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AIBU to leave holiday early after my mother criticised my parenting?

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graygoose · Yesterday 01:47

Background: I’m a single mum on holiday with my parents and 2 year old, a one hour flight away from where we live (not in the UK). My relationship with my mother has deteriorated steadily in recent years, especially since I became a mum. I see how toxic her behaviour to me and my brother really was (brother is now no contact with her) but she sits there and criticises my parenting. This morning at breakfast buffet DD dropped her croissant on the floor. I picked it up and told her I’ll get her a new one, go sit with grandparents. She’s 2 so she had a mini meltdown because she wanted to carry the croissant herself. My mother tells me I shamed DD, not realising the irony in saying that statement to her own daughter!

I could go on but it’s been a lifetime of her criticising me, not taking accountability and every time I stick up for myself she compares me to her abusive older sister. I’m so over this. I’m a worse person when she’s around.

I’ve booked a flight home for me and DD this morning leaving in a few hours. Currently sitting in our adjoining hotel room waiting until it’s late enough for me to leave for the airport with DD and not hang around there too long.

I am in my late 30s and feel sick inside at the thought of “defying” my mother. But I’m also sick of her and I’m a worse person when I’m around her.

I don’t know what I’m seeking here, I’m not a dramatic person, I have never “defied” my mother before but AIBU for deciding I’m an adult with free will, mother to my own child and I can make decisions that upset my mother? She’s done a real number on me.

OP posts:
graygoose · Today 08:30

SALaw · Today 08:21

Going on holiday with someone who is as you describe is ridiculous. Even if you want to forge a closer relationship, holiday is very much not the place to do it. You are too on top of each other, with each other all day every day, having to potentially compromise on activities etc. Days out, visits to each other’s home etc is more than enough to try to get closer. So I have relatively little sympathy that the holiday with the known nightmare mother turned out to be a nightmare.

Not really sure how much better I can explain that it’s hard for me to approach my relationship with my mother rationally, as it is for most people I’m sure.

OP posts:
cantthinkofagoodusername2026 · Today 08:31

Good for you OP. Your story is very similar to mine. I understand about holding onto hope that maybe she'll change and this time things will be different. I went NC with mine a few years ago and wish I'd have done it sooner. My mother is a nasty bully and I could see her starting to do the same with her grandchildren once they grew out of the little and cute phase. In my case, the final straw was quite small but piled upon millions built up over the years. She will no doubt be either telling people that I lost it over something really small, or she will be pretending that everything is completely normal so she doesn't feel embarrassed around other people.
You will no doubt go through a grieving phase, but you'll come out of it feeling so much better.

cestlavielife · Today 08:35

Is it a nice place? Hotel paid? Take a bus trip to sonewhere else fir the day leave mother to stew. Bit of a waste to flounce off back home

Sortingmyself · Today 08:40

I think we all think we should have limitless patience for our parents because ultimately we want their approval, but unfortunately, we don't have limitless patience, as sometimes it can take the smallest, innocuous thing to tip you over the edge. I mean you're already in therapy for what? Nearly 2 years now? You going to therapy, discussing the relationship you have with your 'd'M is indicative of you feeling as though you are somehow to blame for how the relationship has gone throughout your 38 years and you're constantly wanting to fix it but it's not your fault. Your 'd'M has always been the adult in the relationship and hasn't treated you (or your DB well). Maybe it is time to drop the rope.

Here's a link to the latest 'stately homes' thread - i think you'll be surprised just how many women out there feel like you (and I) do! Solidarity at least.

August 2026 - Well we took you to Stately Homes | Mumsnet

August 2026 - Well we took you to Stately Homes | Mumsnet

I have started a new thread as the other one is now full.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5571390-august-2026-well-we-took-you-to-stately-homes

SALaw · Today 08:42

graygoose · Today 08:30

Not really sure how much better I can explain that it’s hard for me to approach my relationship with my mother rationally, as it is for most people I’m sure.

A holiday isn’t an impulse thing. There is plenty of time to think about whether it is the right thing to do. At no point in the lead up did you think “wait a minute, my mum is a total nightmare, criticises me constantly and has caused me huge anxiety and distress, MAYBE I shouldn’t go away with her”?!

QuietComet · Today 08:56

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 10:45

This cannot be real. Such an OTT reaction and I agree with your mum, it's better to let kids do stuff for themselves.

I'm taking a wild stab in the dark that this is about more than the breakfast...

SpryCat · Today 08:57

You have to break the cycle of abuse for your DD, she’s only two so won’t have any memories of your mum if you walk away now. Your mum likes to spew her unhappiness and rage at everyone close to her and you have chosen to walk away and protect yourself and DD from harm. Don’t be surprised if your dad starts trying to make you feel guilty because he will be the brunt of her rage now and wants to selfishly share the load. He chose a long time ago to keep quiet and not protect you and your brother so he might decide not to rock the boat and keep away. That’s his choice, he is not a puppet and that is something you need to acknowledge.
You will mourn the parents you deserved but your day today life, celebrations won’t have you feeling on edge nor be deliberately ruined by someone so full of hatred.

QuietComet · Today 08:59

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:58

To the table to eat it. Or stuff it into her mouth on the way there. Doesn't really matter but both are better than teaching her daughter that she can't be trusted to handle a croissant. Looks like the wheel is turning full circle.

Weird that you're focusing on the croissant and ignoring the massive red flag which is the history of toxic behaviour and sibling nc with the mother ..

And what exactly do you mean by "the wheel turning full circle"? Are you suggesting the op was wrong to stand up to her mother for the first time and protect her daughter from toxic behaviour?

(As has been explained in the original post).

Really. It's. Not. About. The. Croissant.

QuietComet · Today 09:02

Redburnett · Yesterday 12:50

Loving 'croissant - gate'........
Leaving is a bit OTT after one small criticism. Why go on holiday with her in the first place since you knew what she is like? If she disapproves of you being a lone parent she is never likely to change.

I'm guessing you haven't grown up with a toxic family member.

It's a pretty complicated dynamic. I've just taken the decision to cut ties after 40 years, plenty of holidays together, etc.

Asking "why go on holiday with your toxic mother" is akin to asking a spouse why they stay with their gaslighting partner.

Happyflower12345 · Today 09:05

You're an adult prioritising yourself and your child. It sounds like you're still putting a lot of weight on what your mother think and giving her your power, "defying" sounds like an odd choice of words, you're disagreeing with her not defying her. Let her think what she thinks.

PinkyFlamingo · Today 09:08

I can't believe all the posters accusing the OP of over reacting, it was glaringly obvious from first post that it was not just about croissant incident! She even said she could go on!!

GroveInn · Today 09:10

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:58

To the table to eat it. Or stuff it into her mouth on the way there. Doesn't really matter but both are better than teaching her daughter that she can't be trusted to handle a croissant. Looks like the wheel is turning full circle.

Do you really not see that this isn’t just about a croissant?!

GroveInn · Today 09:13

graygoose · Today 08:30

Not really sure how much better I can explain that it’s hard for me to approach my relationship with my mother rationally, as it is for most people I’m sure.

OP it sounds like you have lots of emotional intelligence. Def more than some posting here. I wish you all the strength in the world to maintain your boundaries and to put yourself and your daughter first x

SALaw · Today 09:15

QuietComet · Today 09:02

I'm guessing you haven't grown up with a toxic family member.

It's a pretty complicated dynamic. I've just taken the decision to cut ties after 40 years, plenty of holidays together, etc.

Asking "why go on holiday with your toxic mother" is akin to asking a spouse why they stay with their gaslighting partner.

It’s really not. Leaving a relationship is fraught with all sorts of complications. Choosing not to go on holiday with someone is extremely easy. No one is saying cut the mother off. It’s just saying don’t actively go on holiday with them! Same as not going on holiday with any number of other people in your life.

GroveInn · Today 09:18

QuietComet · Today 08:59

Weird that you're focusing on the croissant and ignoring the massive red flag which is the history of toxic behaviour and sibling nc with the mother ..

And what exactly do you mean by "the wheel turning full circle"? Are you suggesting the op was wrong to stand up to her mother for the first time and protect her daughter from toxic behaviour?

(As has been explained in the original post).

Really. It's. Not. About. The. Croissant.

The lack of emotional intelligence on this thread by some is astonishing. (Not you obviously)

redskyAtNigh · Today 09:28

SALaw · Today 09:15

It’s really not. Leaving a relationship is fraught with all sorts of complications. Choosing not to go on holiday with someone is extremely easy. No one is saying cut the mother off. It’s just saying don’t actively go on holiday with them! Same as not going on holiday with any number of other people in your life.

Choosing not to go on holiday with a toxic family member is not extremely easy. It involves saying "no" to them, which is something that (by definition) toxic family members are not very keen on and tend to react badly to.

Replace "mother" by "husband". If this was a friend of yours saying she didn't want to go on holiday with her husband but couldn't say "no" because he would kick off, would your response be as above? Or would you show a little bit of empathy to the situation.

HelenaWaiting · Today 09:37

graygoose · Today 01:34

Hi everyone, thanks for the comments and advice. I should have clarified, “croissant gate” was not the only incident (but lol at the name, I needed a good laugh!).

Too many incidents throughout my life to mention but to give one concrete recent example, the reason I’m a single mum is that ex-DH went out drinking constantly while I was pregnant, clubbing until 7am, rolling in wasted and pissing in our bedroom. He also visited sex workers and constructed an STD (real nice guy). Anyway, during a discussion that turned into an argument a few months ago where I tried to tell my mother that she isn’t always right, that I don’t feel safe around her and that she is overly critical of me, she told me I deserved the behaviour from ex DH and she didn’t blame him because I’m such a nightmare. I’m afraid I shit you not, these words were spoken to me and I lessened my contact greatly with her after that.

This holiday was an attempt to have nice family time with my parents and DD, who adores my dad especially. During the holiday my mother took every opportunity to criticise my parenting. When I would reply that I must have learned these behaviours from somewhere and cited specific examples, she accused me of false memories, something she has accused me as my brother of for years.

I did indeed leave the holiday and am glad I did so. As I walked out she screamed that I can dish it out but can’t take it (irony). That I am like her abusive older sister. That next time I should go on holiday with my partner and see how he likes putting up with me. And finally, as I walking out the door when 2 year old DD, she screamed “bitch bitch bitch” repeatedly until the door shut.

When I got home I called my brother who lives near me. He suffered a lot of physical abuse from her when he was a child, but I also get that it was the early 80s, my brother had undiagnosed ADHD and in those days it was a “spare the rod spoil the child” mentality. But we both agreed we are hyper critical of ourselves, anxious, easily manipulated and and bossed around and feel responsible for our mother’s emotions and deeply guilty at any action we feel she might disapprove of.

This is the context to my decision. I have been in therapy steadily since my marriage broke down with DD was 10 weeks old and this and becoming a mum has opened my eyes. My mother isn’t all bad, no one is. But I cannot tolerate this behaviour, allow it to be modelled in front of my daughter or allow the anxiety continue to overwhelm my nervous system. So I am deciding to step back.

Thanks all again, and for those who have had similar or worse situations, I hope you find or continue to find peace.

My eldest child was born in the eighties. I never hit him, nor any of my other children. Nor was I ever hit growing up. The truth is, whilst it may have been socially acceptable to physically chastise your offspring in the past, it has never been mandatory. Parents who hit, slap or beat their children have chosen to do so. There are no excuses for them. You can be strict without bullying your kids.

My sympathies to you and your brother. I think you have done the right thing. I hope the future brings you peace.

SALaw · Today 09:54

redskyAtNigh · Today 09:28

Choosing not to go on holiday with a toxic family member is not extremely easy. It involves saying "no" to them, which is something that (by definition) toxic family members are not very keen on and tend to react badly to.

Replace "mother" by "husband". If this was a friend of yours saying she didn't want to go on holiday with her husband but couldn't say "no" because he would kick off, would your response be as above? Or would you show a little bit of empathy to the situation.

you can’t just replace “mother” with “husband” in this scenario. She doesn’t live with her mother. She’s got a level of autonomy that a wife under the same roof as an abusive husband just doesn’t have. I know very well about toxic and abusive relationships and the difference between a spouse that is abusive and a parent to an adult child who lives elsewhere.

QuietComet · Today 09:59

SALaw · Today 09:54

you can’t just replace “mother” with “husband” in this scenario. She doesn’t live with her mother. She’s got a level of autonomy that a wife under the same roof as an abusive husband just doesn’t have. I know very well about toxic and abusive relationships and the difference between a spouse that is abusive and a parent to an adult child who lives elsewhere.

It's NOT easy to undo / split from 30-odd years of ingrained behaviours and habits, and the relationships involved. Stop trying to be so facile about it.

SandyHappyPerson · Today 10:01

graygoose · Today 02:18

I definitely get the sentiment and it’s the kind of thing I would say to someone else myself. But I hope you see from my posts above why a relationship of equals is literally impossible here. I have tried since I became a legal adult and 20 years later it’s probably become worse.

I consider myself a very accountable person, if there is any way I can blame myself I find it. But this also means I’m self aware (or try to be) and listen to other sides of the story and even criticisms of me. I’m a lawyer so critical thinking is a big component of my job. As I’ve matured I have found my mother’s irrationality increasingly frustrating and impossible to reconcile. And trust me, I have tried. But unless you agree completely with her, do not criticise her or hold it accountable and enable every thought and behaviour she has, she will blow up. To me that’s not a rational basis to establish a relationship of equals, because however much I may want that, she clearly does not.

I also would have considered staying and just enjoying it with DD, but you know what, you would never have enjoyed the rest of the holiday and DD is far too young to remember anyway.

You absolutely did the right thing by leaving, and if it was the catalyst to re-asses your whole relationship with your mum, and realise you needed to stop trying, than it was absolutely worth the bad experience.

I wish you luck OP, making the break is so hard when you have been conditioned from a young age, but you will soon realise the best thing you ever did was go on that holiday with them and then leave.

Ohnobackagain · Today 10:20

Blimey @graygoose I started reading thinking your Mum was going to say you were too lax or something and instead she’s accusing you of shaming your child? I don’t think you are being unreasonable. Sometimes you just get to a point where you see things as they are and you have to walk away. You are recognising an irreconcilable difference and you know you won’t agree on this and she probably won’t be able to rein in her words, so no point wasting time.

Ohnobackagain · Today 10:26

Just wanted to say @graygoose I have now read your other posts (doh - usually read them all first) but even without hearing the further background, I could tell that there was no future in attempting a relationship with your Mum. I hope you’re ok.

Credittocress · Today 10:41

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Yesterday 01:56

Was the croissant comment the only thing she's said/done?

Seems a bit of an overreaction on your part if it was.

I actually think the fact it is so small is hyper relevant. OPs mum is using any opportunity to put her down and make comments. Even something so small results in a dig at her parenting. It becomes death by a thousand cuts

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