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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:27

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 15:23

The public backlash on WFA was more damaging to Labour.

The VAT is a ridiculous policy that typified Starmer’s gov. Tg he’s out.

Starmer stepping down as an MP the day Burnham became PM.

Vindictive little shit.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:28

Strange how socialists are meant to be more intelligent, yet find themselves being useful idiots for the Green Party and the Lib Dems.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:28

EatingSky · 21/09/2026 15:25

Not sure how you can blame the current state of affairs on a gov that’s been in place a few weeks, given the multiple years of mismanagement and fuckups that have got us here. Society is crumbling. It’s not Andy Burnham’s fault.

What about two-year Starmer’s tenure?

cricketnut77 · 21/09/2026 15:28

Only net tax contributors should be allowed to vote.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:28

SerendipityJane · 21/09/2026 15:27

Strange how this government managed to do more damage in 2 years than the Tories in the preceding 14.

Or maybe the OP is none too bright ?

I'll give it some thought.

You go Jane 😘

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ImmortalNowBabyDoll · 21/09/2026 15:28

Remind me, what proportion of Clacton constituents are on benefits?

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:28

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:11

Wow - is this AI. A block of ranting text. Do better loobyou815.

Shame you didn’t read it OP. You might have learned something.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:29

cricketnut77 · 21/09/2026 15:28

Only net tax contributors should be allowed to vote.

Ha ha - that would be an small number compared to the current electorate number,

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 15:30

If you're unhappy as you say you are, OP, then perhaps you should leave and find somewhere better?

The far right will always be in a minority here but there will be other places where you might fit in.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:30

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:28

You go Jane 😘

😆 🤣 personal attacks. We just love them. Have you been accused of being me yet and vice versa!

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 15:30

Lifeomars · 21/09/2026 15:26

I hear you OP, we all lived in a land of milk and honey until July 2024, clean streets, unpolluted water ways, full employment, hardly anyone on benefits, an NHS that functioned like a well oiled machine, everyone could access a dentist, housing was plentiful and rents were affordable, food was good quality and did not take up a significant part of the family budget. We had a stable government with strong and lasting leadership, Brexit brought in all the predicted benefits and while Covid was of course a challenge, it was handled with expertise and calm and of course there was no corruption re the procurment of PPE and Test and Trace smoothly. Then those bastard communist cheated their way to power and look where we are!!! Thank you for being a Truth Teller 😀😀😀

you forgot the forests of money trees that started flourishing on the Sunlit Uplands,

you can take a day trip via the Number 350 bus and stop off at Barnard's Castle for an eye test, or pose for a selfie at the Build Better Backs statue

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:30

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:25

You've made a generalisation yourself.

No I’ve made an observation after watching right wing voters for many many years. It’s evidence based, unlike most right wing claims.

Tooobvious · 21/09/2026 15:31

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:32

More than half of Labour MPs represent seats where there is a greater number of disability benefit claimants than the size of their majority, an analysis has revealed.

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election.

This is 58 per cent of the party's total 366 seats across the two countries, the analysis by The Times found.

So what? That just shows that people in areas with higher numbers of disabled people are more likely to vote Labour. Hardly surprising.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:31

Far right and hard left. Good job neither sets post on MN but I see them on Reddit. Funny that.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:31

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 15:30

If you're unhappy as you say you are, OP, then perhaps you should leave and find somewhere better?

The far right will always be in a minority here but there will be other places where you might fit in.

Aw @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack please do define what you think is 'far right', thanks.

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ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:31

nomas · 21/09/2026 15:21

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits.

Labour restricted the Winter Fuel payment but Tories were not having it.

And Labour also ended the private school VAT exemption and Tories were not having it.

Would love to see what threads you started about Tories when they were in power. I'm guessing none.

Spot on. Fourteen years of Tory shit show. Scandal after scandal, revolving door prime ministers, and suddenly it’s all Labour’s fault. Hilarious.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:32

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:30

No I’ve made an observation after watching right wing voters for many many years. It’s evidence based, unlike most right wing claims.

I've made my own observations, I just don't need to personally attack the person presenting the information.

Edited for the MISTYPE.

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:33

I go back and forth on what I believe regarding benefits. Because if someone has cancer, they need taxpayer money to survive.

But one thing I do believe is that non citizens aren't entitled to tax payer money and definitely we need to stop the boats.

ThreadGuardDog · 21/09/2026 15:34

Tooobvious · 21/09/2026 15:31

So what? That just shows that people in areas with higher numbers of disabled people are more likely to vote Labour. Hardly surprising.

Agree. The first thing any recent Tory government has done is to home in on disability benefits and try to reduce them with no care whatsoever for the people who rely on them. They’ve fudged figures and blurred lines between out of work and disability benefits to gain support from the public. And then people wonder why disabled people don’t vote Tory. Although the dogs’ dinner Starmer’s government made of the proposed ill though through cuts wasn’t exactly a vote winner.

pointythings · 21/09/2026 15:35

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:33

I go back and forth on what I believe regarding benefits. Because if someone has cancer, they need taxpayer money to survive.

But one thing I do believe is that non citizens aren't entitled to tax payer money and definitely we need to stop the boats.

I am a non citizen and a taxpayer. So much for the British value of fairness. Having a contribution based benefits system would help. You pay in, you get out, as long as you are legally resident.

LizzieW1969 · 21/09/2026 15:35

Aydel · 21/09/2026 11:47

Because the Tories did such a good job, changing Prime Minister every five minutes, fucking up Brexit, the pandemic, and tanking the economy under Liz Truss…

^This with bells on!

thepariscrimefiles · 21/09/2026 15:36

Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 12:28

Agree. Loop holes need sorting out. I have a team leader on just less than 40k, he openly tells us he puts so much in his pension he takes home the same as a general op. His partner doesnt work, they have 4 kids, all now at school. He should be living off his wages not tucking it away and taking top ups. Someone else has dropped a days work because they now have a child so they get top ups and doesnt make much difference to them.

How is this different from people who earn over £100k but who stash loads into their pensions so that they are still eligible for free childcare? Is it OK when the high earners do it but not when someone on less than £40k does it?

TheFishFish · 21/09/2026 15:36

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:08

I would love to see the hard data.

Somehow doubt you have it, though.

"The proportion of people living in households receiving more in benefits (cash benefits and benefits in kind), than they paid in taxes (direct and indirect) is 53.3%; this has remained relatively stable over the last three years."

From the ONS.

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Effects of taxes and benefits on UK household income - Office for National Statistics

The redistribution effects on individuals and households of direct and indirect taxation and benefits received in cash or kind, analysed by household type.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/theeffectsoftaxesandbenefitsonhouseholdincome/2024

Differentforgirls · 21/09/2026 15:36

Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 15:09

And? This is over 10k more than a general op, that he could be living off instead of expecting top ups.
Obviously this is peanuts to you, but for some (me included) this is a decent wage. I dont live down south where things are super expensive.

I just don't understand how someone on that wage can put loads into their pension!

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 15:36

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:31

Aw @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack please do define what you think is 'far right', thanks.

Google is your friend if you are keen to educate yourself. I do understand that it can be hard for people to recognise extreme views when they have already been radicalised.

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