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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:37

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:35

I am a non citizen and a taxpayer. So much for the British value of fairness. Having a contribution based benefits system would help. You pay in, you get out, as long as you are legally resident.

I mean yeah..non citizens and immigrants to the nation are expected to contribute overall. Once you naturalise as a UK citizen only then should things change.

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:38

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:35

I am a non citizen and a taxpayer. So much for the British value of fairness. Having a contribution based benefits system would help. You pay in, you get out, as long as you are legally resident.

That’s what happens now. There are contribution based benefits which are not usually means tested, and means tested ones like UC designed to provide support even if you haven’t contributed. A system wholly based on contributions wouldn’t work because not everyone is able to do so, and there would be no safety net.

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 15:38

I'm also assuming you think

Climate Change is fake/tax scam
The earth is flat
Convid was Bill Gate's plan to implement 'Agenda 21' via microchips
David Icke is a prophet
The Illumunati are controlling the weather on bank holidays
Something something Harry and Meghan
5G Towers

forthereissome · 21/09/2026 15:38

sharksnip · 21/09/2026 11:33

Ooohh we are early with the benefit bashing and racist posts today. Morning everyone lol

😂

@CoventryCity try a chill pill, you need it.

nomas · 21/09/2026 15:38

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:23

The public backlash on WFA was more damaging to Labour.

The VAT is a ridiculous policy that typified Starmer’s gov. Tg he’s out.

So first it's Labour won't cut benefits, then it's Labour aren't cutting the right type of benefits.

They can't win it seems.

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 15:38

cricketnut77 · 21/09/2026 15:28

Only net tax contributors should be allowed to vote.

Hardly anyone is a net contributor.

forthereissome · 21/09/2026 15:39

nomas · 21/09/2026 15:38

So first it's Labour won't cut benefits, then it's Labour aren't cutting the right type of benefits.

They can't win it seems.

I think OP just loves to be dramatic. I know the type.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 15:39

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:22

You seem to be misinformed. The reason labour won’t cut benefits at the moment is that there have been two major consultations on disability benefits proposing major change. One of them has suggested that PIP isn’t fit for purpose and requires a complete overhaul. The other is consulting with the wider public and disability organisations as to what those changes should look like if meaningful support to disabled people is to be sustainable.

So the tools to do anything but make crude and damaging cuts doesn’t currently exist. For myself I would much rather have well thought out sustainable reform that provides proper support to those eligible, than back of the fag packet changes designed for nothing other than saving money. As usual no consideration given to the fact that just because you cut the benefit doesn’t mean the need disappears. It doesn’t save money, the cost just gets shifted to another - and in this case more expensive - part of the budget.

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Good post. Thank you.

labamba007 · 21/09/2026 15:39

Coffeeandallthebooks · 21/09/2026 11:42

The economist Richard J Murphy has estimated there is a tax gap.

Companies which shut down in the first year of trading have their tax liabilities end with them. They don't pay VAT, corporation tax, or anything else, and often the sole trader who wound them up starts a new company totally free of any tax liability.

We need to get the money we are due much more than we need to curb spending. Changing the law to make tax a personal and not company liability should be a priority.

The sum the government is missing out on is in the region of 17 billion pounds a year.

This would end good small businesses. I would not do everything I’ve done and make the sacrifices I have made if my business liabilities became personal - it’s too much risk.

And it wouldn’t generate anything because people would either not set up a business or simply say they don’t have enough money to pay.

When will people understand that you can’t keep going after small business owners, there won’t be any left to tax!

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:40

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:32

I've made my own observations, I just don't need to personally attack the person presenting the information.

Edited for the MISTYPE.

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Considering right wing thinkers/voters spend the majority of their time attacking the most vulnerable in society, I don’t think there’s any room for criticism here. Imagine having a disability through no fault of your own or finding yourself having to flee your country and having thousands of people like the OP pointing the finger at you - making out that you’re the problem with the country and encouraging measures to remove your income and make your life even more difficult.

If there’s a choice between ‘attacking’ people for spreading hateful misinformation designed to divide, and attacking the most vulnerable in society for daring to exist, I know which I think is worse.

shecanbe · 21/09/2026 15:40

ImmortalNowBabyDoll · 21/09/2026 15:28

Remind me, what proportion of Clacton constituents are on benefits?

Exactly!

Farage can't even bear to visit his own constituency. He despises them.

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 15:41

cricketnut77 · 21/09/2026 15:28

Only net tax contributors should be allowed to vote.

Yeah, can't see any issues with that, at all.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:41

forthereissome · 21/09/2026 15:38

😂

@CoventryCity try a chill pill, you need it.

Why is that babe?

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ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:41

thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 15:36

How is this different from people who earn over £100k but who stash loads into their pensions so that they are still eligible for free childcare? Is it OK when the high earners do it but not when someone on less than £40k does it?

Yet another example of divide and rule. Getting us sniping at the folk who appear to be doing just a little better than us means we leave the super rich alone to enjoy, unfettered, their pretty lives.

Parky04 · 21/09/2026 15:41

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:02

And here is today’s Burnham bashing thread. Its getting rather tedious.

To be fair, Boris had the same!

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:42

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 15:38

Hardly anyone is a net contributor.

Tis true

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:42

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:40

Considering right wing thinkers/voters spend the majority of their time attacking the most vulnerable in society, I don’t think there’s any room for criticism here. Imagine having a disability through no fault of your own or finding yourself having to flee your country and having thousands of people like the OP pointing the finger at you - making out that you’re the problem with the country and encouraging measures to remove your income and make your life even more difficult.

If there’s a choice between ‘attacking’ people for spreading hateful misinformation designed to divide, and attacking the most vulnerable in society for daring to exist, I know which I think is worse.

Or punching Restore candidates in the face. Where's that on your spectrum of hate?

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:42

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:37

I mean yeah..non citizens and immigrants to the nation are expected to contribute overall. Once you naturalise as a UK citizen only then should things change.

That's a lovely simple way to view things. My country doesn't allow dual nationality. It's an EU country. Forgive me for not wanting to exchange my far more powerful passport for a British one. Ich bin nur ein Gastarbeiter.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:43

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 15:38

I'm also assuming you think

Climate Change is fake/tax scam
The earth is flat
Convid was Bill Gate's plan to implement 'Agenda 21' via microchips
David Icke is a prophet
The Illumunati are controlling the weather on bank holidays
Something something Harry and Meghan
5G Towers

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To whom are you talking @AnswerIsNo ? Are you ok?

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Anyahyacinth · 21/09/2026 15:43

Well this is an intelligence test isn’t it?

A majority may be a few hundred or a few thousand.

The disability rate in the UK is 25%

Years of austerity and slashed social and health services. Low paying jobs, poor housing…I wonder if there could be a cause and effect?

You want a healthy society? It costs. In long term care and planning. You want tent cities, crime and division? As you were 😔

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:43

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:42

Or punching Restore candidates in the face. Where's that on your spectrum of hate?

What Reform declared they would do with disability benefits deserved a punch in the face to be fair.

Grumpyoldcat · 21/09/2026 15:44

You are just sharing articles you disagree with. Expecting people to read them and agree with you. No real points made. Go away.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:44

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:27

Starmer stepping down as an MP the day Burnham became PM.

Vindictive little shit.

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Yes. There was never any doubt, was there..

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Telecone · 21/09/2026 15:44

RowsOfFlowers · 21/09/2026 14:07

its too much!

PIP will rise because they've increased the retirement age. People in their early 60's who are too knackered to continue working can't live off fresh air before their pensions kick in.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:45

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:43

What Reform declared they would do with disability benefits deserved a punch in the face to be fair.

Great, at least one of you has admitted you're hypocrites. It's taken a long time to get though. Well done 👏

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