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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:51

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:49

It's at the same level as assaulting a heckler at a Reform conference instead of having security escort them out. I recall you were a major apologist for that behaviour. Ready to admit both are equally wrong?

I wasn't apologising, I was pointing out she shouldn't have been there. Why are canvassers being told not to canvass in an area and then complain when they are called the new fascists? Who put them in charge?

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 15:51

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 15:46

Obviously they are or we’d have no public services.

Well, no.

<50% of people are net contributors to the UK budget, which isn't necessarily a problem as in a fair and just society the richest individuals and corporations should be supporting the poorest.

But they don't, so we pay for public services (etc) by borrowing money to make up the difference - in 2024/2025 it was around £150 billion.

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:51

Grumpyoldcat · 21/09/2026 15:44

You are just sharing articles you disagree with. Expecting people to read them and agree with you. No real points made. Go away.

@Grumpyoldcat, I wouldn't waste your time.

@CoventryCity doesn't actually want to discuss the state of the country and pros/cons of policies and governments, just post random made-up statistics then be sarcastic to those who bothered to respond. It's better for ones sanity not to get involved

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:52

nomas · 21/09/2026 15:49

Kemi & co are on the Tory site taking credit for it.

Good to see you are posting what they say. But it’s still Labour in power making those decisions.

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:52

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:47

Starmer and Reeves tried but their own party blocked it. Take it up with the MPs who did that.

Yep. The MP’s were acting on behalf of their constituents and it wasn’t the fact that they wanted to cut the benefits it was the way in which they were proposing doing so. The latest consultation has found PIP to be unfit for purpose and in need of full reform. I think that’s preferable to tinkering around the edges every few years - trying to make it harder for potential chancers also makes it harder for genuinely disabled people to qualify so we just end up going round in circles.

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 15:52

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:50

Poor Mrs Bennet can't define 'far right'. she's backed herself into a silly old corner and is thrashing about. It happens when people throw around random accusations without substance.

Far right is a bit further along the spectrum than far wrong

SevenYellowHammers · 21/09/2026 15:52

CousinBette · 21/09/2026 11:42

Indeed, hello Thatcher’s council property Right to Buy which changed this country for ever.

The thing about right to buy, well the thing about any form of selling really, is that if you sell things, you need to make some more. Not just sell them and deny all the test of the target market from being able to buy or rent.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:53

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 15:50

Careful, your misogyny is showing.

Is it? Oh well I suppose it can tend to rub off, eventually.

Fluffypuppy1 · 21/09/2026 15:53

2dogsandabudgie · 21/09/2026 15:26

The decline of the UK started under Blair's Government when Poland and Romania joined the EU and we were inundated with migrants willing to work for really low wages. Anyone who objected was shouted down accused of being a racist/bigot which eventually led to Brexit.

This country is in a mess.

This.

Plus Labour bringing in Tax Credits, so full time workers could go part time, but get topped up to a full time wage by the government. The beginning of the slide into low productivity.

placemats · 21/09/2026 15:53

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:55

The Times is also reporting PIP is set to double by 2030, which sounds quite steep. It’ll be £45bn a year.

This claim about PIP doubling (?) within the next 3 years won't be linked to of course by @EasternStandard because the standard response is to google it. No share token given to support the claim. Poor evidence. See me after detention.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:54

SkimResource · 21/09/2026 15:47

She and her cronies are obsessed and unhappy, bless them! And have a lot of time on their hands.

I think the unhappiness is coming from people worried about any changes that will happen. I don’t think that’s surprising but £46bn a year is a lot.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 15:54

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:51

I wasn't apologising, I was pointing out she shouldn't have been there. Why are canvassers being told not to canvass in an area and then complain when they are called the new fascists? Who put them in charge?

Ah yes. The "she was wearing a short skirt m'lud" defence.

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:55

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:42

That's a lovely simple way to view things. My country doesn't allow dual nationality. It's an EU country. Forgive me for not wanting to exchange my far more powerful passport for a British one. Ich bin nur ein Gastarbeiter.

Well that's the choice you've made then. If you love being part of the EU so much, you can go move there. But you've chosen to move here and live here (for a reason I guess).

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:55

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:51

@Grumpyoldcat, I wouldn't waste your time.

@CoventryCity doesn't actually want to discuss the state of the country and pros/cons of policies and governments, just post random made-up statistics then be sarcastic to those who bothered to respond. It's better for ones sanity not to get involved

Except the whistle has already been blown. They aren't listening to you.

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:55

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:51

I wasn't apologising, I was pointing out she shouldn't have been there. Why are canvassers being told not to canvass in an area and then complain when they are called the new fascists? Who put them in charge?

Nope, that's being an apologist. She had as much right to be there as anyone else. Heckling is part of conferences. You have security deal with it. This happened at a Reform conference and you made excuses. Both are assault.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:55

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:51

@Grumpyoldcat, I wouldn't waste your time.

@CoventryCity doesn't actually want to discuss the state of the country and pros/cons of policies and governments, just post random made-up statistics then be sarcastic to those who bothered to respond. It's better for ones sanity not to get involved

There were no 'random' nor 'made up' statistics. All were referenced on this very thread.

Much as you'd like to think they were 'random' or 'made up' as it suits your little mental model of the world. It's possibly you projecting, who knows. Listen that's fine. I understand. Cognitive dissonance is a thing. We see it all the time. You're not the only one.

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Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 15:55

thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 15:36

How is this different from people who earn over £100k but who stash loads into their pensions so that they are still eligible for free childcare? Is it OK when the high earners do it but not when someone on less than £40k does it?

Not once have I said its ok for anyone to do it.

shecanbe · 21/09/2026 15:56

I heard GB 'News' is in financial dire straights and may soon be no more? Can anyone confirm?

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:56

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:55

Except the whistle has already been blown. They aren't listening to you.

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BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 15:57

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:52

Good to see you are posting what they say. But it’s still Labour in power making those decisions.

What about all the Tory decisions we’re still suffering? I suppose they’re the current government’s fault too?

2dogsandabudgie · 21/09/2026 15:57

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 15:47

No, that's not what I'm saying.

HTH

You accused the OP of being far right, what has she said for you to form that opinion?

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:57

The usual from below, anyone can go to the Times if they have a subscription.

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?
nomas · 21/09/2026 15:57

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:52

Good to see you are posting what they say. But it’s still Labour in power making those decisions.

Yes, trying to cut a benefit to reduce the welfare bill, to Tory disgust.

mumumental · 21/09/2026 15:57

Yawn yawn yawn. No doubt the extreme right trying to stir up discontent.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:58

shecanbe · 21/09/2026 15:56

I heard GB 'News' is in financial dire straights and may soon be no more? Can anyone confirm?

I think it's always been run at a loss, funded by billionaires. Not sure it may soon be no more though.

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