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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:18

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 21:14

The UK was a net recipient of asylum seekers under the agreement in any case.

Yes and very low numbers, like other countries.

placemats · 21/09/2026 21:20

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:18

Yes and very low numbers, like other countries.

Perhaps you can answer the question.

What's the Dublin agreement?

Crikeyalmighty · 21/09/2026 21:25

Spaniels4Eva · 21/09/2026 11:46

As a small business owner, I feel despair. We are trying to exist alongside a Government that doesn't want us to succeed and employ people.

As a mother/grandmother, I feel even more despair at the undocumented men we're giving a red carpet to on a daily basis.

Asa small business owner they have done absolutely nothing that’s affected me negatively -depends how small you are -they actually doubled employers NI allowance, I don’t actually pay any now - it’s all offsetsble against corp tax anyway - A lot blame tight markets and poor conditions on the gvt when the reality is trading conditions are not great in many business areas due to lots of factors , declining markets, online sales, AI, competition , people’s spending priorities etc !! And your second point . It was worse under the Tory’s due to their ludicrous policies- so I’m not getting your point - if you expect any gvt to fix the last 14 years of poor planning and self imposed sanctions in a jiffy -then you are in for a shock

placemats · 21/09/2026 21:25

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9031/

@CoventryCity @EasternStandard @Clavinova

The Dublin agreement was a result of Brexit. Piss poor intelligent people like Farage, Johnson and Gove forced that done deal through.

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 21:27

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:03

2016-2021, under the Tories then.

Well, to be fair, freedom of movement for Bulgarians didn't officially start until 2014 - a date chosen by the Labour government, who agreed to Bulgaria and Romania joining the EU - despite warnings about corruption in those two countries. Labour had the veto power at the time and chose not to use it.

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:29

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 21:27

Well, to be fair, freedom of movement for Bulgarians didn't officially start until 2014 - a date chosen by the Labour government, who agreed to Bulgaria and Romania joining the EU - despite warnings about corruption in those two countries. Labour had the veto power at the time and chose not to use it.

To be fair, the fraud occured under a Conservative government

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 21:34

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:29

To be fair, the fraud occured under a Conservative government

'Thousands' of Bulgarians defrauding the British taxpayer - one reason not to rejoin the EU.

Similar problem with Romanians and student loans - obvious scam still ongoing under Labour;
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/student-loans-eu-citizens-settled-status-xsxj3s3xp

tootiredtobeinspired · 21/09/2026 21:36

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 16:37

Oh stop it you silly billy. Asylum seeker numbers are up. You can say migration is down and that is correct because labour have stopped the student visa scam etc.

Asylum seeker numbers - are still up. And increasing. And it is on that very website.

Ah ok so you object to any kind of immigrant, even those fleeing war or terrible situations? It doesnt matter that migration is down, you still need something to complain about. Seems to me that you are either just on the wind up or else you have fallen so far down the GB News/ Daily Mail/ Telegraph propaganda rabbit hole there is no hope for you.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:40

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 21:12

It was Jaywick you were thinking of - which represents around 5.5% of the total parliamentary constituency.

No. It's Clacton. Here is an excerpt from The Times. Perhaps take it up with them if you think they have it wrong. They can publish a correction.

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?
DdraigGoch · 21/09/2026 21:41

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 14:28

Yes - the bright and successful are leaving. The people we are allowing in (legally and illegally)- not so much!

That bright and successful people are leaving is largely down to policies the Tories implemented. The 60p tax trap in particular.

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 21:43

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 21:16

Indeed. And personally, I think it's utterly inhumane that anyone would think it's ok to uproot someone who is experiencing a lifechanging illness or disability from their home of many years, potentially separating them from their loved ones, after they have paid into our welfare state for decades. Simply because they have the passport. That is not the kind of society that I want to live in.

Then what does it mean to be a citizen then?

Being a citizen of the UK should be sacred and actually mean something.

The welfare state and all benefits are finite. The UK should always prioritise UK citizens. If someone has ILR, they can always apply for citizenship to be fully commited to Britain.

As a UK citizen this is a sort of country I'd fully be happy with living in (because I'm a citizen).

Maomee · 21/09/2026 21:48

What we're really suffering from is severely depressed wages. It's at the point now where it's literally not even worth going to work especially now no one can afford to buy a home, you are better off having the government pay your rent rather than working yourself to the bone 40+hours/week. I'm pretty sure the majority of people on average salaries only go to work out of being indoctrinated into thinking it's the 'right' thing to do. And I say all this as someone who works full time on a very average salary lol. I do believe the only reason I go is because my family all worked. They got to see more for their money though, so there was still a point when they started their careers.

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:49

backformoreofthesame · 21/09/2026 11:55

They won’t cut benefits - well that’s good isn’t it? Protect the poor and look to build a more equal and working society surely is the right thing

id hate to be like America where you can die if you can’t afford insulin because you lose your job through no fault of your own

I think it’s pretty sick how some people would rather others live in abject misery and poverty so they can get an extra take out each week

I'm yet to meet somebody that thinks genuinely deserving disabled people shouldn't be looked after. It's all the pisstakers that people have an issue with, although I've no idea how you'd address the latter without impacting some of the former in the process.

But I often think of the asst Taekwondo teacher I had as a teen. He walked with a stick and used to apparently claim to have a bad back and reduced mobility. However, once the doors were shut he was somehow capable of doing some pretty amazing jumping spin kicks and vigorous sparring etc.

I try to be open minded before I judge people but it was pretty hard in this case I'll admit!

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:51

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:49

I'm yet to meet somebody that thinks genuinely deserving disabled people shouldn't be looked after. It's all the pisstakers that people have an issue with, although I've no idea how you'd address the latter without impacting some of the former in the process.

But I often think of the asst Taekwondo teacher I had as a teen. He walked with a stick and used to apparently claim to have a bad back and reduced mobility. However, once the doors were shut he was somehow capable of doing some pretty amazing jumping spin kicks and vigorous sparring etc.

I try to be open minded before I judge people but it was pretty hard in this case I'll admit!

How do you define 'genuine deserving disabled people'?

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 21:51

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 20:52

They say that they should have made sure to cut spending first

Why didn’t they then?

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:57

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:51

How do you define 'genuine deserving disabled people'?

I knew somebody would ask that. 🤣

LadyWhistledownsSocietyPapers · 21/09/2026 21:58

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 11:36

I claim benefits as I am physically disabled.

the articles are about numbers of disabled people in constituencies. It’s implied (but not stated) that the reason Labour mps will not cut pip is because all the people on pip will vote them out.

i think this is
a not true
b people on pip vote in a number of ways not all of them Labour
c Labour mps have generally come into office to help the poor and disabled and cutting pip isn’t part of what they want to do.

all that aside, what have the government actually done that you object to?

I know of people on benefits and/or have family members on disability payments who vote reform.

I'm in Scotland so don't have a say in UK government, and I don't vote Scottish Labour either (despite having an adult child with disabilities), but I'm happy enough with them being in power. Could be far worse!

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:59

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:57

I knew somebody would ask that. 🤣

And do you think somebody will answer the question?

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 22:00

hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 21:59

And do you think somebody will answer the question?

I do hope so. I’m intrigued.

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 22:00

I wasn't really suggesting we scrutinise people to see how 'deserving' they are, even if necessarily this is part of the official process. I meant people who have a need as opposed to those that are just blagging piss takers.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 22:02

It emerged in June 2026 that almost one in ten Brits receive personal independence payments (PIP) in England and Wales, with 108 local authority areas out of 318 coming in above one in ten.

If anyone believes that 1 in 10 English / Welsh people are actually disabled - they're kidding themselves.

No one is saying that those who need it shouldn't get it. No one says that (I hope).

But those that are taking the piss need to be stopped. 6.2 million people are not disabled. For eg. Mild autism is not a disability, mild ADHD is not a disability. Not wanting to leave the house is not a disability. etc.

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hedgeknight · 21/09/2026 22:04

As nobody is willing to define 'those who need it', plenty are saying it indirectly.

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 22:04

Oh. You’re a psychiatrist now.

Clavinova · 21/09/2026 22:06

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:40

No. It's Clacton. Here is an excerpt from The Times. Perhaps take it up with them if you think they have it wrong. They can publish a correction.

Here is an excerpt from The Times

No, it isn't.

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 22:09

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 21:51

Why didn’t they then?

Liz Truss and Kwasi were bonkers tbh. Sunak was the sensible pair of hands

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