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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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changenameagain555 · 21/09/2026 15:58

Oh yes of course it's all the fault of the Labour government. You do realise that most of the people claiming these benefits did so before Labour came to power. Immigration also existed (at higher numbers) before Labour came to power. I mean of course it is up to individuals to decide what kind of policies they agree/disagree with but why do all these posts have to blame the current government of the day? These issues transcend which party is in power. Its fairly obvious from reading these posts that the right wing press are doing a good job of trying to lay everything at the door of labour to get a right wing party back into power.

placemats · 21/09/2026 15:58

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:50

Poor Mrs Bennet can't define 'far right'. she's backed herself into a silly old corner and is thrashing about. It happens when people throw around random accusations without substance.

If you hate this country so much why don't you leave? Can you not be supportive of your fellow citizens?

The UK and NI is a fantastic country. Why are you talking down all the wonderful people who work hard daily to live good lives and support each other?

Coffeeandallthebooks · 21/09/2026 15:58

labamba007 · 21/09/2026 15:39

This would end good small businesses. I would not do everything I’ve done and make the sacrifices I have made if my business liabilities became personal - it’s too much risk.

And it wouldn’t generate anything because people would either not set up a business or simply say they don’t have enough money to pay.

When will people understand that you can’t keep going after small business owners, there won’t be any left to tax!

Then how do we pay for small businesses, and any businesses, to be tax free?

It a benefit to be able to set up a business and fold it after a year without paying a penny in tax. If that benefit costs the government 17 billion a year, how can we afford to pay for it?

I agree small businesses are beneficial, but losing so much tax is unsustainable. I would introduce a 'three strikes' policy so you have 2 genuine chances to fold unsuccessful businesses, but people cannot do it every year to avoid paying any tax at all ever. That still encourages small businesses to take chances and discourages career tax evaders.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:59

mumumental · 21/09/2026 15:57

Yawn yawn yawn. No doubt the extreme right trying to stir up discontent.

Can You define what you think is 'extreme right'?

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loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:59

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:42

Or punching Restore candidates in the face. Where's that on your spectrum of hate?

I assume you’re aware that parties on both sides have suffered attacks and that the incident with Lewis Holmes was hardly isolated. I don’t condone any sort of violence, which is more than can be said of Robert Jennerick and Lee Anderson who demonstrated zero empathy towards a female protestor who was dragged around a room by her hair, and even suggested a whip round for the reform audience member who hit her with his walking stick.

The thing is though, politicians (especially those who make a career out of promoting inflammatory views) are well aware of the risks of the job and make the choice to continue down those paths regardless. It doesn’t mean they deserve to be attacked but they have chosen whether to expose themselves to those risks. People who suddenly find themselves disabled or their country being blown to bits have no choice in the matter. I think it’s abhorrent that anyone would attack someone at their most vulnerable and try to make their living conditions even worse.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 16:00

nomas · 21/09/2026 15:57

Yes, trying to cut a benefit to reduce the welfare bill, to Tory disgust.

Did you really miss the Labour MPs moving against Starmer and Reeves on PIP cuts? How?

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 16:00

placemats · 21/09/2026 15:58

If you hate this country so much why don't you leave? Can you not be supportive of your fellow citizens?

The UK and NI is a fantastic country. Why are you talking down all the wonderful people who work hard daily to live good lives and support each other?

What? Where did you get Any of your statements from? Certainly there is no logical basis on which to say what you have said, from anything I have posted. So?

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PrettyLittleRose · 21/09/2026 16:00

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

To be honest, we get this thread a few times a year, no matter what political party is in power.

So YABU.

placemats · 21/09/2026 16:01

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:57

The usual from below, anyone can go to the Times if they have a subscription.

Anyone with a subscription can share with a token.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 16:01

placemats · 21/09/2026 16:01

Anyone with a subscription can share with a token.

Do it then. I don’t subscribe.

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 16:01

placemats · 21/09/2026 15:53

This claim about PIP doubling (?) within the next 3 years won't be linked to of course by @EasternStandard because the standard response is to google it. No share token given to support the claim. Poor evidence. See me after detention.

PIP claims have been steadily rising ever since its introduction. But what nobody actually tells the public is that this is because there is continuing migration to PIP of those claimants previously on the old Disability Living Allowance. This has been the case throughout the lifetime of PIP. Those cases are represented statistically as new claims for PIP but successive governments have omitted to mention that they don’t incur any extra cost because they were already claiming.

Mischance · 21/09/2026 16:01

Ah - this is a recent thread - I had assumed it would be an old one from when the Tories were busy wrecking social cohesion, public services and European cooperation.

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 16:02

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:55

There were no 'random' nor 'made up' statistics. All were referenced on this very thread.

Much as you'd like to think they were 'random' or 'made up' as it suits your little mental model of the world. It's possibly you projecting, who knows. Listen that's fine. I understand. Cognitive dissonance is a thing. We see it all the time. You're not the only one.

The only reference you have provided is for a source - the migration observatory - who state that under labour the exact opposite of what you claim has happened.

Unless you can point, specifically, at the figures you think exist then it's very plain you are talking out of your arse.

SkimResource · 21/09/2026 16:02

PaulGalicoagain · 21/09/2026 13:31

Its @CoventryCity again..and again..and again.

Imagine living with so much hatred. Starting post after post on the same topic. They and their ilk are to be pitied. I worry about their health.

PrettyLittleRose · 21/09/2026 16:02

placemats · 21/09/2026 15:58

If you hate this country so much why don't you leave? Can you not be supportive of your fellow citizens?

The UK and NI is a fantastic country. Why are you talking down all the wonderful people who work hard daily to live good lives and support each other?

Exactly. Everyone who whinges about the UK being such a HORRIBLE country, and such a terrible place to live, never does anything to change it. And they never ever leave.

Funny that. Wink

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 16:02

SkimResource · 21/09/2026 16:02

Imagine living with so much hatred. Starting post after post on the same topic. They and their ilk are to be pitied. I worry about their health.

If you hate Cov's threads so much why are you here?

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 16:02

SkimResource · 21/09/2026 16:02

Imagine living with so much hatred. Starting post after post on the same topic. They and their ilk are to be pitied. I worry about their health.

You’re worrying about the wrong thing. The debt is far too high.

Auspiciousminds · 21/09/2026 16:02

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 12:35

Is this going to end up like a previous thread which was OP posting endless links and cut and pastes to articles about crimes committed by Muslim asylum seekers?

Give it time.

nomas · 21/09/2026 16:03

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:57

The usual from below, anyone can go to the Times if they have a subscription.

DLA bill in 2010: £11.5b

PIP bill in 2024: £26b

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 16:03

SkimResource · 21/09/2026 16:02

Imagine living with so much hatred. Starting post after post on the same topic. They and their ilk are to be pitied. I worry about their health.

Ah thanks so much for your care and concern. I love you 😘

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Auspiciousminds · 21/09/2026 16:04

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

The Daily Mail is your source? Seriously???

JustSawJohnny · 21/09/2026 16:04

How did you feel about the utter shitshow that was Boris & co?

Or is this just another claimant hating/blame-everything-on-the-immigrants post?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 16:04

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 16:03

Ah thanks so much for your care and concern. I love you 😘

I take my hat off to you. Your threads certainly liven the place up.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 16:05

Haha @CoventryCity that must have been some whistle 🤣 😆 😄 you're being bombarded now.

Applesonthelawn · 21/09/2026 16:05

It's got potential to be a great country, but the incentives to be a wealth generator and/or the disincentives to be a wealth depletor have to be increased or we'll end up going to the IMF with a begging bowl.

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