It's gerrymandering.

That’s…not what gerrymandering is.

Anyways as for your post, I don’t think the two are necessarily directly related. Clacton-on-Sea is the constituency with the highest number of PIP claimants and it’s a Reform stronghold.

It’s a moot point anyway. PIP will double by 2030, the same year the last of the Boriswave will receive ILR, and 4 years on from the current wave of layoffs, redundancies, AI steers, population increase, small business closures and offshoring that is currently taking jobs away.

Whoever is in government then will be forced to make a structural change to the welfare system whether they like it or no.

I suspect something along the lines of UBI, and another immigration wave with restrictions on workers having to stay in social care roles for the duration of their visas.

KeepPumping · 21/09/2026 14:23

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 11:36

I claim benefits as I am physically disabled.

the articles are about numbers of disabled people in constituencies. It’s implied (but not stated) that the reason Labour mps will not cut pip is because all the people on pip will vote them out.

i think this is
a not true
b people on pip vote in a number of ways not all of them Labour
c Labour mps have generally come into office to help the poor and disabled and cutting pip isn’t part of what they want to do.

all that aside, what have the government actually done that you object to?

A lot of benefits claimants vote Reform because they don"t want immigrants taking their benefits.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 14:25

KeepPumping · 21/09/2026 14:23

A lot of benefits claimants vote Reform because they don"t want immigrants taking their benefits.

Do they realise their Dear Leader wants to cut their benefits?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:25

KeepPumping · 21/09/2026 14:23

A lot of benefits claimants vote Reform because they don"t want immigrants taking their benefits.

Nice generalisation there. Is what you said somehow different to benefit bashing when it's Labour voters drawing benefits?

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:25

HandPulledNoodles · 21/09/2026 13:47

The figures just don’t support that. Home Office data shows asylum claims down 21% in the latest year and small-boat arrivals down 23%. The Migration Observatory also says the initial-decision backlog has fallen 62% since Labour took office.

Some measures have risen notably the appeals backlog but “asylum seekers have increased significantly every year” simply isn’t true.

It is true. I know you don't like it, but you can't change facts because you don't like them. The number of 'asylum seekers' has increased every quarter since 2024. Seriously do some proper research.

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MaturingCheeseball · 21/09/2026 14:27

Mouldemort · 21/09/2026 14:08

The biggest collection of wife-beaters and nonces are not asylum seekers, but the balaclava wearing morons who are burning down houses and smashing up police cars. Two in five of the far right rioters already had convictions for domestic abuse, another one in five have since been arrested for the same.

Your anecdotes are not evidence.

Are you saying I’m lying? Because that’s what it sounds like.

Two or three wrongs don’t make a right. I don’t like wife-beaters or nonces and I do not like sex pests/rapists from cultures that disrespect women. Your denying that these men are a problem is political posturing.

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