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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 14:27

Two things that have massively ruined the economy long term are things that the Conservatives did when in power.

Margaret Thatcher took the revenue from North Sea oil and the proceeds of selling off council houses with massive discounts and spent it all on privatising energy and water and what a success that has been! All the profits going on shareholder dividends while the infrastructure crumbles and the last new reservoir was created over 30 years ago. The Norwegian government used the profits from North Sea Oil to create a sovereign wealth fund for all its citizens which is now worth $2.2 trillion.

Then of course there is one of the most ridiculous examples of self-harm by a country with the Brexit vote.

Conservative governments are generally shit but they have governed the UK for decades. Whenever a Labour government is elected, right-wingers literally cannot stop whinging and whining. And they call the left 'snowflakes'!

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 14:28

Mouldemort · 21/09/2026 14:05

I've looked. The number of claimants have gone down.

In addition, net migration has fallen from a high of 944K under the Tories to 171K under Labour.

I realise this doesn't suit your narrative, and it really isn't about numbers at all.

Yes - the bright and successful are leaving. The people we are allowing in (legally and illegally)- not so much!

HandPulledNoodles · 21/09/2026 14:28

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:25

It is true. I know you don't like it, but you can't change facts because you don't like them. The number of 'asylum seekers' has increased every quarter since 2024. Seriously do some proper research.

“Seriously do some proper research” would land better if you could actually name the statistic you’re talking about.

The Home Office says asylum claims are down 21% year-on-year. The Migration Observatory says the initial-decision backlog has fallen substantially.

So spare me the lecture and post your source. Otherwise you're demonstrating again that you're a bad faith poster and everyone can see you.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:28

thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 14:27

Two things that have massively ruined the economy long term are things that the Conservatives did when in power.

Margaret Thatcher took the revenue from North Sea oil and the proceeds of selling off council houses with massive discounts and spent it all on privatising energy and water and what a success that has been! All the profits going on shareholder dividends while the infrastructure crumbles and the last new reservoir was created over 30 years ago. The Norwegian government used the profits from North Sea Oil to create a sovereign wealth fund for all its citizens which is now worth $2.2 trillion.

Then of course there is one of the most ridiculous examples of self-harm by a country with the Brexit vote.

Conservative governments are generally shit but they have governed the UK for decades. Whenever a Labour government is elected, right-wingers literally cannot stop whinging and whining. And they call the left 'snowflakes'!

You stayed quiet when Labour were in opposition, I take it?.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:28

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:07

It happens on every similar thread. The pile ons aren't working anymore either. .

Agreed.

And the R card has been done - it has no power, anymore.

hattie43 · 21/09/2026 14:29

loulouljh · 21/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you whole heartedly. The country is a mess.

Agreed

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:29

thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 14:27

Two things that have massively ruined the economy long term are things that the Conservatives did when in power.

Margaret Thatcher took the revenue from North Sea oil and the proceeds of selling off council houses with massive discounts and spent it all on privatising energy and water and what a success that has been! All the profits going on shareholder dividends while the infrastructure crumbles and the last new reservoir was created over 30 years ago. The Norwegian government used the profits from North Sea Oil to create a sovereign wealth fund for all its citizens which is now worth $2.2 trillion.

Then of course there is one of the most ridiculous examples of self-harm by a country with the Brexit vote.

Conservative governments are generally shit but they have governed the UK for decades. Whenever a Labour government is elected, right-wingers literally cannot stop whinging and whining. And they call the left 'snowflakes'!

Why hasn’t Burnham signed off Rosebank?

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:31

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 14:15

If it was you personally I would confiscate the lot and use it to help disabled people and asylum seekers.😊

And if it was anyone other than me?

Sorry, I don’t really go in for emojis and GIFS.

Differentforgirls · 21/09/2026 14:32

Spaniels4Eva · 21/09/2026 11:46

As a small business owner, I feel despair. We are trying to exist alongside a Government that doesn't want us to succeed and employ people.

As a mother/grandmother, I feel even more despair at the undocumented men we're giving a red carpet to on a daily basis.

Reform?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:32

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:31

And if it was anyone other than me?

Sorry, I don’t really go in for emojis and GIFS.

They just can't help getting personal, can they?

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:33

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 11:36

I claim benefits as I am physically disabled.

the articles are about numbers of disabled people in constituencies. It’s implied (but not stated) that the reason Labour mps will not cut pip is because all the people on pip will vote them out.

i think this is
a not true
b people on pip vote in a number of ways not all of them Labour
c Labour mps have generally come into office to help the poor and disabled and cutting pip isn’t part of what they want to do.

all that aside, what have the government actually done that you object to?

C. may be the case as Reeves and Starmer found out when they wanted to cut PIP. But that £46bn per year will be part of the assessment now by the OBR for Labour’s ‘fiscal headroom’.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/09/2026 14:34

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/09/2026 12:48

It is racist to assume any 'immigrant' is a rapist. There are white grooming gangs too.

Thats not what was said.

DeflectionAndWhataboutery · 21/09/2026 14:35

PaulGalicoagain · 21/09/2026 13:31

Its @CoventryCity again..and again..and again.

Usual suspects, usual script.

Differentforgirls · 21/09/2026 14:36

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 11:59

Benefits need reigning in - massively. Never mind scrapping the child benefit cap, scrap child benefit. Have better benefits for those that fall on hard times. But if you have children knowing full well that someone else is going to have to pay for them is so wrong.

So scrap free childcare?

Ponoka7 · 21/09/2026 14:36

It was depressing to see the contract renewed to the Australia’s Corporate Travel Management, contract of £100 million, who ran Bibby Stockholm and overcharged the UK by £130 million and have only paid a third back.
Andy Burnham changed the buses across Merseyside and it's been a shit show. Our local hospital and schools had to get involved so staff and pupils etc could get in on time. It was back to everyone doing what they want and it's one big joke, not a essential public service. It's been disappointing.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:36

DeflectionAndWhataboutery · 21/09/2026 14:35

Usual suspects, usual script.

Ditto for this stuff.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:37

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:36

Ditto for this stuff.

Yes. I agree.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:38

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:32

They just can't help getting personal, can they?

Very true.

Also has a penchant to dodge valid Q’s, too.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:39

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 14:36

Ditto for this stuff.

The old reverse flounce.

Still love that.

Ponoka7 · 21/09/2026 14:39

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 11:59

Benefits need reigning in - massively. Never mind scrapping the child benefit cap, scrap child benefit. Have better benefits for those that fall on hard times. But if you have children knowing full well that someone else is going to have to pay for them is so wrong.

How does that fit with asylum seekers/immigration and people who have babies in famine/climate crisis/war zones?

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:40

Ponoka7 · 21/09/2026 14:39

How does that fit with asylum seekers/immigration and people who have babies in famine/climate crisis/war zones?

They take second place to any Brits who need support.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:40

HandPulledNoodles · 21/09/2026 14:28

“Seriously do some proper research” would land better if you could actually name the statistic you’re talking about.

The Home Office says asylum claims are down 21% year-on-year. The Migration Observatory says the initial-decision backlog has fallen substantially.

So spare me the lecture and post your source. Otherwise you're demonstrating again that you're a bad faith poster and everyone can see you.

Omg! This is embarrassing for you and anyone who insists on denying reality. I am not surprised.

I've referenced my source. I guess people see what they want to see. Univ of Ox Migration Observatory - suggest you look there. I'm bored with these childish denials now, they tell us a lot though.

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BlackRowan · 21/09/2026 14:41

I absolutely hated the last governments - plural. Sunak was best of their lot. Boris and Truss were the absolute worst. Actually Cameron was also awful.
both for Brexit which is death sentence to the economy and for 14 years of austerity where they squandered the economic growth years and just suffocated all the public services.

bur guess what! We had to endure them until they were voted out. So you will also be able to do it until the next change.

HandPulledNoodles · 21/09/2026 14:42

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:40

Omg! This is embarrassing for you and anyone who insists on denying reality. I am not surprised.

I've referenced my source. I guess people see what they want to see. Univ of Ox Migration Observatory - suggest you look there. I'm bored with these childish denials now, they tell us a lot though.

I've literally cited Migration Observatory in my response with percentages. The source you quoted.

You're embarrassing yourself. We see you.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 14:42

Islamic and neighbouring Arab countries have not taken in refugees from Gaza during the recent conflict, maintaining a strict policy of zero permanent resettlement.

Position of Neighbouring States.

  • Egypt and Jordan: Leaders from both nations, including Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi and Jordan's King Abdullah II, explicitly refused to accept displaced populations from Gaza across their borders, calling it a "red line".
  • Other Muslim-Majority Nations: Countries like Turkey, Qatar, Algeria, and Saudi Arabia have also declined to admit refugees from the enclave, choosing instead to focus on humanitarian aid delivery and diplomatic pressure for ceasefires.

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