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Sibling graduation is an exceptional curcumstance

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Oldgalgames · Yesterday 19:52

I recently applied to my DD13's school for 1 days absence to attend her sisters graduation (DD22) in November which has been declined as its not deemed an 'exceptional circumstance'. My DD13 had 98% attendance last year, was off for the flu last November which has been her only absence, is in top sets for all STEM subects. I know we wont get a fine, and we will be attending as a family anyway, its more the principle as I do truely believe this is of course an exceptional circumstance. A sibling's university graduation happens once or twice in a lifetime, it’s an important family milestone and incredibly inspiring for a 13 year-old to witness. I should add this is the first ever request I have submitted to school for an absence!

I am being unreasonable, school are right to decline this request as its not an exceptional circumstance

I am not being unreasonable it is an exceptional circumstance

OP posts:
TurmericTansy · Yesterday 21:50

In most cases you only get a standard issue of two graduation tickets - so I don't think it's expected for siblings to go along as well as 2 parents. Nice if they can, but not a "life event"

Oldgalgames · Yesterday 21:51

FKAT · Yesterday 21:32

Um. The one that says a sibling's graduation ceremony is not an authorised absence.

Where does it say that in the book of school policies? As you can see many other posters have had this same request authorised by schools.

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mindutopia · Yesterday 21:51

I don’t think it’s an exceptional circumstance, but I would have just called her out sick and not made such a fuss.

ToadRage · Yesterday 21:52

Its not an exceptional circumstance for her like a family wedding or funeral. My brother didn't attend my graduation, i only went to his cos I had nothing better to do that day. At my graduation few brought siblings with them. Its not a good enough excuse for missing school.

ReadingSoManyThreads · Yesterday 21:53

RecliningMama · Yesterday 21:05

I couldn’t imagine myself living in Ireland and having the audacity to say ‘This shitty Irish school nonsense’

All my family are Irish btw, although I was brought up in England. I’d find it rather rude if they lived here and said that.

lol ok. Tell me, what exactly do you find shitty about the Irish schooling system?

It's rather laughable that you think people that end up living in England (I'm here not by choice BTW), should accept shitty nonsense such as school fines. And I'll tell you what, if I took my children out of school for a week to go back home to a family funeral - I'd be fined. Are you seriously telling me that that is acceptable? Are you telling me that that isn't shitty English school nonsense? Because this nonsense isn't in other parts of the UK such as NI or Scotland.

You may have Irish family, but you're clearly indoctrinated into the English system if you think anyone living here is "audacious" to dare criticise anything about the country, a country that has many flaws at that.

And I'll tell you another thing, your Irish family would roll their eyes to the ceiling if you expressed your displeasure at their criticism of the English system. Have you never read up on Irish history? Have you never immersed yourself in the wonderful Irish culture, full of wit and humour that we have?

There's a reason why us Irish find the English (particularly the southern) uptight 😉

Anyway, not meaning to offend millions of people here, just replying to this specific poster. I have a lovely non-uptight English husband and friends 😁

Flamingojune · Yesterday 21:53

Just play the game. Phone in sick.

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 21:54

Divinedownload · Yesterday 20:11

A death, a parents marriage. It’s exceptional to you maybe, but it really isn’t exceptional - it’s a non issue anyway for your family. Just remove him or her for the day.

Death is one of the only "occasions" that isn't exceptional as it happens to everyone...

FKAT · Yesterday 21:55

Oldgalgames · Yesterday 21:51

Where does it say that in the book of school policies? As you can see many other posters have had this same request authorised by schools.

Oh my god. Are you honestly this obtuse?

oblada · Yesterday 21:56

The school pretty much has to decline but they probably agree with you and will wish your son a great day. They did that with my kids when we asked for a couple of days off for my grandmother's 90th birthday celebration (needed a day or so because my family is abroad). They fully supported our decision to take the kids away but they had to decline due to the LAs guidance. It doesn't matter either way. Just have a great day!

edwinbear · Yesterday 21:58

You’re surely not comparing a death in the family to a graduation ceremony OP? I fortunately didn’t actually experience a death in the family until I was in my 20’s, but a much loved family member dying, vs a prize giving ceremony? Surely you can see the difference?

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 21:58

Purpleelephantsandunicorns · Yesterday 19:55

I truly feel that we have to put a lot of the blame for this level of daftness on the government and ofsted. The pressure on schools over attendance is insane.

However you are completely right to take your son. It is a big celebration for your family.

Son?

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 21:58

cramptramp · Yesterday 20:01

No she shouldn’t lie and tell her son to lie to the school. The one day unauthorised doesn’t matter at all. The school won’t do anything.

Which son are people talking about?!

Arran2024 · Yesterday 21:58

You think it's exceptional. Someone else might think that an older sibling appearing on stage in the West End or playing elite sport is exceptional. I guess they get quite a lot of random requests like this. I wonder if they are blocking all these requests - seems a bit churlish and joy-zapping to me. Some schools can't see the wood for the trees!

MickyMoonshine · Yesterday 21:59

Oldgalgames · Yesterday 21:51

Where does it say that in the book of school policies? As you can see many other posters have had this same request authorised by schools.

The rules have been tightened recently. What might have been authorised a couple if years ago is unlikely to be authorised now.

And it’s government policy which is being implemented by schools. The school gets very little say.

OutOfTheOtherSide · Yesterday 21:59

Divinedownload · Yesterday 20:01

It’s not exceptional. I would still take my child though and just report as sick.

What if the school asks the child what was wrong with them? Do you expect your child to lie? Pretty awful parenting.

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 21:59

RecliningMama · Yesterday 20:05

Her son won’t even be asked about his day-off.

How do you know she has a son? She hasn't mentioned one!

ClairDeLaLune · Yesterday 22:00

RecliningMama · Yesterday 20:02

Graduation isn’t an exceptional circumstance. A death in the family is.

On average people graduate in their lifetimes approximately as many times as they die. Both are therefore as exceptional as each other.

BugJuice · Yesterday 22:00

It doesn’t really matter what sex the kid is 🤷🏻‍♀️

bittertwisted · Yesterday 22:00

InQuiresandplaceswheretheysing · Yesterday 20:32

Was about to say this. Didn’t occur to me to invite my sister to my graduation recently.

Yes I’m perplexed by the ‘academic family’ day out, tickets are so limited

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 22:00

oblada · Yesterday 21:56

The school pretty much has to decline but they probably agree with you and will wish your son a great day. They did that with my kids when we asked for a couple of days off for my grandmother's 90th birthday celebration (needed a day or so because my family is abroad). They fully supported our decision to take the kids away but they had to decline due to the LAs guidance. It doesn't matter either way. Just have a great day!

She hasn't mentioned having a son so why do people keep talking about her son?!

user293948849167 · Yesterday 22:02

I voted YABU because it’s not an exceptional circumstance- as in she doesn’t have to go and most siblings don’t go to graduations. An exceptional circumstance is a funeral or essential medical appointment.

BUT I don’t think you would be unreasonable to just take her anyway, she’s your child you can take her out of school for a day if you want to.

Franxi · Yesterday 22:04

My siblings have never attended any of my graduations and I haven’t attended theirs.

But, it’s important to you so why does it matter if it unauthorised or not? We always tend to do things by the book, but I’m taking my child out of school for a family event and I know it won’t meet the criteria. So what? Who gets to decide what events matter? The parents. It’s only a day, I’m sure these rules aren’t in place to stop people taking a day out of school for a rare special event. It’s for children who are consistently taken out of school.

I’d prefer those children are monitored and we have an unauthorised day out of school. One day will make no difference to my child’s education as they are fortunate to not be in the situation these blanket laws are made for.

Purpleelephantsandunicorns · Yesterday 22:06

ChristOnAPennyfarthing · Yesterday 21:58

Son?

Apologies if I misread your original post. I thought your younger child was a son. It matters not a jot to the idea however.

Wonderknicks · Yesterday 22:08

We only ever got 2 tickets for each of my 3 children's graduations so none attended each other's

globalswimmer · Yesterday 22:08

Watching from Ireland, I just can't believe this. We just tell the school what we are doing. We have amongst the highest rates of progression to third level in the EU so doesn't seem to be doing any harm.